Pitbulls in Daycare

[Brooksie]

That logic is flawed when it comes to dogs though, which is evidenced by the fact that more people are bitten by Labrador Retrievers than any other breed. Everyone just assumes because they look cute and cuddly they must be safe.

It's also why people are constantly abandoning their animals when they pick out one out based soley on the way it looks as opposed to what it can and cannot contribute to their family.

The Slow Loris is one of the cutest harmless looking critters on the planet imho, but just touching it can kill you.

You cannot judge an animal by looks alone, especially when it comes to domesticated pets that have been bred for centuries to perform very specific tasks or live in very specific ways.


If you don't like "pit bull type" dogs that's fine. But there's no reason to further villianize them with already disproven myths about who and what they inherently are. Someone else offered a great link to how they placed in temperament tests. They truly are safer than many other common/harmless looking breeds and that's been proven time and time again.


eta - all we have up here for snakes are harmless. If I was out of my element somewhere else I wouldn't sit and contemplate the size or color of the jaw of a snake I ran across, I'd simply retreat (quickly and with terror) and assume all had deadly potential.....same would go for any animal I was completely unfamiliar with

I also have a pet snake. Kept away from the kids and padlocked. While it is a boa constrictor, to an uneducated eye, his jaws may look big and venomous. Either way he's almost 5 ft long and can be dangerous. Its because he's a snake and has the ability to bite and constrict. Its no different than a dog. Any dog can bite and cause damage. And the majority of those instances are provoked by human error. Its about taking the necessary precautions to keep everyone safe. NO MATTER the breed/species.

[Leanna]

Am I the only one who had to look up what a "slow loris" is?

[craftymissbeth]

Am I the only one who had to look up what a "slow loris" is?

I knew what it was but didn't know they are poisonous

[Brooksie]

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My Labrador Mix (lighter colored) versus my "Pit". You tell me who looks more threatening.... You tell me that my dogs are "More likely to do harm". Yea, they're nasty people haters and can't wait to tear our faces off.

[Michael]

I'll add just for contrast:

http://pointing-lab.com/gmpr-mpr-ipr-cp-cashzingers-cattail-corky/

We got one of our Labs from this breeder and he is a direct decendent of Corky. Labs can look like marshmallows (and most do) or they can look like they're on steroids ready to rip your arm off.

Just like most Labs don't look like Corky even in their prime, most "pit bull types" don't look as beefy as the pictures you shared. 90% of that muscling is diet and conditioning. No dog is born looking like that as far as either breed is concerned.

Ok, I'll take this topic away from Pit Bulls and dogs.

All animals can attack, bite, react, protect. Some have a high percentage of destruction when they do. I would rather be scratched by a cat than a lion, a non venomous snake then a poisonous one. There are more Bengal tigers in the US then India. I think somewhere around 12,000 tigers in the US are pets. The question is, what's safe? You want to keep a lion in your backyard, I have no problem as long as you keep it caged and secure and don't take it for walks in the neighborhood.

Don't get me wrong. I would love to have a large dog that could attack on command if I was in the military or police force, where I would also have a side arm just in case.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/tiger-mom-teen-girl-felicia-frisco-sleeps-bengal/story?id=12864777

[Willow]

Am I the only one who had to look up what a "slow loris" is?

Aaaaaand? You thought what?

Ridiculously adorable and harmless looking as an animal could seem at first glance no?

[Willow]

Ok, I'll take this topic away from Pit Bulls and dogs.

All animals can attack, bite, react, protect. Some have a high percentage of destruction when they do. I would rather be scratched by a cat than a lion, a non venomous snake then a poisonous one. There are more Bengal tigers in the US then India. I think somewhere around 12,000 tigers in the US are pets. The question is, what's safe? You want to keep a lion in your backyard, I have no problem as long as you keep it caged and secure and don't take it for walks in the neighborhood.

Don't get me wrong. I would love to have a large dog that could attack on command if I was in the military or police force, where I would also have a side arm just in case.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/tiger-mom-t...ry?id=12864777

I will not disagree with any of your above!

I saw a goose trapped in a chicken wire fence once and stopped to try to free it. The owner came out and thanked me, then offered to show me the panther he just acquired. It was about 20 yards away, in the barn. Said it was friendly as a kitten and he was proud as a pea**** to show it off.

I don't think I ever fled so fast from a place in all my life.

Nor was I ever as shocked to learn in my state keeping such an animal was legal.


No thanks


I will add, as big of a dog fan as I am, there are plenty of breeds I'm not of a fan of (or outright loathe) also for reasons people would deem unreasonable. At the end of the day all that matters is what we feel comfortable having our families around.

[Leanna]

Aaaaaand? You thought what?

Ridiculously adorable and harmless looking as an animal could seem at first glance no?

Actually I thought they look like the cute little gooey alien from Flight of the Navigator!

