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  • nannyde
    All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
    • Mar 2010
    • 7320

    #31
    Originally posted by blandino
    I don't do it out of laziness. I hardly have all my infants asleep at nap time, so I don't get to have a rest that often. I think you can also consider other needs of the child, and that being woken from a dead sleep, most of whom would have trouble going back to sleep (at least mine would) and would probably wake the other children too because they are fussy and crying, so now everyone is short on sleep, which is equally unhealthy/undesirable as sitting in a poopy diaper.

    I don't wake to change diapers, and I deal with very few diaper rashes. I apply a barrier cream at the diaper change that proceeds nap, and everyone comes out fine.

    I have in the past had children who consistently have a BM while napping. I don't think it would have been fair to wake him and cut the sleep he needs short, to change him. I think his mother would be more upset at him being sleep deprived than sitting in a soiled diaper.
    I would never allow a kid to have poop on their butt when I know I can change them. The only time a kid is sitting in poop at my house is when we are changing someone else's rear end and we literally can't do them both at the same time.

    I don't care if I wake the dead doing it. I don't care if the parents are upset if their kid wakes up early and is tired.

    To me this is another space issue I see so much. When providers make decisions to with hold BASIC care... not advanced or special care... but BASIC care it almost always comes down to space. If you don't have space to seperate kids at nap who are so easily awakened that they would stay awake crying thru the rest of nap and their crying would affect your break...then you just don't have enough space to have the kids in the first place.
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    • nannyde
      All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
      • Mar 2010
      • 7320

      #32
      Originally posted by Familycare71
      Can you imagine!?! :: wake up- wake up... Did you poop?? No- oh ok go back to sleep! X12!?
      Rediculous. Nobody is saying to wake kids to check. We are talking about when the providers KNOW a kid is poopy.
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      • Familycare71
        Daycare.com Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 1716

        #33
        Originally posted by nannyde
        Rediculous. Nobody is saying to wake kids to check. We are talking about when the providers KNOW a kid is poopy.
        I didn't mean that- sorry... I meant in a room of 12 kids trying to figure out who pooped!

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        • Blackcat31
          • Oct 2010
          • 36124

          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered
          Never! That's not being neglectful either.It's dark in the nap room and there are 12 children sleeping.I'm not going to go around waking everyone up ,checking diapers to see who pooped.
          I've done daycare for 25 years and never had any child get a diaper rash.
          Do you think parents go into their kids room every couple hours all night long,checking for poopy diapers? No,they let them sleep and change them in the morning!
          What parents do (or don't do) with their own children has NO bearing on what a provider should/shouldn't do.

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          • Familycare71
            Daycare.com Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 1716

            #35
            Originally posted by nannyde
            I would never allow a kid to have poop on their butt when I know I can change them. The only time a kid is sitting in poop at my house is when we are changing someone else's rear end and we literally can't do them both at the same time.

            I don't care if I wake the dead doing it. I don't care if the parents are upset if their kid wakes up early and is tired.

            To me this is another space issue I see so much. When providers make decisions to with hold BASIC care... not advanced or special care... but BASIC care it almost always comes down to space. If you don't have space to seperate kids at nap who are so easily awakened that they would stay awake crying thru the rest of nap and their crying would affect your break...then you just don't have enough space to have the kids in the first place.
            Really!? So your saying because I have all my kids in the same room for nap I shouldn't be providing care???:confused:
            I don't have assistance, I CHOOSE to have kids nap in one room because I keep a small group (so I can provide quality care) and I CHOOSE to not wake a kid up who pooped- I don't want them cranky, the kids I care for generally wouldn't go back to sleep and would most likely fuss and wake up the others.
            I don't wake kids up- period. I don't think that makes me a bad or neglectful provider.

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            • Unregistered

              #36
              Get over it! Some people wake kids up,some let them sleep!It doesn't make one a better provider than another. It is not neglect or refusing basic care. They are sleeping,they will be fine!

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              • Crystal
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 4002

                #37
                Originally posted by Familycare71
                First time I've gotten such an angry reply on here! Bound to happen I suppose . I will respect that you disagree with me...
                I will also say I don't appreciate your tone or that you are saying I am not a quality provider or don't have my dck best interests at heart! Someone already responded what I would have so ill save it BUT in the future be a big girl and use kind words with me- thanks!
                It's not an agry reply, it's an honest reply. I don't care if you like my tone or not. It IS neglectful to knowlingly leave a child in a crap filled diaper. It is a health hazard. Leaving a child in a crap filled diaper does indicate that you do not have their best interests at heart.....it can cause diaper rash, they might put their hands in it at some point and then put it in their mouth, they might smear it on the wall, posing a risk to other children......nevermind that no one should be subjected to having to smell it throughout the duration just because you don't want to wake a sleeping child. Nevermind the fact that children don't crap themselves ASLEEP, they do it BEFORE they fall asleep and are then left to lay in it. If they are recieving adequate supervision you will notice they are doing it BEFORE they fall asleep and can change them without the concern of waking them.

                Be a big girl ::Hahahaha....now that's a first. Perhaps you should heed your own advice. ::

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                • Crystal
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 4002

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Familycare71
                  Can you imagine!?! :: wake up- wake up... Did you poop?? No- oh ok go back to sleep! X12!?
                  hmmmm......I don't ask infants and toddlers if they pooped, I look in their diaper. Pretty easy to do, without waking anyone.

