Am I Morally Or Legally Obligated?

[Country Kids]

I was just thinking, there was a day when people drank like fish and smoked like chimneys while pregnant! We're a resilient species, that's for sure. happyface

Many many people were born with learning disablitlies though from that. Alcohol Fetal Syndrom is the one I can think of right of the bat. Low birth rates, detoxing from the cigerattes/alcohol.

[just_peachy]

Many many people were born with learning disablitlies though from that. Alcohol Fetal Syndrom is the one I can think of right of the bat. Low birth rates, detoxing from the cigerattes/alcohol.

Well I'm certainly not saying it is okay... this thread just made me think of that.

[nannyde]

I would bet that she is doing her research before replying

I am listening to the Supremes today. Justice Scalia is annoying me greatly.:confused:

[nannyde]

Thank you A different mother in my shoes may have chosen a different path. It doesn't make either of us wrong. My doctors are all perfectly fine with me nursing, not a single one has ever encouraged me to stop.

Would you be allowed to donate milk to breast milk banks? Not privately but to a business or organization that donates or sells breastmilk from stranger to stranger?

[frgsonmysox]

"Lawsuits. Everything has a disclaimer, everything. Read ANY label, they all have disclaimers. This is to prevent you from suing if something SHOULD happen, even if its not related."


So if you find out somewhere down the road that these medications really weren't safe for you to be taking while bf, would you turn around and sue the doctors for telling you it was ok.


I was admitted into the hospital one time while breastfeeding. The ER doctor/my doctor/the ped doctor took me off nursing because what ever they had me on wouldn't have been good for the baby. I was in for a kidney infection. A week or two after everything out of the system I was back breastfeeding. I really don't think I was on anything as potent as what you are on.

Most doctors are ignorant on what is safe to take while nursing, or are worried about a lawsuit and therefore anytime you are nursing you should speak to an IBCLC (NOT an LC), or a midwife, or even the LLL. They will not tell you its safe, again for fear of a lawsuit, but they will tell you "it's generally safe, there have been no issues". People are lawsuit happy these days!

Will I sue? No. I did my own research, I consulted numerous people, I feel I did everything I could in my power, as did my doctors, including reading numerous studies concerning the meds I'm on. I'm confident in what I take, to function. If there should be an issue down the road it will be hard to prove it was from narcotics, as we haven't seen any issues now. Plus, I'm not sue happy, and I trust my doctors. They know me well enough to know I'm not going to sue them, and they feel a lot more comfortable speaking openly and honestly with them.

I would bet that she is doing her research before replying

I would hope any good debater would!

I was just thinking, there was a day when people drank like fish and smoked like chimneys while pregnant! We're a resilient species, that's for sure. happyface

This is true. But medicine has changed a lot now, and the meds I'm on have been around since before my doctor began practicing. And he was a doctor in the vietnam war. He knows his stuff and has used these particular medications for a very long time. He has never had anyone who has had a child with adverse reactions. I'll take 50 years of experience as a pretty good indicator.

Would you be allowed to donate milk to breast milk banks? Not privately but to a business or organization that donates or sells breastmilk from stranger to stranger?

Depends on the bank. Privately, if the person wanted. To a milk bank, it depends on the bank. Some, no, because they accept NO ONE on ANY medications, and others would. I don't see how this is relevant. A milk bank is more afraid of lawsuits than anything else, so they have to be very strict.

[nannyde]

Most doctors are ignorant on what is safe to take while nursing, or are worried about a lawsuit and therefore anytime you are nursing you should speak to an IBCLC (NOT an LC), or a midwife, or even the LLL. They will not tell you its safe, again for fear of a lawsuit, but they will tell you "it's generally safe, there have been no issues". People are lawsuit happy these days!

Will I sue? No. I did my own research, I consulted numerous people, I feel I did everything I could in my power, as did my doctors, including reading numerous studies concerning the meds I'm on. I'm confident in what I take, to function. If there should be an issue down the road it will be hard to prove it was from narcotics, as we haven't seen any issues now. Plus, I'm not sue happy, and I trust my doctors. They know me well enough to know I'm not going to sue them, and they feel a lot more comfortable speaking openly and honestly with them.



I would hope any good debater would!



This is true. But medicine has changed a lot now, and the meds I'm on have been around since before my doctor began practicing. And he was a doctor in the vietnam war. He knows his stuff and has used these particular medications for a very long time. He has never had anyone who has had a child with adverse reactions. I'll take 50 years of experience as a pretty good indicator.




Depends on the bank. Privately, if the person wanted. To a milk bank, it depends on the bank. Some, no, because they accept NO ONE on ANY medications, and others would. I don't see how this is relevant. A milk bank is more afraid of lawsuits than anything else, so they have to be very strict.

can you name a breastmilk bank that would accept your milk? Not privately. One where you donate milk to a stranger.

