Pitbulls in Daycare

[Brooksie]

Hey! Don't bring my dog into this

Stephen King said he SPECIFICALLY choose to use a Saint Bernard to play the role of Cujo BECUASE their normal temperament and demeanor are the EXACT opposite of the behavior of Cujo (a rabid dog).....unfortunately now the breed carries that stereotype. :confused:

BUUUUUT, because of his large size (he is 8 months in the photo) I would never ever have him be around a small child.

Heck, he even knocks grown men to the ground just by wagging his tail.... He currently weighs 215lbs but thinks he is a lap dog.

He might also be the most docile dog ever, but his teeth ARE large and IF, he ever did decide to bite, nip or grasp onto someone with those teeth, I can only imagine how damaging it could be.

Oh my gosh. How handsome!!! My mom and her boy friend have a St Bernard. She's massive and only just turned 1 year. She also thinks she's a lap dog.

[Blackcat31]

Does anyone have any knowledge of these dogs being included in "dangerous" lists? Has anyone here heard of one of these dogs frequently attacking humans? http://www.akc.org/breeds/bull_terrier/index.cfm

Isn't that Spuds McKenzie? The dog they used to advertise Budweiser beer in the late 80ies? ::

[Brooksie]

Funny that ANY bull terrier would be listed. I could be wrong, but I have NEVER met a Bull Terrier or Miniature Bull Terrier that was anything other than pleasant, happy, friendly. I have never before heard the purebred Bull Terrier or Miniature Bull Terrier lumped in with the generic "pit-bull" in any conversation. Maybe I have just missed it, but I have also never heard of any attack by a purebred Bull Terrier or Mini Bull Terrier.

Does anyone have any knowledge of these dogs being included in "dangerous" lists? Has anyone here heard of one of these dogs frequently attacking humans? http://www.akc.org/breeds/bull_terrier/index.cfm

Bull terriers do fall under the same category. I love bull terriers. Would love to have the opportunity to rescue one some day. One of my favorite books growing up was "Boodil, my dog" and was about a bull terrier that was scared of everything. So cute. Have wanted one ever since

[Heidi]

I agree with the PP regarding Shih Tzu's.

I love my little Shih Tzu, but have come to realize in the last few months that he cannot be in the same room as my dck's. My infants and toddlers are simply unpredictable, and so is he. They've yanked his hair and his tail. He's growled at them and warned them. Actually, I took that as he's warned ME.

It's not ideal, because when they are gone, he is at my hip or dh's almost every second. He is very attached. He's gated away now, and he tends to bark or complain ALOT. Put him in a kennel, he'll go ballistic and poop all over himself (we tried to kennel train him as a puppy). Put him in the garage, he'll poop all over that (and it's cold). Most days, it's a PITA. He's loose for a while, then kids come, then I gate him off, then he gets on my nerves (babies crying...dog barking...). Then he goes outside, then he scratches at the door endlessly, then I put him in the garage, then he comes back in at nap time, then it's the gate again until everyone's gone (or outside or the garage).

The dog is 6 1/2 years old, and I got him before I started daycare again. I'd probably not get another one once he's gone, or if I did, he'd be trained to be outside or kenneled from day one. In fact, it would be a criteria that the breeder already started that.

My sister owns 3 dogs and does daycare. They used to interact, but somewhere along the way, she started separating them as well. The dogs are around kids all the time; just not daycare kids.

[Brooksie]

I agree with the PP regarding Shih Tzu's.

I love my little Shih Tzu, but have come to realize in the last few months that he cannot be in the same room as my dck's. My infants and toddlers are simply unpredictable, and so is he. They've yanked his hair and his tail. He's growled at them and warned them. Actually, I took that as he's warned ME.

It's not ideal, because when they are gone, he is at my hip or dh's almost every second. He is very attached. He's gated away now, and he tends to bark or complain ALOT. Put him in a kennel, he'll go ballistic and poop all over himself (we tried to kennel train him as a puppy). Put him in the garage, he'll poop all over that (and it's cold). Most days, it's a PITA. He's loose for a while, then kids come, then I gate him off, then he gets on my nerves (babies crying...dog barking...). Then he goes outside, then he scratches at the door endlessly, then I put him in the garage, then he comes back in at nap time, then it's the gate again until everyone's gone (or outside or the garage).

The dog is 6 1/2 years old, and I got him before I started daycare again. I'd probably not get another one once he's gone, or if I did, he'd be trained to be outside or kenneled from day one. In fact, it would be a criteria that the breeder already started that.