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                  • nannyde
                    All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 7320

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Familycare71
                    I didn't mean that- sorry... I meant in a room of 12 kids trying to figure out who pooped!
                    Then yes you do check them until you figure out who is dirty. I even check them after I have figured it out to make sure there aren't more than one.

                    I check the kids every ten minutes during nap if I have a baby under one. They are used to me coming in and out. I could vacuum by their heads and they would sleep thru it. I don't care ifbthey wake up during nap. Once they realize that they arent getting up during nap they sleep thru whatever goes on around them. Changing diapers doesn't wake them up.
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                    • nannyde
                      All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 7320

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered
                      Get over it! Some people wake kids up,some let them sleep!It doesn't make one a better provider than another. It is not neglect or refusing basic care. They are sleeping,they will be fine!
                      Yes it does make them a BETTER provider. It's BASIC minimum standard care.
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                      • nannyde
                        All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 7320

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Familycare71
                        Really!? So your saying because I have all my kids in the same room for nap I shouldn't be providing care???:confused:
                        I don't have assistance, I CHOOSE to have kids nap in one room because I keep a small group (so I can provide quality care) and I CHOOSE to not wake a kid up who pooped- I don't want them cranky, the kids I care for generally wouldn't go back to sleep and would most likely fuss and wake up the others.
                        I don't wake kids up- period. I don't think that makes me a bad or neglectful provider.
                        If thwy can't sleep thru a diaper change or get themselves back to sleep after they have awakened then YES you don't have enough space.
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                        • Crystal
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 4002

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered
                          Get over it! Some people wake kids up,some let them sleep!It doesn't make one a better provider than another. It is not neglect or refusing basic care. They are sleeping,they will be fine!
                          Nah....not gonna get over it. It is disgusting. It is neglectful.

                          I suggest everyone of you ask yourselves how you would feel if it were YOUR child who was being left in a crap filled diaper for a couple of hours because your provider was more concerned about her break than about your child's right to recieve basic care. Bet you wouldn't like it one bit. Not to mention, how many times have I read on this forum, providers complaining that parents are to lazy to change the child's diaper and they show up with a crap filled diaper. Double standards, as usual.

                          CRAP like this makes me embarrassed to be a provider some times, honestly, I would HATE for parents to associate me and my practices with the way others practice care. And, if that makes you think I am saying I am better than some, then so be it.

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                          • nannyde
                            All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 7320

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Crystal
                            It's not an agry reply, it's an honest reply. I don't care if you like my tone or not. It IS neglectful to knowlingly leave a child in a crap filled diaper. It is a health hazard. Leaving a child in a crap filled diaper does indicate that you do not have their best interests at heart.....it can cause diaper rash, they might put their hands in it at some point and then put it in their mouth, they might smear it on the wall, posing a risk to other children......nevermind that no one should be subjected to having to smell it throughout the duration just because you don't want to wake a sleeping child. Nevermind the fact that children don't crap themselves ASLEEP, they do it BEFORE they fall asleep and are then left to lay in it. If they are recieving adequate supervision you will notice they are doing it BEFORE they fall asleep and can change them without the concern of waking them.

                            Be a big girl ::Hahahaha....now that's a first. Perhaps you should heed your own advice. ::
                            Another big reason is there is another entryway of bacteria into the childs body in the diapered poopy area. You don't leave kids sitting in poop when you know with every minute they are sitting or laying in it it can get into their urethra or vagina. Exposure for hours increases the liklihood of ecoli and other bacteria entering the bloodstream dramatically.

                            We are taught to wipe front to back for a reason.

                            This is the kind of fundamental care decisions that show a complete lack of basic health and safety training.
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                            • Unregistered

                              #44
                              Yes,do get over it. You're attitude and bullying ways make me embarrassed to be a provider! You my dear are a bully, with an attitude problem.Every one of your responses to people's post are full of judgement and just an overall "I'm better then everyone else"
                              Change your crappy kids! You are the BEST provider out there!

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                              • nannyde
                                All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 7320

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Crystal
                                Nah....not gonna get over it. It is disgusting. It is neglectful.

                                I suggest everyone of you ask yourselves how you would feel if it were YOUR child who was being left in a crap filled diaper for a couple of hours because your provider was more concerned about her break than about your child's right to recieve basic care. Bet you wouldn't like it one bit. Not to mention, how many times have I read on this forum, providers complaining that parents are to lazy to change the child's diaper and they show up with a crap filled diaper. Double standards, as usual.

                                CRAP like this makes me embarrassed to be a provider some times, honestly, I would HATE for parents to associate me and my practices with the way others practice care. And, if that makes you think I am saying I am better than some, then so be it.
                                How would YOU like to lay in poop for two hours?

                                Rediculous. This is BASIC common sense and BASIC minimum standard care. I promise you there isn't a public health or department of children and family service that would ever condone a child being in a poopy diaper for any time for any reason. As soon as they poop it needs to be changed. Right then. Unless you are in a fire or some emergency where the lives are at risk... the kids need to be changed asap.
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