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  • Cat Herder
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 13744

    #46
    Originally posted by 284878
    Is it just the invoice option, that makes it special?
    It keeps all my records for me with less than 10 minutes of data entry per day. These are what I can't find elsewhere.

    Actual Child Hours in Care – Per Child, Actual Child Hours in Care- Group, Meal Count Report – Annual, Meal Count Report – For Parents, Form 8829 Detailed Expenses, Form W-10 – with total, Schedule C – Detailed Expenses, Standard Meal Allowance – Annual Total, Statement of Accounts - Annual, Statements of Payments – Annual, Time-Space – Time Children Present, Time Space – Other Activities, Time Space Calculation – Annual, Vehicle Mileage, Depreciation, Create and/or Auto Invoices, Receipts, Sign – in – Sign Out sheets, Etc.
    - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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    • Alwaysgreener
      Home Child Care Provider
      • Oct 2013
      • 2519

      #47
      Originally posted by Cat Herder
      It keeps all my records for me with less than 10 minutes of data entry per day. These are what I can't find elsewhere.

      Actual Child Hours in Care – Per Child, Actual Child Hours in Care- Group, Meal Count Report – Annual, Meal Count Report – For Parents, Form 8829 Detailed Expenses, Form W-10 – with total, Schedule C – Detailed Expenses, Standard Meal Allowance – Annual Total, Statement of Accounts - Annual, Statements of Payments – Annual, Time-Space – Time Children Present, Time Space – Other Activities, Time Space Calculation – Annual, Vehicle Mileage, Depreciation, Create and/or Auto Invoices, Receipts, Sign – in – Sign Out sheets, Etc.
      Wow you really do depend on MMK. I tried it when I started and I just found it to be slow, time-consuming and outdated. (Plus I was double entering expenses into that and quicken.)

      I looked and can not find most of the reports that you listed above in KK, I am not sure if they are not unlocked due to only have the free version or they no longer exist.

      I know that I had access to Actual Child Hours in Care reports in minute menu. I used the report for my dd hours to record my hours when I was eligible to claim her. But can I ask, what do you use the Actual Child Hours in Care reports for?

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      • Lovisa
        Daycare.com Member
        • Mar 2015
        • 215

        #48
        Originally posted by 284878
        The accounting, on the other hand, I do not get what the fuss is all about. I have looked at Kidkare and minute menu videos by Tom and KidKare, tried accounting in MM (when I started) and I just do not get why everyone loves it so much. I have spreadsheets that I created that records all that info, which I feel I have more control over entering data and categories. (including time/ space, which is auto calculated in tax programs) Am I missing something? Is it just the invoice option, that makes it special?
        I love the invoice option, but mostly I love the ease of it. It isn't complicated at all. Makes taxes super easy to do ourselves. And in comparing it to KK, I honestly don't understand how anyone would like KK better than MMK. Especially since I am NOT on the food program. With KK, I am forced to put in specifics for meals. With MMK, I just click a box saying what meals I fed what kid. I guess it just isn't streamlines and straight forward like MMK is, IMO.

        Originally posted by Cat Herder
        It keeps all my records for me with less than 10 minutes of data entry per day. These are what I can't find elsewhere.

        Actual Child Hours in Care – Per Child, Actual Child Hours in Care- Group, Meal Count Report – Annual, Meal Count Report – For Parents, Form 8829 Detailed Expenses, Form W-10 – with total, Schedule C – Detailed Expenses, Standard Meal Allowance – Annual Total, Statement of Accounts - Annual, Statements of Payments – Annual, Time-Space – Time Children Present, Time Space – Other Activities, Time Space Calculation – Annual, Vehicle Mileage, Depreciation, Create and/or Auto Invoices, Receipts, Sign – in – Sign Out sheets, Etc.
        Same here! There are a few things you listed that I don't use, but most I do!

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        • hwichlaz
          Daycare.com Member
          • May 2013
          • 2064

          #49
          Originally posted by 284878

          I looked and can not find most of the reports that you listed above in KK, I am not sure if they are not unlocked due to only have the free version or they no longer exist.
          You don't have access.

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          • Alwaysgreener
            Home Child Care Provider
            • Oct 2013
            • 2519

            #50
            Originally posted by Lovisa
            I love the invoice option, but mostly I love the ease of it. It isn't complicated at all. Makes taxes super easy to do ourselves. And in comparing it to KK, I honestly don't understand how anyone would like KK better than MMK. Especially since I am NOT on the food program. With KK, I am forced to put in specifics for meals. With MMK, I just click a box saying what meals I fed what kid. I guess it just isn't streamlines and straight forward like MMK is, IMO.
            Personally, I do not find KK any better than MMK. Neither of the programs are efficient enough for me, I do not know maybe I am spoiled. I use a program for my church, it is web based and very efficient.

            I feel that a program that I am required to use while little ones are present should be as efficient as possible.
            KK requires you to use a mouse, it is not 'tab' and 'enter' key friendly. When I click on an infant's name, the page should not refresh and jump to add a warning, "must enter at least one food", that warning should not pop up until you try to save it without any food entered or not at all.

            KK will autosave when you enter times but not meals. With MMK I could go through all the meals before I hit save, now I have to save after every meal.

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            • Alwaysgreener
              Home Child Care Provider
              • Oct 2013
              • 2519

              #51
              Originally posted by hwichlaz
              You don't have access.
              Do you have access?
              Does KK have all or any of the reports catheader wants to have?

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