[Brooksie]

I can 100% say, that I'm more likely to be bitten by one of my DAYCARE CHILDREN tomorrow, than I am to be bitten by one of my dogs. But that's because I know the temperament of my dogs, I know the training we do with them,I know how well socialized they are, and I know their limits. The kids however.... they're not of my doing. And yea, I get bitten by kids. Not my dogs.

Keep your pets away from your kids, for your PETS safety. Especially when trying to re-home them. Any animal, or person, can act aggressively when put under too much stress. Children are stressful. Protect everyone by keeping them separate.

[Leanna]

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My Labrador Mix (lighter colored) versus my "Pit". You tell me who looks more threatening.... You tell me that my dogs are "More likely to do harm". Yea, they're nasty people haters and can't wait to tear our faces off.

Lol...these pics remind me so much of my sisters dogs. She has two "pitbulls" and is constantly posting pics on Facebook of her two little boys sleeping with her dogs, kissing them, etc. Her male dog hides during thunderstorms!

[Brooksie]

Lol...these pics remind me so much of my sisters dogs. She has two "pitbulls" and is constantly posting pics on Facebook of her two little boys sleeping with her dogs, kissing them, etc. Her male dog hides during thunderstorms!

My dogs do too. They are bigger babies than my baby! My "pit" is frequently held like a baby and wags her tail and eats it up the entire time. Although I don't think my lab mix would appreciate that so much. Both of them snuggle with us on the couch, take and give many face kisses and want absolutely everything to do with dd. Even if she hits them. They take it because they love her and couldn't imagine doing ANYTHING that would hurt her. But... make a move to hurt my child, and you may see that "aggressive dog" thing that is assumed by the breed

[caregiver]

I can 100% say, that I'm more likely to be bitten by one of my DAYCARE CHILDREN tomorrow, than I am to be bitten by one of my dogs. But that's because I know the temperament of my dogs, I know the training we do with them,I know how well socialized they are, and I know their limits. The kids however.... they're not of my doing. And yea, I get bitten by kids. Not my dogs.

Keep your pets away from your kids, for your PETS safety. Especially when trying to re-home them. Any animal, or person, can act aggressively when put under too much stress. Children are stressful. Protect everyone by keeping them separate.

I do not agree with your comment below:
Keep your pets away from your kids, for your PETS safety

YOU meaning YOU, HAVE TO TAKE THE TIME TO TEACH your kids HOW to act and behave around pets. If they are taught how to be kind to a pet, then your pets safety should be ok! Kids will not be stressful if they are taught how to be around a pet. If they are not exposed to a pet of any kind, they do not know how to act when they do come in contact with one and probably will be afraid of one as they have not been around a animal. I guess I don't understand why it is so difficult for people to not take the time with children TO teach them how to treat animals! It is our responsibility as parents and providers to teach them these things. If you have a animal that is big or not good with kids if you do daycare, then do not have the animal, but to say that children should not be around animals period is unfair. For your animals safety, teach your children how to be around the animal the right way and don't let them pull a tail or hit the animal or mistreat it, they need to know what not to do and what they can do with a pet and that is what you have to teach them and show them how to be nice to your pet. I sit with my kids and we pet my cat together and they know how to be nice with her and that is how we treat her. How are kids supposed to learn about animals if we don't expose them,show and explain to them how to be around a animal. I am just saying that if you don't want kids around a animal, then do not have one, but to say that kids should not be around them at all is not fair. If you take the time to show your child how to behave around a animal then your animal should be safe as your child has been taught how to be around one. It is not a hard thing to do. TEACH and they will LEARN! Sorry for the rant, but I needed to stick up for having a pet and also having kids be around a pet. One other thing if you don't trust your dog with kids, and your doing daycare then you need to decide if you keep your dog or give it away as it is not fair to your dog or yourself.

[Brooksie]

I do not agree with your comment below:
Keep your pets away from your kids, for your PETS safety

YOU meaning YOU, HAVE TO TAKE THE TIME TO TEACH your kids HOW to act and behave around pets. If they are taught how to be kind to a pet, then your pets safety should be ok! Kids will not be stressful if they are taught how to be around a pet. If they are not exposed to a pet of any kind, they do not know how to act when they do come in contact with one and probably will be afraid of one as they have not been around a animal. I guess I don't understand why it is so difficult for people to not take the time with children TO teach them how to treat animals! It is our responsibility as parents and providers to teach them these things. If you have a animal that is big or not good with kids if you do daycare, then do not have the animal, but to say that children should not be around animals period is unfair. For your animals safety, teach your children how to be around the animal the right way and don't let them pull a tail or hit the animal or mistreat it, they need to know what not to do and what they can do with a pet and that is what you have to teach them and show them how to be nice to your pet. I sit with my kids and we pet my cat together and they know how to be nice with her and that is how we treat her. How are kids supposed to learn about animals if we don't expose them,show and explain to them how to be around a animal. I am just saying that if you don't want kids around a animal, then do not have one, but to say that kids should not be around them at all is not fair. If you take the time to show your child how to behave around a animal then your animal should be safe as your child has been taught how to be around one. It is not a hard thing to do. TEACH and they will LEARN! Sorry for the rant, but I needed to stick up for having a pet and also having kids be around a pet. One other thing if you don't trust your dog with kids, and your doing daycare then you need to decide if you keep your dog or give it away as it is not fair to your dog or yourself.

