Spin Off From Parents Thread

[daycare]

Who called any names back?

And who should be held responsible for dredging up a topic that was closed just to intentionally start the drama back up again?


Things will always get heated under those circumstances you know?

This was done and over, admin declared it done and over, and there was no respect for that. How could anyone expect it would have ended any differently than the first go round did?

Coming from a mind of peace. I guess it was wishful thinking

Can't help it I want everyone To get along and be kind to one another. This form is supposed to offer advice, support and understanding. Again maybe I'm in Lala land of wishful thinking

We all know crystal is a strong like a bull. She's very smart and educated in this field she's strong with her words which makes her an easy target. I do she gets picked on but she could just laugh it off. I know she can.

[Michelle]

Who called any names back?

And who should be held responsible for dredging up a topic that was closed just to intentionally start the drama back up again?


Things will always get heated under those circumstances you know?

This was done and over, admin declared it done and over, and there was no respect for that. How could anyone expect it would have ended any differently than the first go round did?

I do not know who called anyone a name!

Imagine... all the work, safeguarding, worrying , arguments with appt. centers, arguing with relatives because they were not fingerprinted... paying double the charge for night repairs for 13 years because I was lied to or "misinformed" by licensing!
I just found this out today, so please stop saying I am causing problems! this is what I firmly believed and I am pretty upset! I am not against anyone here on this forum but I am close to leaving because I feel attacked!

[MyAngels]

Who called any names back?

And who should be held responsible for dredging up a topic that was closed just to intentionally start the drama back up again?


Things will always get heated under those circumstances you know?

This was done and over, admin declared it done and over, and there was no respect for that. How could anyone expect it would have ended any differently than the first go round did?

Coming from a mind of peace. I guess it was wishful thinking

Can't help it I want everyone To get along and be kind to one another. This form is supposed to offer advice, support and understanding. Again maybe I'm in Lala land of wishful thinking

We all know crystal is a strong like a bull. She's very smart and educated in this field she's strong with her words which makes her an easy target. I do she gets picked on but she could just laugh it off. I know she can.

I don't think anyone should have to "laugh it off" when their integrity is called into question, no matter how "smart and educated" they may be.

I have never met Michelle and I believe she is a wonderful provider, but really, she should have taken a step back from the discussion and rethought or rephrased before she continued to take aim at another member.

[kathiemarie]

I'm in California and I was told by licensing that's as long as the "other" person, repairman, homeschool teacher, etc aren't having direct interaction with the children that its ok. Not sure what the argument here is but as matter of fact I just called licensing last week asking about my daughters homeschool teacher. Her teacher has always come after hours but next school year she will be available only during the day, because I didn't want anyone else I called licensing to make sure if it was ok for the teacher to be here during business hours. I spoke to my licensor and said "as long as she does not have direct contact with the children, then it's ok"

This is what I was told also by my licensor. I'm in Ventura County.

[daycare]

I don't think anyone should have to "laugh it off" when their integrity is called into question, no matter how "smart and educated" they may be.

I have never met Michelle and I believe she is a wonderful provider, but really, she should have taken a step back from the discussion and rethought or rephrased before she continued to take aim at another member.

Well my friend you and I an agree to disagree

[daycare]

I do not know who called anyone a name!

Imagine... all the work, safeguarding, worrying , arguments with appt. centers, arguing with relatives because they were not fingerprinted... paying double the charge for night repairs for 13 years because I was lied to or "misinformed" by licensing!
I just found this out today, so please stop saying I am causing problems! this is what I firmly believed and I am pretty upset! I am not against anyone here on this forum but I am close to leaving because I feel attacked!

Ugh. Now I get it..... I could see how that would be hard to have to hear after all the hard work you have done for years trying to follow that rule.

Must have been a pain to schedule appointments. And I'm sure you have up many weekends stating home to hold maintance appointments.

I still try not to have maintance workers come in on weekdays unless I really really have to.

Sorry.....

[Michelle]

When I told my daughter about this... she told me that the reason why she moved out at 19 was because of this regulation... I couldn't have everyone of her friends fingerprinted and she was tired of me turning them away at the door the minute they turned 18!
I lost my daughter because of this!
I asked the rep today if my teen daughter could have an 18 year old friend over and she said yes, as long as they were not near the kids!

