Nap Time 'Poopers'

[Laurel]

I think I'm right and everyone who disagrees with me is wrong. Anyone who disagrees with me isn't a good provider. Everyone who agrees with me is a great provider. Any questions?

Laurel

[Familycare71]

I think I'm right and everyone who disagrees with me is wrong. Anyone who disagrees with me isn't a good provider. Everyone who agrees with me is a great provider. Any questions?

Laurel

:: :hug:

[Familycare71]

I find this statement ridiculous. It is quite common for me to have only one sleeping baby at a time. Right now I have a two year old that is often the only napper, naps quite well for two hours almost on the dot, and often wakes up stinky. There is no way he could either "sleep through a diaper change, or put himself back to sleep." He just is not that kind of kid.

So my 3000 sq foot house is not big enough for this one little guy??? Seriously?
And just for the record, he has been here since he was 5 months old and has NEVER had a rash of any kind, nor any urinary issues.

[nannyde]

Normally I agree with you in most every situation. We rent an entire home for our daycare that has three large rooms, one small room and a bathroom. We have more than enough space.

However, I would still maintain that their crying would wake up the other children, as they are startled, being woken and changed. We do white notice, etc. but the kids do wake up of another child is upset and screaming. Obviously once they are out of the room where they are sleeping, they would be far enough to not wake the other children. But the process of waking and changing their diaper would wake the other kids.

What is the problem with ALL of the kids waking up and staying awake for the entire nap time? So they are tired for ONE day because one of their mates needed a two minute diaper change.

What difference does it make? I seriously don't get it...



What is the problem with them all waking up and not going back to sleep?

If a two minute diaper change is enough for them to go from a dead sleep to wide awake for the rest of nap time then they can't be that tired in the first place.

Why can't they ALL just be awake for the rest of nap?

The provider who doesn't want them awake has a reason for not wanting them to be awake for the rest of nap.

[blandino]

I want them to get a restful, full, nap, that is all the sleep they need. I don't want them to be cranky and grumpy and stressed. I want them to be well rested.

Waking them before they are ready isn't going to insure that they are well-rested. And while in theory they can put themselves back to sleep, not all of mine do that well once they are woken up too soon.

My "reason" is for their emotional well being.

I understand we are seeing this from two very different viewpoints. But I truly, earnestly, value the emotional stability and well-being that comes from getting all the nap they need, over them sitting in a poopy diaper while they sleep. If they wake from the poopy diaper, them by all means I would change them immediately, but if they are comfortable enough to sleep right through it, then I want them to get all the sleep they need. I have infants up all throughout my older kids nap time. So it really doesn't inconvenience me if they are awake. I want them to be well-rested for their own health and happiness.

[Familycare71]

I want them to get a restful, full, nap, that is all the sleep they need. I don't want them to be cranky and grumpy and stressed. I want them to be well rested.

Waking them before they are ready isn't going to insure that they are well-rested. And while in theory they can put themselves back to sleep, not all of mine do that well once they are woken up too soon.

My "reason" is for their emotional well being.

I understand we are seeing this from two very different viewpoints. But I truly, earnestly, value the emotional stability and well-being that comes from getting all the nap they need, over them sitting in a poopy diaper while they sleep. If they wake from the poopy diaper, them by all means I would change them immediately, but if they are comfortable enough to sleep right through it, then I want them to get all the sleep they need. I have infants up all throughout my older kids nap time. So it really doesn't inconvenience me if they are awake. I want them to be well-rested for their own health and happiness.

[dbslas]

I want them to get a restful, full, nap, that is all the sleep they need. I don't want them to be cranky and grumpy and stressed. I want them to be well rested.

Waking them before they are ready isn't going to insure that they are well-rested. And while in theory they can put themselves back to sleep, not all of mine do that well once they are woken up too soon.

My "reason" is for their emotional well being.

I understand we are seeing this from two very different viewpoints. But I truly, earnestly, value the emotional stability and well-being that comes from getting all the nap they need, over them sitting in a poopy diaper while they sleep. If they wake from the poopy diaper, them by all means I would change them immediately, but if they are comfortable enough to sleep right through it, then I want them to get all the sleep they need. I have infants up all throughout my older kids nap time. So it really doesn't inconvenience me if they are awake. I want them to be well-rested for their own health and happiness.

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[Meyou]

I want all my children to have long, restful naps too but not at the expense of a child having to sleep with feces on them or other children having to sleep (or rest) within nose range of the smell.

I just don't understand how it's even an option to leave a human being lying in their own waste. As a Mom if I checked on one of my kids and I smelled poop I would change them right away, day or night. My daycare children are no different.

[Brooksie]

I want them to get a restful, full, nap, that is all the sleep they need. I don't want them to be cranky and grumpy and stressed. I want them to be well rested.

Waking them before they are ready isn't going to insure that they are well-rested. And while in theory they can put themselves back to sleep, not all of mine do that well once they are woken up too soon.

