Am I Morally Or Legally Obligated?

[MyAngels]

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The weather is FAB-U-LOUS!!! Sunny and warm

I'm always so jealous, jealous, jealous when you Cali gals talk about your weather . I'm a sun worshiper at heart.

It's not bad here in lovely central Illinois - sunny, about 50 degrees.

[My3cents]

Interesting, I wonder if this is regional as well. Out of the 6 families I have, only 1 of them could so easily live off of one income that it's disturbing to me that they both work. Well, two, but the second one it is the mom that is the bread winner. The rest are barely scraping by on 2 incomes.

Anyone can down size and live off nothing, it is all the "stuff" that we feel we "need" to have or be left behind of the norm. It is a priority thing, What is important to people? We have learned to "need" stuff but anyway I won't go here.......I am just as guilty as the next person if that is even what you want to call it.

[Crystal]

I'm always so jealous, jealous, jealous when you Cali gals talk about your weather . I'm a sun worshiper at heart.

It's not bad here in lovely central Illinois - sunny, about 50 degrees.

Will probably get to 70-72 here today. Good day for it too, we got our new fence up yesterday so we are starting our outdoor classroom renovations today! I am SOOOOO excited!!!!

[My3cents]

Frogs, if you like I can pull a quote from you on the naked chick breast feeding thread.

I'm going to paraphrase. "I'm not doing it for attention. I'm being a good Mom." That's obviously not exactly what was said but i'm on my phone and i'm not going to go pull it off of the other thread.

Can you see how that implies that if you don't breast feed, you are not a good Mom? Coupling that with you basically saying that formula is crap and now YOU seem like the narrow minded one.

I love debates. I don't love when people can't open their minds enough to understand another opinion.

I feel breast feeding is best for baby, but .......... nothing wrong with formula either. I have done both. What I don't like about BF is that if you join a BF Group in real life or even online, they are very strong on BF being the one and only way. My suggestion is to do what is right for you and your baby and you have those internal instincts too guide you- Listen to them. If I was taking heavy drugs for a health issue I think I would reconsider BF because there are some things we just don't know and if my baby can get gassy from me eating onions just as I would, well common sense is telling me that if I am putting something heavier in my system that is going to pass through the baby too. I don't like it when anyone needles one side of things and can't open their minds to understand another opinion. This being said its is all good- Do what is best for you and your child, and you have your Doctors by your side to help guide you-

Side not- It must be a challenge to have OCD along with the rest of your medical issues? Do your health issues slow down the OCD? Curious how these mix?

[My3cents]

I was worried that quote would be misinterpreted. It was more of a response to people saying I nurse for exhibition. I don't. I nurse because I try my hardest to be the best mom *I* Can be. That doesn't mean that I judge others for what they do. I HAVE used formula before. I'd be quite a hyprocrite to say mothers are awful for doing so.



No, if you had read all the links mentioned it states on a few that the amount in milk is so so so small that it can't pass through enough to prevent withdrawal. In the same token, it can't get a child addicted either. Every so often we detox me off my meds too, because I don't want to have to move on to heavier meds like many of my EDS friends have. When this happens, it doesn't affect my kids at all.



Lawsuits. Everything has a disclaimer, everything. Read ANY label, they all have disclaimers. This is to prevent you from suing if something SHOULD happen, even if its not related.

well this is scary then, because when I read those I am thinking that it says, consult your doctor before taking if your bf--- is a warning to this could be bad for your baby. I am not thinking of Suing or being Sued- How sad is that-

[My3cents]

I was just thinking, there was a day when people drank like fish and smoked like chimneys while pregnant! We're a resilient species, that's for sure. happyface

yes but we know more as we learn more-

[MyAngels]

Will probably get to 70-72 here today. Good day for it too, we got our new fence up yesterday so we are starting our outdoor classroom renovations today! I am SOOOOO excited!!!!

I hope you'll post some pics when you're done . I'd love to see how it comes out.

[My3cents]

Nevermind. I am over DONE.

