Do You Ever Have To Hold Kids Down?

[heather]

Like at nap time or changing time?
Or do you pick them up when it's time to go but they don't come?
I had a 2 1/2 yr old start last week who's not very good at listening, I hate to hold a child that old against their will but I really would not be able to get him out the door or back in again without picking him up. Or get his shoes on, diaper changed, or to stay on his sleep mat... I had to hold him on the mat today at nap time, only for about 5 seconds but I felt bad about it... however he got the point and he really needed the rest.
Is that what everyone else does or is there some secret I don't know about??

[daycare]

Like at nap time or changing time?
Or do you pick them up when it's time to go but they don't come?
I had a 2 1/2 yr old start last week who's not very good at listening, I hate to hold a child that old against their will but I really would not be able to get him out the door or back in again without picking him up. Or get his shoes on, diaper changed, or to stay on his sleep mat... I had to hold him on the mat today at nap time, only for about 5 seconds but I felt bad about it... however he got the point and he really needed the rest.
Is that what everyone else does or is there some secret I don't know about??

I honestly would not care for a child with that behavior, but why not just get a pack and play for nap times??

[SunshineMama]

I have never had to hold a child down. Aside from keeping a squirming 6-7 month old from falling off a diaper changing table, I think that holding a child down can send the wrong message, and can be viewed by others as very harsh. I would try other behavior modification techniques first. For example, find a way to make putting shoes on fun. Maybe sing a little song or something. As far as getting up at naptime, as soon as they get up you lay them back down. It may take a few (hundred) times of going through this (it gets better each day), but it is a gentle approach that still conveys respect for the child while getting your point across. 2.5 year olds really are into testing boundries consistency will get your point across, but it may take a little longer than you want.

[itlw8]

pick up yes, hold down never

I give them the evil eye and they lay back down

[daycare]

pick up yes, hold down never

I give them the evil eye and they lay back down

yes I am very good at the evil eye too..

One day one of my DCG started to cry on her way to my house. Her mom asked whats wrong. DCG said I don't want Miss X to look at me. So DCM puzzled asked me why doesnt DCG want you to look at her. (BTW she was a very naughty little girl)

I started to laugh and said because I got so tired of telling her NOT to do things that now I just give her the evil eye and she stops dead in her tracks./.

DCM begged me to teach her how I give the evil eye...

[Crystal]

Um. No. And you shouldn't hold him down on the mat either.

[SilverSabre25]

I have one right now (young toddler) that has always hated diaper changes and tends to get nasty rashes, and yes I do usually have to pin him so I can clean him up. Otherwise he would never get changed and would thrash and get poo everywhere.

I do have to sometimes pick up a child (again, usually younger toddler but occasionally an older child) who isn't coming when I need them to for some reason--time to go in, time to go out, need to have a private chat, etc.

[LK5kids]

PIck up to come in, yes.


During nap.....no.

[Blackcat31]

Like at nap time or changing time?
Or do you pick them up when it's time to go but they don't come?
I had a 2 1/2 yr old start last week who's not very good at listening, I hate to hold a child that old against their will but I really would not be able to get him out the door or back in again without picking him up. Or get his shoes on, diaper changed, or to stay on his sleep mat... I had to hold him on the mat today at nap time, only for about 5 seconds but I felt bad about it... however he got the point and he really needed the rest.
Is that what everyone else does or is there some secret I don't know about??

I haven't had to hold anyone down but I have had to put them back on their nap mats at least 1,532,946 times during nap before they got the point and stayed put.

[daycare]

I haven't had to hold anyone down but I have had to put them back on their nap mats at least 1,532,946 times during nap before they got the point and stayed put.

as hard as it is I hate to say it, but BC is right.....

put them back on their nap mats at least 1,532,946 times during nap before they got the point and stayed put.

when I transition from PNP to nap mat this is normally what happens..
another thing I would do is maybe sit and rub their back until they fell asleep

you can turn it from a battle to a game..

another thing you can try is giving choices.

DCB would you like to put your shoes on or would you like me to put your shoes on??? either way its getting done and he has a say in it, or so he thinks

[Lyss]

Pick up- Yes
Hold down- no... but I've seen it done. I worked in a center, in a 2yr old class, and we had a very squirmy DCB that the head teacher would hold down by laying her leg across his legs while holding his shoulder down with one hand and patting his back with the other at nap time Which she learned from another teacher in the threes room... This center also used rice tubes, they reminded me of draft guards for door/windows that they would lay across the backs of kids that had a hard time stay still. They weren't that heavy but the idea of being pinned down freaks me out so I could imagine how the kids felt! I only lasted 4 months there.

[shelby]

Pick up- Yes
Hold down- no... but I've seen it done. I worked in a center, in a 2yr old class, and we had a very squirmy DCB that the head teacher would hold down by laying her leg across his legs while holding his shoulder down with one hand and patting his back with the other at nap time Which she learned from another teacher in the threes room... This center also used rice tubes, they reminded me of draft guards for door/windows that they would lay across the backs of kids that had a hard time stay still. They weren't that heavy but the idea of being pinned down freaks me out so i didn't like that they did that. That and a few other issues were why I only lasted 4 months there.

I've see that happen too.. which is why I will never work at a center again. My dcb has not been sleeping for the last two days, so what I have done is every time he gets up, I just tell him no, its night , night time and tell him to lay down in my I mean it voice.. finally after 45 mins of this.. He fell asleep...

YOu will just have to make them know you mean business..

[Willow]

Unless you've been trained how to properly restrain a child and have a legal reason and right to do so I'd say you're treading on some pretty thin liability ice.

As a parent, if I ever heard someone pinned my child down during nap, I'd sue the living crap out of them....after a very blunt and angry verbal confrontation to boot.

[EntropyControlSpecialist]

No. But, I have had to guide them a million times back to their cot in silence and lay the blanket on top of their back again. After a week of this, they usually understand that nothing fun comes out of them getting off of their cot.

[Crystal]

Unless you've been trained how to properly restrain a child and have a legal reason and right to do so I'd say you're treading on some pretty thin liability ice.

As a parent, if I ever heard someone pinned my child down during nap, I'd sue the living crap out of them....after a very blunt and angry verbal confrontation to boot.

Yuuuuup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Naptime stuff with (some) providers really *^$$&$ me off. If you cannot deal with a toddler or preschooler getting up and having to put them back down (even if it is over and over and over) without getting "physical" about it, then you should not be caring for children.

And, yes, indeed, if ever I found that a provider held my child down on a napmat, in any way, shape or form, for one second or one minute....well, lets just say the provider would likely be finding herself held down as well.