My "reason" is for their emotional well being.

I understand we are seeing this from two very different viewpoints. But I truly, earnestly, value the emotional stability and well-being that comes from getting all the nap they need, over them sitting in a poopy diaper while they sleep. If they wake from the poopy diaper, them by all means I would change them immediately, but if they are comfortable enough to sleep right through it, then I want them to get all the sleep they need. I have infants up all throughout my older kids nap time. So it really doesn't inconvenience me if they are awake. I want them to be well-rested for their own health and happiness.

[Laurel]

I want them to get a restful, full, nap, that is all the sleep they need. I don't want them to be cranky and grumpy and stressed. I want them to be well rested.

Waking them before they are ready isn't going to insure that they are well-rested. And while in theory they can put themselves back to sleep, not all of mine do that well once they are woken up too soon.

My "reason" is for their emotional well being.

I understand we are seeing this from two very different viewpoints. But I truly, earnestly, value the emotional stability and well-being that comes from getting all the nap they need, over them sitting in a poopy diaper while they sleep. If they wake from the poopy diaper, them by all means I would change them immediately, but if they are comfortable enough to sleep right through it, then I want them to get all the sleep they need. I have infants up all throughout my older kids nap time. So it really doesn't inconvenience me if they are awake. I want them to be well-rested for their own health and happiness.

Laurel

[nannyde]

I want all my children to have long, restful naps too but not at the expense of a child having to sleep with feces on them or other children having to sleep (or rest) within nose range of the smell.

I just don't understand how it's even an option to leave a human being lying in their own waste. As a Mom if I checked on one of my kids and I smelled poop I would change them right away, day or night. My daycare children are no different.

I don't understand either. I pray that if I should ever be in an old age home and I need someone to change me after I soil myself that they don't say words to themselves like "I don't want to wake her roomate" and leave me for hours.

I'm not buying the "it's best for the babies" argument. Not changing a kid out of a soiled diaper is best for the adult whether it's a parent doing it or a provider doing it.

Until we get to the TRUTH of why it is best for the provider it can't be fixed for the future and others can't learn from it.

[Brooksie]

Even in quality nursing homes they don't wake a patient from a nap to change a soiled diaper.. Just saying. Trust me. I have a friend who is a CNA for the most highly recommended and rated Nursing Home on the shore.

[Familycare71]

Even in quality nursing homes they don't wake a patient from a nap to change a soiled diaper.. Just saying. Trust me. I have a friend who is a CNA for the most highly recommended and rated Nursing Home on the shore.

[Blackcat31]

Even in quality nursing homes they don't wake a patient from a nap to change a soiled diaper.. Just saying. Trust me. I have a friend who is a CNA for the most highly recommended and rated Nursing Home on the shore.

I'm NOT getting into the debate about whether to wake a sleeping child if they soil their diapers....as my opinion has no bearing on what each providers state rules and/or regs say but I 100% disagree with the above statement.

Your CNA friend might work in a highly recommended facility but any facility that believes that leaving a human being in soiled diapers is okay, is NOT a facility I would ever place my loved ones in.

My daughter is a RN specializing in geriatric care and is also pursing her nursing home director's credentials and one of the very first things they are taught is a human beings right to be clean.

ALL soiled diapers are changed IMMEDIATELY regardless of what activity or non-activity (sleeping) the patient is doing.

They would NEVER leave them in a soiled diaper.

I also understand everyone trying to prove their point but let's not start painting everyone with the same brush.

My suggestion is for providers to ask the parents....if the parent gives you written permission to leave their child in a soiled diaper so they can nap, then so be it. If your state rules/regs dictate to you when a child must be changed, then you also have your answer.

It is so simple....just ASK. Ask the parent which do they value more; the sleep their child gets/needs or their need to have a fresh clean diaper immediately after soiling.

There really is no need to argue with others about what they do. Do what YOUR state and clients require you to do.

[Brooksie]

I'm NOT getting into the debate about whether to wake a sleeping child if they soil their diapers....as my opinion has no bearing on what each providers state rules and/or regs say but I 100% disagree with the above statement.

Your CNA friend might work in a highly recommended facility but any facility that believes that leaving a human being in soiled diapers is okay is NOT a facility I would ever place my loved ones.

My daughter is a RN specializing in geriatric care and is also pursing her nursing home director's credentials and one of the very first things they are taught is a human beings right to be clean.

ALL soiled diapers are changed IMMEDIATELY regardless of what activity or non-activity (sleeping) the patient is doing.

They would NEVER leave them in a soiled diaper.

I also know an RN who works there, and my grandmother was there for a short period. It is an amazing facility. They give the utmost care and respect to the patients there. The thing they face that we don't always face is the patients being able to communicate with them. If a patient is napping there generally request to be left alone during that time. They want there sleep, and know they will be changed after they wake up. Night time rounds are completely different. But a short nap is generally treated as such. A short period of time. And they know they will be cleaned as soon as they wake up.