When I asked this a couple years ago, they said "NO"
I am so upset, I can't stop crying.

[daycare]

When I told my daughter about this... she told me that the reason why she moved out at 19 was because of this regulation... I couldn't have everyone of her friends fingerprinted and she was tired of me turning them away at the door the minute they turned 18!
I lost my daughter because of this!
I asked the rep today if my teen daughter could have an 18 year old friend over and she said yes, as long as they were not near the kids!

When I asked this a couple years ago, they said "NO"
I am so upset, I can't stop crying.

Wow I could see how this is so upsetting to you.
Wish I could find the right words to make you feel better about it. That really stinks that you were lead to believe that for so long.

CA regs need to improve.

Last year I was told by one analyst that my daughter could have friends over (age 11-13) as long as they could walk home if lic came. But then talking to someone else, I was old no.

I came to this form and was told something different so I called Lic again and was old something completely different. They said after age 10 they don't even account for in my license. Ugh.......

So sorry sweetie. Big hugs.

But you still have to I to time out for misbehaving. Lol.

[Willow]

I do not know who called anyone a name!

Imagine... all the work, safeguarding, worrying , arguments with appt. centers, arguing with relatives because they were not fingerprinted... paying double the charge for night repairs for 13 years because I was lied to or "misinformed" by licensing!
I just found this out today, so please stop saying I am causing problems! this is what I firmly believed and I am pretty upset! I am not against anyone here on this forum but I am close to leaving because I feel attacked!

Well, do what you need to do, but consider that you started the thread and then proceeded to offend many here with zero acknowledgement of that.

When you were told you were coming off the way you were, instead of taking a step back you drilled in more digs implying that you're better than others because you go and do all sorts of things and are more capable of keeping children safe than others - on the flip side of that then saying that anyone that brings in a reputable repairman is endangering the kids in their care.

Whether all that was intentional or not is debatable but that's how it came off.

Everyone who does things differently is boring and/or negligent and you're just awesome


(Not saying you're not awesome, because from what I've read you do just fine for yourself, but there's never just one right way of doing things when it comes to childcare.)

[Michelle]

When people are talking about their lives, childcare...we all use the words "I do it this way" or I do it that way!"
tone of voice is hard to tell on this forum..
people who know me in person, know that I am a very helpful, huggy person that wants to "save the world" and "save every child"

sorry if anyone took my tone wrong.
Thank you Daycare...
I can tell that you are a very loving person!
:hug:

[Willow]

Guarantee the entire tone of the thread will change after that Michelle.

Can't speak for anyone else but that clarified things for me anyway.

[daycare]

I'm not known to be very huggy, but I'm super sappy and cheesy with words. Lol

Well. I grew up in pure violence and mass judgement. So I strive to always want to find peace.... My husband says more like find the lost pieces of my mind:::: Lol

[Crystal]

I seriously hope you didn't intend that as it's reading.......

I'm pretty sure she did

[Crystal]

So calling back with names is ok?

Really ladies. This is exactly why I left this thread a few months back. This is out right childish behavior. Maybe I made the mistake of coming back thinking things would be different.

It's totally unnecessary from both if them.

With all due respect Daycare, I did not call anyone names. I did say that she "seems to have a superiority complex", and if that is what you are referring to, then I own it, AND I meant it.

Additionally, it has been implied that I am a liar or misinformed, that I must not be capable of handling 14 children on field trips because I choose to not take that liability, that I and every other provider who doesn't give kids special moments by taking them on frequent field trips ****, etc. etc. etc. I thought I was handling my responses well, but I guess you disagree.

Immediatley following Michelle's post about her call to licensing I said 2 words "Thank You" only to get "talked down to" yet again. THAT was unwarranted, and YES, it made me mad. I do not take my job lightly, I work VERY hard and have for the past 16 years to offer a high quality program. If someone wants to intentionally insult and offend me, implying that because they do things differently then I ****, then they ARE going to to be told how I feel.

I doubt that you would appreciate or allow someone to insult your professionalism and integrity without defending yourself....why should I?

[Crystal]

Willow, Blackcat and MyAngels, Thank you