Spin Off From Parents Thread

[daycare]

My kitchen trash has to have a lid, my bathrooms don't.

Lol what??????????? Oh wow I have a headache now...

[RosieMommy]

As a parent, I absolutely do not agree with a provider transporting a child they had no permission to transport. Period. Our provider does transport and I'm fine with it as long as I know she's doing it. They do field trips etc and she always lets the parents know what is going on and what day. But of course always read the contract and if there's something in there you don't like, talk about it and modify if possible.

[sharlan]

Lol what??????????? Oh wow I have a headache now...

Don't we all when it comes to DSS-CCL?

[Crystal]

Actually yes!
We are not allowed to have all the baby equipment that most states are allowed. Taking care of babies is a little harder for us because we don't have the luxury of putting baby in a bouncy seat or stationary activity (walker) for just a minute to take someone to the bathroom, or make lunch, we can't have them safely in the crib in the living room playing with toys when the toddlers are being extra energetic ( to protect them... not leave them there all day) In a lot of ways, our regs. are more strict than most states and when we pass every surprise inspection, then we are doing a great job!
So, yes I would rather follow the rules to the letter than to say to a licenser..." well Bubba is here to fix my sink because Nan's toilet exploded everywhere and she did it! "or Crystal says I can have an array of people here around these kids because she said "as long as it is for a good reason" Nope, not going to happen! I would not do that to these kids, my own daughter, or my business!

I don't know what your problem is, but you really need to quit being insulting. No one has insulted you, yet you have done so to others several times.

I DO know what I am talking about, and I follow the regs very closely. I certainly would not say it is okay to allow repair persons in if it was against the regulations.

I think you have misunderstood the regulation that anyone RESIDING in your home who is over the age of 18 must be fingerprinted or anyone WORKING IN THE DAYCARE as an EMPLOYEE working WITH the children over the age of 18 must be fingerprinted with what is required/not required with repair persons or volunteers.

It is GREAT that you CHOOSE not to allow it, and is certainly your perogative, but, just like with your orignal post in this thread being insulting to providers who CHOOSE not to transport, your insinuation that those of who allow repair persons in during hours are putting children at risk is JUST as insulting.

And, on another note, I find it interesting that you won't allow strangers around the kids in your home, but have absolutley no problem doing so on a regular basis in public spaces. :confused:

[Willow]

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[Blackcat31]

And, on another note, I find it interesting that you won't allow strangers around the kids in your home, but have absolutley no problem doing so on a regular basis in public spaces. :confused:

I noticed this discrepancy as well.

You (OP) have stated several time sin this thread that you go ABOVE and BEYOND to secure the safety of your DCK's and wouldn't do anything that would risk or jeopardize their safety but yet you are willing to take them on field trips and outings off site.

I keep mine ON-SITE for that very reason.

.....to NOT add additional liability, to NOT expose them to ANYONE other than myself, other DCP's and licensing and food program staff.

I am so freaked out about making sure that I do my absolute best to keep these kiddos safe that I am NOT willing to do ANY sort of off site activity.

Parents can do those thing when THEY are the ones responsible for their own child.

(fwiw I am NOT dissing anyone who does off site field trips. I just choose NOT to based on my own personal feelings.)

[Crystal]

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[daycare]

Lmao hahahahha. I had to read that many times understand it. you ladies are funny

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Guess I need to go back and read this whole thread. Missed my weekend reading since the weather was nice and yesterday too, but it must be a good one to get this

[EntropyControlSpecialist]

My head is spinning from all the mess about the California regulations. Holy cow.

I hope California is able to have the same regulations in every county soon. That is just too much!

[Crystal]

they said that the parents can be there to pick up and drop off only.

I know and the next question would be "what about the park? " do they have to be fingerprinted too?" the answer is.. the facility is licensed... not the person..so if you take the kids somewhere they must be safe, fed and secure but licensing does not get into anything more than what is going on at your home or if something happens outside your home..

Hmmmm.....in the regs and on the notification of parents' rights sheet (lic 995A) it says that parents have the right to "enter and inspect the family child care home without advance notice whenever children are in care". So, would that mean they need a background check to do so?

[Crystal]

Absolutely not true and very dangerous information..
I would never allow a repairman in my home with the kids present!
I will call licensing tomorrow, but I have been told many times by licensing it's against regulations.

So, what did licensing say when you called?

[Crystal]

I noticed this discrepancy as well.

You (OP) have stated several time sin this thread that you go ABOVE and BEYOND to secure the safety of your DCK's and wouldn't do anything that would risk or jeopardize their safety but yet you are willing to take them on field trips and outings off site.

I keep mine ON-SITE for that very reason.

.....to NOT add additional liability, to NOT expose them to ANYONE other than myself, other DCP's and licensing and food program staff.

I am so freaked out about making sure that I do my absolute best to keep these kiddos safe that I am NOT willing to do ANY sort of off site activity.

Parents can do those thing when THEY are the ones responsible for their own child.

(fwiw I am NOT dissing anyone who does off site field trips. I just choose NOT to based on my own personal feelings.)

Exactly my point. I can think of NUMEROUS issues that could arise taking kids off property. Even with three adults there are MANY, MANY things that could happen. Far more dangerous than staying home and having someone fix a toilet, IMO.

Now, I am not saying providers shouldn't do trips and shouldn't take the risk.....there are plenty who do and it has never been, and most likely never will be a problem. BUT, it IS more of a risk than staying on property.

Shoot, we went on a trip to the pumpkin patch with our families a few years ago, had three providers and 6 parents there and STILL one Mom "lost" her kid. Fortunately I had all of the kids wear orange that day so a quick glance to the FAR END of the pumpkin patch on a playground we spotted him. Glad I wasn't the one responsible for him ::

[sharlan]

Exactly my point. I can think of NUMEROUS issues that could arise taking kids off property. Even with three adults there are MANY, MANY things that could happen. Far more dangerous than staying home and having someone fix a toilet, IMO.

Now, I am not saying providers shouldn't do trips and shouldn't take the risk.....there are plenty who do and it has never been, and most likely never will be a problem. BUT, it IS more of a risk than staying on property.

Shoot, we went on a trip to the pumpkin patch with our families a few years ago, had three providers and 6 parents there and STILL one Mom "lost" her kid. Fortunately I had all of the kids wear orange that day so a quick glance to the FAR END of the pumpkin patch on a playground we spotted him. Glad I wasn't the one responsible for him ::

My kids wear "safety green" and so do the adults.

[Crystal]

My kids wear "safety green" and so do the adults.

Yeah....I always have the group where a specific color when we have outings. One, it is obvious to others they are part of the group and Two, we can spot them more easily if they do happen to wander away. I would love to do regular outings with the kids, but with 14 children, it is just too much hassle and liability. So, we plan trips with the families so that they are responsible for thier own children.