O...M...G....How Much Do You Hold Your Newborns?!

[Crystal]

Just a bunch of mumbo jumbo if you ask me.

Well, I'll take advice from experts who have conducted long-term scientific research over that of a random child care provider any day.

[Michelle]

don't get discouraged by some of these posts.
Some people can argue about the color of the sky.

Just keep asking those good questions and chew the meat and spit out the bones..... those jagged, mean, critical,bones!
We are all friends here...right?

[Crystal]

Wow. I'm not sure who is arguing here.....the only thing I saw was the one post about CIO and then sahm got upset.....I really think the post from frgsonmysox was in response to wdmmoms post, not sahms? And, even if not, it was her opinion. I see from members here all the time that we should all be able to share our opinions without it being taken personally, and then, everyone always takes everything personally :confused:

Is it forum cycle time again ::

[frgsonmysox]

Poor baby and you! What age is the newborn? Hard when they are used to being held, or have movement of some kind. Is there a quiet room to put him in? Bouncer or swing that helps. What does mom/dad do at home?


I have a 6 month old that just started. He is used to being rocked and held his WHOLE naps. I am on day 3, and have let him cry it out each day. I rock him a bit, read to him, fill his tummy up then lay him down. I keep eye on him on camera, and go in every 15 minutes or so to rub his head and tell him it is ok. Day one lasted almost an hour of flat out crying, screaming. day 2, 45 minutes with whimpering and crying mix and today he fell asleep after about 15 minutes of whimpering. I think time with him and realizing I am not holding him when he sleeps.

THIS is the post I was referring to when it came to CIO.

As for long term effects of CIO, there have been many studies done on it. I won't lie, I'm an attached parent and the idea of CIO makes me furious.

[Meeko]

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrsp'slilpeeps
Just a bunch of mumbo jumbo if you ask me.


Crystal: Well, I'll take advice from experts who have conducted long-term scientific research over that of a random child care provider any day.


I agreed with some of the article, but I actually value the opinions of random child care providers too.

Al Gore had lots of long-term scientific research too......................

[Meeko]

don't get discouraged by some of these posts.
Some people can argue about the color of the sky.

Just keep asking those good questions and chew the meat and spit out the bones..... those jagged, mean, critical,bones!
We are all friends here...right?

[Blackcat31]

THIS is the post I was referring to when it came to CIO.

As for long term effects of CIO, there have been many studies done on it. I won't lie, I'm an attached parent and the idea of CIO makes me furious.

I don't mean this with any disrespect because we are all free to raise our children as we see fit, but attached parenting and child care does not work very well together. Both concepts seem to be from completely different starting points....kwim?

I think AP is great but NOT for kids who have to be in group care. It just is not feasible. AP is awesome for mom's who are sahm's in my opinion.

FWIW~ I am NOT a fan of CIO either. I think parents have a reponsibility to their child, themselves and the provider to set routines and practices that are applicable in home AND child care. If they do things only one way (which doesn't always work in a childcare setting) then it isn't fair to the child or the provider.

[Crystal]

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrsp'slilpeeps
Just a bunch of mumbo jumbo if you ask me.


Crystal: Well, I'll take advice from experts who have conducted long-term scientific research over that of a random child care provider any day.


I agreed with some of the article, but I actually value the opinions of random child care providers too.

Al Gore had lots of long-term scientific research too......................

Oh, I value their opinions too. But not as much as I value what scientific evidence proves to me. And, not at all when they flat out refuse to believe that scientific research has disproven many of the old school ways of doing things and that old school is the only way to do things.

[Country Kids]

THIS is the post I was referring to when it came to CIO.

As for long term effects of CIO, there have been many studies done on it. I won't lie, I'm an attached parent and the idea of CIO makes me furious.

I think six months is the best time for them to start learning to get to sleep! Over holiday weekend I was with a six month old that the entire time I was there was not put down once!!!! We were at the house for 4 or 5 hours and the baby was put in a bouncy set and immediately started crying and was picked up right away. The baby only slept 10 min for the entire time we were there. My teenager was handed the baby and asked to walk the baby around because parents, grandparents, and everyone else was tired of walking the child.

Even my husband notice that the child wasn't put down when we were there. A child that age should be able to play, self soothe, and have some quiet time especially during the length of time.

[SilverSabre25]

Wow. I'm not sure who is arguing here.....the only thing I saw was the one post about CIO and then sahm got upset.....I really think the post from frgsonmysox was in response to wdmmoms post, not sahms? And, even if not, it was her opinion. I see from members here all the time that we should all be able to share our opinions without it being taken personally, and then, everyone always takes everything personally :confused:

Is it forum cycle time again ::

yes it is actually!

[Crystal]

yes it is actually!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Michelle]

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[SilverSabre25]

SAHM, I really think that crying like you describe is NOT "normal" colic and a cause needs investigated. I don't believe that babies cry just to cry--they scream like that because something is wrong and often that something is dietary. Really, really, it is. The age that these "colicky" babies tend to "outgrow" the colic probably coincides with the age that the infant's digestive system matures to the point of being able to tolerate the substance in question.

Other causes for colic might include sensory issues or other "hidden" things.

What does make this baby happy? Tummy pressure, swaddling, swinging, etc? Is he super spitty?

I want to help you--and that baby--I really do!

[mismatchedsocks]

THIS is the post I was referring to when it came to CIO.

As for long term effects of CIO, there have been many studies done on it. I won't lie, I'm an attached parent and the idea of CIO makes me furious.

Im very sorry that you dont agree with my post, and good thing your child is not attending my daycare then. This childs parents knows exactly what I am doing and they do it at night, because their former daycare provider held the child each and every time he slept, even when mom asked her not to. He is almost 7 months however. So CIO or getting used to another daycares procedures is what he is doing.

[AmandasFCC]

The article is a good one and for the most part I agree.

But there are times when you have done all you can. Baby is fed, diapered, clean, healthy, cuddled...he's just screaming....non-stop. There are times when you need to put the baby in the crib and walk away and breathe.

I am convinced we would have less shaken baby syndrome in this country if parents were not led to believe that if you put baby down for a split second you're a bad parent. Or that crying means you're doing something wrong.

As another poster said, we are told during training about shaken baby syndrome that it is OK to leave baby for a while and walk away.

Yeah I pretty much agree. If I hadn't let my daughter cry it out at 8 months old, I probably still wouldn't be sleeping a wink at night. My daughter is a wonderful, happy, well-adjusted 3 year old who now, after having had me at home with her for 3 years, happily hops into her daycare room and goes off to play with her new friends because I'm back at work. No one will ever convince me that letting her cry it out was dangerous or bad for her attachment.

As for what to do in this situation, that's tough. My dd used to cry even in her sling and I just had to deal with it to get anything done. Eventually she got used to it and settled beautifully and grew to love the sling. Maybe he just needs more time in it to get used to it? I dunno. I never had little little babies other than my own.