[frgsonmysox]

Honestly, not off the top of my head. I looked into donating milk years ago before I was placed on meds. Once I was on medication I decided not to pursue it. *I* didn't feel comfortable donating at that point. What if something went wrong? I'm not immune to feelings of doubt or fear, but I make that decision for myself, not someone else.

However, I've had many people inform me that their are banks and other nationally recognized milk exchanges that would accept my milk.

Milk banks are going away as the go to source for breastmilk since they pasteurize it and cause it to lose a lot of its nutrients. Many people are relying on private donation and places like milkshare. If a friend asked me for milk, which has happened, I donate because they know what I'm on and are fine with it.

[just_peachy]

Honestly, not off the top of my head. I looked into donating milk years ago before I was placed on meds. Once I was on medication I decided not to pursue it. *I* didn't feel comfortable donating at that point. What if something went wrong? I'm not immune to feelings of doubt or fear, but I make that decision for myself, not someone else.

However, I've had many people inform me that their are banks and other nationally recognized milk exchanges that would accept my milk.

Milk banks are going away as the go to source for breastmilk since they pasteurize it and cause it to lose a lot of its nutrients. Many people are relying on private donation and places like milkshare. If a friend asked me for milk, which has happened, I donate because they know what I'm on and are fine with it.

Donating milk is like donating blood. Over-caution is protocol. My brother got a false-positive for AIDS the first time he donated blood (my poor parents nearly had a heart attack) and although it was false, he's never allowed to give blood again. I don't think whether or not she can donate her milk is a good indicator of the the safety of her decision in this case.

[frgsonmysox]

Donating milk is like donating blood. Over-caution is protocol. My brother got a false-positive for AIDS the first time he donated blood (my poor parents nearly had a heart attack) and although it was false, he's never allowed to give blood again. I don't think whether or not she can donate her blood is a good indicator of the the safety of her decision in this case.

I can't donate blood, ever, because I lived in Germany in the 80's.

[just_peachy]

I can't donate blood, ever, because I lived in Germany in the 80's.

Oops, I meant milk. And that's interesting! I remember there being a laundry list of exclusions, but Germany seems so benign to me. (I've never been anywhere, so I always just skimmed that part. )

[frgsonmysox]

Oops, I meant milk. And that's interesting! I remember there being a laundry list of exclusions, but Germany seems so benign to me. (I've never been anywhere, so I always just skimmed that part. )

It has to do with exposure to mad cow disease. I was there from the age of 2 until 5 but I am banned for life. I never meet the weight requirements either, but man I do wish I could donate!

I am on the bone marrow list, and AM allowed to donate to that.

[Lavender]

Would you be allowed to donate milk to breast milk banks? Not privately but to a business or organization that donates or sells breastmilk from stranger to stranger?

I can't donate to a milk bank because I lived in England 24 years ago.

I'm sure my opinion doesn't matter since I'm new, but I don't see why this is still being debated when the mother in question is working closely with multitudes of experts regarding the subject. I'm not sure how random people on the 'net can know better.

I personally pumped for a preemie while on narcotics and blood pressure meds. The NICU and the leading high-risk perinatologists in San Diego assured us that the tremendous benefits of breastmilk for a preemie outweighed any impact from the minute amounts that could possibly enter the breastmilk.

[Crystal]

I can't donate to a milk bank because I lived in England 24 years ago.

I'm sure my opinion doesn't matter since I'm new, but I don't see why this is still being debated when the mother in question is working closely with multitudes of experts regarding the subject. I'm not sure how random people on the 'net can know better.

I personally pumped for a preemie while on narcotics and blood pressure meds. The NICU and the leading high-risk perinatologists in San Diego assured us that the tremendous benefits of breastmilk for a preemie outweighed any impact from the minute amounts that could possibly enter the breastmilk.

Yes, your opinion does matter

The reason it is being so heatedly debated with OP is because of her stance on other threads related to breast feeding. And, some of us really are interested in the FACTS about breastfeeding while taking narcotics around the clock. That's all.

[frgsonmysox]

Yes, your opinion does matter

The reason it is being so heatedly debated with OP is because of her stance on other threads related to breast feeding. And, some of us really are interested in the FACTS about breastfeeding while taking narcotics around the clock. That's all.

My stance on other threads about nursing being the best for your baby? Thats not a stance, it's a fact. I'm not what I've done or said to cause this to be so heated.

[Crystal]

My stance on other threads about nursing being the best for your baby? Thats not a stance, it's a fact. I'm not what I've done or said to cause this to be so heated.

Nevermind. I am over DONE.