You think its more fair to put your dog in a shelter than to keep it separated from day care kids? I'm sorry but my pit was pulled from a high kill shelter and was on a Euth list. There's no way in hell that I would ever do that to her. And that's the most ridiculous statement from a "dog lover" that I have ever heard.

When I had just one dog (he's older and very calm) I used to keep him out with the daycare kids. If you can closely supervise all the interactions with him and the kids than I think it can be reasonable to allow your dog out. I have never had a problem. I started separating my animals after I adopted our newest girl. She's young and high energy. We have 5 kids here and a good size space but not enough for a dog to be able to run around. With 2 dogs and 5 kids it would be not be reasonable to watch every interaction. And yes, daycare kids are stressful. Kids are loud, they do things in quick movements, they don't know how to manage a dogs stress level (which is different than our stress tolerance).

On top of that its your job to protect your dog. I had a DCD (not usual pick up) say that my dog growled at him shortly after we adopted her. I was right there watching his interaction. She did not growl. Her tail was wagging. He even reached down and pulled a ball out of her mouth and played fetch with her. Talking about what a good looking dog she was. But he still went back to DCM and told her that he thought my dog was vicious, probably because of her breed. That's a false accusation. YOU need to protect your dog from PEOPLE. Any dog can bite. Any animal can bite. It takes a bad day and a bad move and any thing can happen. Its not just about teaching kids to respect animals, which I agree is very important. Its about doing every thing you can to protect your animals.

[caregiver]

You think its more fair to put your dog in a shelter than to keep it separated from day care kids? I'm sorry but my pit was pulled from a high kill shelter and was on a Euth list. There's no way in hell that I would ever do that to her. And that's the most ridiculous statement from a "dog lover" that I have ever heard.

When I had just one dog (he's older and very calm) I used to keep him out with the daycare kids. If you can closely supervise all the interactions with him and the kids than I think it can be reasonable to allow your dog out. I have never had a problem. I started separating my animals after I adopted our newest girl. She's young and high energy. We have 5 kids here and a good size space but not enough for a dog to be able to run around. With 2 dogs and 5 kids it would be not be reasonable to watch every interaction. And yes, daycare kids are stressful. Kids are loud, they do things in quick movements, they don't know how to manage a dogs stress level (which is different than our stress tolerance).

On top of that its your job to protect your dog. I had a DCD (not usual pick up) say that my dog growled at him shortly after we adopted her. I was right there watching his interaction. She did not growl. Her tail was wagging. He even reached down and pulled a ball out of her mouth and played fetch with her. Talking about what a good looking dog she was. But he still went back to DCM and told her that he thought my dog was vicious, probably because of her breed. That's a false accusation. YOU need to protect your dog from PEOPLE. Any dog can bite. Any animal can bite. It takes a bad day and a bad move and any thing can happen. Its not just about teaching kids to respect animals, which I agree is very important. Its about doing every thing you can to protect your animals.

Sorry, I did not mean to say give your dog away, I just meant that if you don't want kids around a dog, then just don't have one at all if your afraid of a pet getting hurt by a child. I guess what I am trying to say it that it doesn't hurt kids to be at least around a animal of any kind, just so that they know how to be and act around them and if you have kids that you don't think will be nice around a pet, then of course you should protect your pet. All I meant with my posts is that there is no reason why kids and pets can't be together if you know your pet and trust the kids. So sorry, did not mean to sound like I was trying to tell you to get rid of your dog. Sorry , I tend to get carried away on subjects and my husband always tells me to get off "my soap box" so just was trying to make a point and got too carried away. Yes, always protect your pet, no argument there.

[Willow]

Sorry, I did not mean to say give your dog away, I just meant that if you don't want kids around a dog, then just don't have one at all if your afraid of a pet getting hurt by a child. I guess what I am trying to say it that it doesn't hurt kids to be at least around a animal of any kind, just so that they know how to be and act around them and if you have kids that you don't think will be nice around a pet, then of course you should protect your pet. All I meant with my posts is that there is no reason why kids and pets can't be together if you know your pet and trust the kids. So sorry, did not mean to sound like I was trying to tell you to get rid of your dog. Sorry , I tend to get carried away on subjects and my husband always tells me to get off "my soap box" so just was trying to make a point and got too carried away. Yes, always protect your pet, no argument there.

There's a huge reason to keep your pets away from other people's children......it's called liability.

It's not in my job description to use my family members as guinea pigs to try to teach other people's children how to interact properly with animals. Many children don't have the capacity at the ages I take and I'm not about to put my fur kids (because they can be ordered put to sleep at even a false accusation) or my house (hello lawsuits that'll drain every penny you ever owned) on the line for a lesson other children's own parents should take responsibility for.