My sister owns 3 dogs and does daycare. They used to interact, but somewhere along the way, she started separating them as well. The dogs are around kids all the time; just not daycare kids.

Exactly. And I agree, your dog was warning you. Good for you for thinking of his best interest, even if the change has been a PITA for you. Good luck!

[Willow]

Funny that ANY bull terrier would be listed. I could be wrong, but I have NEVER met a Bull Terrier or Miniature Bull Terrier that was anything other than pleasant, happy, friendly. I have never before heard the purebred Bull Terrier or Miniature Bull Terrier lumped in with the generic "pit-bull" in any conversation. Maybe I have just missed it, but I have also never heard of any attack by a purebred Bull Terrier or Mini Bull Terrier.

Does anyone have any knowledge of these dogs being included in "dangerous" lists? Has anyone here heard of one of these dogs frequently attacking humans? http://www.akc.org/breeds/bull_terrier/index.cfm

I have heard of Pugs and Frenchies being listed to cover all basis in regards to breed specific legislation.

Someone with a "pit bull" may claim it's a Bull Terrier if confronted by their insurance carrier, HOA, city councel, neighbors etc. Since most people don't have a clue about breed based on looks alone, and looks alone can vary even within certain lines, lumping all that even so much has the potential to look "pit bul-ish" eliminates any grey area.


Not fair, or right, but it sure is happening all across the country.

[Leigh]

Isn't that Spuds McKenzie? The dog they used to advertise Budweiser beer in the late 80ies? ::

Yes. I have never thought of these dogs as "pit bulls". When I think pit bull, I think of those backyard bred mutts where no two dogs look the same.

[daycare]

Funny that ANY bull terrier would be listed. I could be wrong, but I have NEVER met a Bull Terrier or Miniature Bull Terrier that was anything other than pleasant, happy, friendly. I have never before heard the purebred Bull Terrier or Miniature Bull Terrier lumped in with the generic "pit-bull" in any conversation. Maybe I have just missed it, but I have also never heard of any attack by a purebred Bull Terrier or Mini Bull Terrier.

Does anyone have any knowledge of these dogs being included in "dangerous" lists? Has anyone here heard of one of these dogs frequently attacking humans? http://www.akc.org/breeds/bull_terrier/index.cfm

this list was given to me by my daycare insurance company. so it is only used if you use this insurance company

[Willow]

BC - are you pulling yer hair out trying to steer this thread back on it's course to nowhere yet??!

[Brooksie]

BC - are you pulling yer hair out trying to steer this thread back on it's course to nowhere yet??!

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[Blackcat31]

BC - are you pulling yer hair out trying to steer this thread back on it's course to nowhere yet??!

it's all good! ::

[Michael]

Isn't that Spuds McKenzie? The dog they used to advertise Budweiser beer in the late 80ies? ::

Spuds' breed was also considered a Dogs of War since he was General Patton's side-kick and best friend (he didn't have many).

I have no problem with the Bull Terrier. It's the dogs with the really big jaw muscles that can be a problem if they decide to nip at you. No Locking jaw myth, but I bet it would sure feel like it.

[Willow]

Spuds' breed was also considered a Dogs of War since he was General Patton's side-kick and best friend (he didn't have many).

I have no problem with the Bull Terrier. It's the dogs with the really big jaw muscles that can be a problem if they decide to nip at you. No Locking jaw myth, but I bet it would sure feel like it.

Actually, there is no more muscling there than there is in an elderly woman's jowels.

"Pit bull type" dogs like Staffys have a wide berth as far as bite goes because the more surface area they could get in their mouth the better the grip they could keep.

If that wide berth really had anything to contribute strength wise there is no way the MUCH slighter snooted breeds like Malinois, German Shepherds and Rotties would be able to not only match but in most cases double or triple their psi.


My Pug has the same thing going on compared to my Miniature Pinscher....again, one regularly busts the bones of animals nearly as big as he is while the other has trouble gumming a piece of popcorn.

[Brooksie]

Just going to take a minute to do this:

http://bslnews.org/pit-bull-heroes-hall-of-fame/

http://saveabull.com/pitbull-heroes/

[Brooksie]

http://bslnews.org/2011/02/04/hero-stray-pit-bull-saves-woman-and-child-from-attacker/

http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/boston-north/Dog-Pulls-Unconscious-Owner-From-Train-s-Path/-/11984708/13024050/-/hxrchq/-/index.html

http://www.examiner.com/article/pit-bull-saves-owner-from-potential-rapist

Just take the time to look at some of these. Even read the captions. Amazing animals no less capable of loving people than any other canine.