I was going to comment too.......lovethis

[My3cents]

Frgsonmysox. I may not (and do not ) agree with everything you say and do. But I DO think you are very knowledgeable about breastfeeding-and have probably done more homework on it than most of us here. I know that when I am truly passionate about something I might come across as condescending/thinking I'm better than those that don't think the way I do. I think most of us can come across this way when we're passionate about something-just because of the strong feelings we have.
I think that you have made the best choice for you and your family, and it doesn't sound like you made your decision lightly.
I also think it's wonderful that providers and parents on this forum can learn from you and your experiences, whether or not they agree. I also think there are those that don't want to learn and are simply trying to argue.
I breastfed 3 of my 6 girls. I do think breast milk is better, but do I think I'm a bad mom for not nursing the other 3? Not at all. Formula is simply an other option for feeding our babies. I don't think you're calling me a bad mom for that either, and am not sure where others came up with that.

Anyhow-didn't mean to start blabbing-I just wanted to say I think we're being a bit hard on frgsonmysox and I don't think she deserves the tough inquisition like questions and responses she's getting.

[frgsonmysox]

I feel breast feeding is best for baby, but .......... nothing wrong with formula either. I have done both. What I don't like about BF is that if you join a BF Group in real life or even online, they are very strong on BF being the one and only way. My suggestion is to do what is right for you and your baby and you have those internal instincts too guide you- Listen to them. If I was taking heavy drugs for a health issue I think I would reconsider BF because there are some things we just don't know and if my baby can get gassy from me eating onions just as I would, well common sense is telling me that if I am putting something heavier in my system that is going to pass through the baby too. I don't like it when anyone needles one side of things and can't open their minds to understand another opinion. This being said its is all good- Do what is best for you and your child, and you have your Doctors by your side to help guide you-

Side not- It must be a challenge to have OCD along with the rest of your medical issues? Do your health issues slow down the OCD? Curious how these mix?

It ****s. Truly. I think EDS and OCD are a cruel cruel combo of diagnosis's. I get caught in a never ended spiral at times. EDS causes me to have Chronic Fatigue, POTs, and energy issues. OCD causes me to have high anxiety, depression, and a need to perform rituals to assuage these.

When my OCD gets too bad it causes me to have my body start to flare up, which causes more fatigue, POTs episodes, and a depletion of energy. This makes it harder to perform my rituals, and to get my anxiety under control, which then further exacerbates the EDS issues, and so on.

If my EDS gets too out of control, same thing. I know have no energy, at what not to perform the rituals necessary, and it spirals.

It's a cruel joke, but I think EDS is too. I mean, seriously? A disorder that causes my connective tissue to be super weak?!

[Crystal]

It ****s. Truly. I think EDS and OCD are a cruel cruel combo of diagnosis's. I get caught in a never ended spiral at times. EDS causes me to have Chronic Fatigue, POTs, and energy issues. OCD causes me to have high anxiety, depression, and a need to perform rituals to assuage these.

When my OCD gets too bad it causes me to have my body start to flare up, which causes more fatigue, POTs episodes, and a depletion of energy. This makes it harder to perform my rituals, and to get my anxiety under control, which then further exacerbates the EDS issues, and so on.

If my EDS gets too out of control, same thing. I know have no energy, at what not to perform the rituals necessary, and it spirals.

It's a cruel joke, but I think EDS is too. I mean, seriously? A disorder that causes my connective tissue to be super weak?!

That sounds truly horrific! I am sorry that you have to deal with this stuff.

How does this effect you when working with children? I cannot imagine having these medical conditions and being required to "perform" all day, every day with a group of young children. Are you able to squeeze in rest for yourself when needed? I bet it is really hard when your husband is deployed and you are on your own with your own five. Do you have family nearby that can at least help you out and give you a break occasionally?

[spud912]

Will probably get to 70-72 here today. Good day for it too, we got our new fence up yesterday so we are starting our outdoor classroom renovations today! I am SOOOOO excited!!!!

We are already in the low 90's here in Arizona