Spin Off From Parents Thread

[sharlan]

why are you happy?
This is terrible news for children in daycare.
This means any family daycare provider can just invite whoever they want over and hang out... not everyone is as careful as we are.
This should be very sad news for you, Crystal

I don't necessarily see this as "terrible news". It is what it is and it isn't a regulation. It never was.

As providers we need to protect our children and our businesses. As parents, they need to know what is going on in their daycare.

As a parent, I didn't ask questions, I blindly accepted the fact that my children were well cared for. As a parent, it was my responsibility to see to it that my kids were safe. It was not the State's. My kids never complained, but I have enough horror stories that my kids endured that would turn all parents against home daycares. Everything from darts thrown at my youngest, the babysitter being arrested for shoplifting with my kids present, my kids locked outside in the front yard for hours on end.

[daycare]

Two wrongs don't make a right.

I hold you to a higher regard crystal. I really look up to you and guess I expect you to be above the nonsense.

I'm sure if one of your DCks said you **** to another and the recipient of the name calling punched the other kid in the face you would not be ok with it.

[Michelle]

This is not for anyone in particular...::

Something that I have believed, bragged about , even put on my website for 13 years .....that all adults must pass a criminal clearance is shattered!
This is very upsetting to me!

I think we all know of those unprofessional, lazy, woman who just turn on the TV, feed them junk food and lets anyone in her home( boy friend,friends, whoever!) ... then clear them out before parents come to make it look good for pickup time.

All they have to do if licensing comes is throw on a plumbers shirt dive under the sink and get away with it!

For all of us doing things the right way... we should be shocked, disappointed, and scared that one of these days, this lazy provider is going to be on the news ...first of all endangering children and also making us look unprofessional and unregulated!
Like I said before I was not gifted with ability to put into words what I am trying to say... but I love children and my job, and this scares me!

Parents sure have a false sense of security these days

[Willow]

we are just really good at what we do.. it's no hassle at all for me..

I seriously hope you didn't intend that as it's reading.......

[daycare]

I have a hard time relating to what your saying because I never thought we couldn't have people in the house as you did.

I don't ever have visitors and try my best to not schedule home maintance on weekdays.

I think that those who are bad people doing things like you suggested are doing more than just inviting friends over. Parents are the ones responsible for checking out the Daycre and making the decision of where they woul like their child to attend. Warranted the provider accept them.

I'm sorry your upset to find this out, not sure how it will change your program. Maybe just keep doing things the way you are doing them. It's your final decision who will or will not be around the kids.

[MyAngels]

I hold you to a higher regard crystal. I really look up to you and guess I expect you to be above the nonsense.

I'm sure if one of your DCks said you **** to another and the recipient of the name calling punched the other kid in the face you would not be ok with it.

I think she has remained well "above the nonsense."

I would not have been nearly as nice after some of the comments made.

[Willow]

I hold you to a higher regard crystal. I really look up to you and guess I expect you to be above the nonsense.

I'm sure if one of your DCks said you **** to another and the recipient of the name calling punched the other kid in the face you would not be ok with it.

Calling out the instigator by holding them responsible for the squabble and simply being ok with it are two completely different things.


There is nothing wrong with defending your integrity from nasty low blows.

[daycare]

I think she has remained well "above the nonsense."

I would not have been nearly as nice after some of the comments made.

Again two wrongs don't make a right. Don't attack me for trying to be a peace keeper.

[Willow]

I think she has remained well "above the nonsense."

I would not have been nearly as nice after some of the comments made.

Holy ditto......

[daycare]

Calling out the instigator by holding them responsible for the squabble and simply being ok with it are two completely different things.


There is nothing wrong with defending your integrity from nasty low blows.

So calling back with names is ok?

Really ladies. This is exactly why I left this thread a few months back. This is out right childish behavior. Maybe I made the mistake of coming back thinking things would be different.

It's totally unnecessary from both if them.

[Willow]

Again two wrongs don't make a right. Don't attack me for trying to be a peace keeper.

One wrong doesn't make a right either. And one person throwing multiple wrongs definitely warrants some "feedback"

(not attacking you at all dayare, just trying to help you understand why some of us are so gobsmacked over this thread).

[Blackcat31]

So calling back with names is ok?

Really ladies. This is exactly why I left this thread a few months back. This is out right childish behavior. Maybe I made the mistake of coming back thinking things would be different.

It's totally unnecessary from both if them.

When you have a group of people all together in one place, there will ALWAYS be drama and misunderstandings. That will NEVER change.

Especially when we only have written words to go by.

The most we can do is behave as adults and expect others to do so as well although some have more abilities than others.

While I do my best to remain "Sweden" (as Willow said ) I do have to agree with Crystal here. Michelle HAS been kind of offensive to her in this thread and quite honestly, Crystal has been rather reserved about it IMHO.

I also want to point out that MY personal perception of Michelle though is a kind, loving caring provider who really just wants to do what is best for her DCK's and is having some trouble saying that.

I think that maybe the best thing we can ALL do is just walk away and leave the thread alone. If it gets heated and either dog in the fight has an issue with the direction it goes or has gone, they can always PM one of us moderator's and we can lock/close the thread.

It doesn't solve anything/everything but it certainly helps let the flames die down.

[daycare]

One wrong doesn't make a right either. And one person throwing multiple wrongs definitely warrants some "feedback"

(not attacking you at all dayare, just trying to help you understand why some of us are so gobsmacked over this thread).

Well in text things don't always come across very clear.

Like many of you have said its a public form you can take from it what you want and leave alone what you don't.

Sorry but I stand firm on this. None of us would be ok with dck acting that way why should adults ?

[Willow]

So calling back with names is ok?

Really ladies. This is exactly why I left this thread a few months back. This is out right childish behavior. Maybe I made the mistake of coming back thinking things would be different.

It's totally unnecessary from both if them.

Who called any names back?

And who should be held responsible for dredging up a topic that was closed just to intentionally start the drama back up again?


Things will always get heated under those circumstances you know?

This was done and over, admin declared it done and over, and there was no respect for that. How could anyone expect it would have ended any differently than the first go round did?

[sharlan]

When you have a group of people all together in one place, there will ALWAYS be drama and misunderstandings. That will NEVER change.

Especially when we only have written words to go by.

The most we can do is behave as adults and expect others to do so as well although some have more abilities than others.

While I do my best to remain "Sweden" (as Willow said ) I do have to agree with Crystal here. Michelle HAS been kind of offensive to her in this thread and quite honestly, Crystal has been rather reserved about it IMHO.

I also want to point out that MY personal perception of Michelle though is a kind, loving caring provider who really just wants to do what is best for her DCK's and is having some trouble saying that.
I think that maybe the best thing we can ALL do is just walk away and leave the thread alone. If it gets heated and either dog in the fight has an issue with the direction it goes or has gone, they can always PM one of us moderator's and we can lock/close the thread.

It doesn't solve anything/everything but it certainly helps let the flames die down.

In defense of Michelle as a provider, she "is a kind, loving caring provider who really just wants to do what is best for her DCK's and is having some trouble saying that". I have personally met her and we enjoyed an outing at the LA County Fair last year with all of our daycare kids and dh's.