O...M...G....How Much Do You Hold Your Newborns?!

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  • Mandy_Jane
    Daycare.com Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 96

    #31
    Well, maybe you can see if the Dr. Brown bottles continue to work for him. Maybe he needs his formula changed too? If nothing seems to work after changing some things around, then I would just tell his parent's it's not going to work out . Although I do think he will eventually outgrow this crying stage and it may be sooner than later. But if he is really disrupting your day as much as you say he is, then you may have no other option. Good luck!

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    • SilverSabre25
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 7585

      #32
      The Dangers of CIO

      I think it sounds like his diet needs looked at. Does he stop crying if you hold him so you're putting pressure on his tummy? I bet he's got reflux and/or an allergy. Is he BF or FF?

      edit: Sahm, the article isn't directed at you, it's a general psa kinda thing
      Hee hee! Look, I have a signature!

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      • Crystal
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 4002

        #33
        Originally posted by sahm2three
        OMG! I NEVER said I let this child CIO. Where are you people reading this?!?!?!?! I said I have had to put him down and he has cried while he was put down, but this was only while we had to attend to other things! SHEESH. I would NEVER let a baby this young CIO.
        sahm, I think they were referring to wdmmom's post.

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        • dave4him
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Oct 2011
          • 1333

          #34
          you mean we can set them down?>
          "God said, ‘I have found David son of Jesse, a man after my own heart. He will do everything I want him to do.'"
          Acts 13:22

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          • sahm2three
            Daycare.com Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 1104

            #35
            Just forget it. I will just deal from now on. It is ridiculous that pretty much every time I post people read things that are not there. I NEVER said I did or could CIO with a newborn. I actually said I am not comfortable with letting a young baby cry. So I guess I will just keep things to myself and read posts but not contribute or vent or whatever. Ridiculous.

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            • Heidi
              Daycare.com Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 7121

              #36
              Originally posted by sahm2three
              OMG! I NEVER said I let this child CIO. Where are you people reading this?!?!?!?! I said I have had to put him down and he has cried while he was put down, but this was only while we had to attend to other things! SHEESH. I would NEVER let a baby this young CIO.
              Someone apparently jumped to conclusions!

              This is supposed to be a place you can come when you're frustrated!

              The first thing they teach you in Shaken Baby Prevention class is that BABIES CRY, and that sometimes there is nothing you can do. If you've done everything you can, it is sometimes best to walk away. Put the baby somewhere safe and walk away to take a breath.

              Just to be clear, I am in no way suggesting you would get so frustrated that you would do something drastic. I am making sure you know that I am backing you up. CIO was never mentioned in your post to begin with. You were clearly looking for support and ideas. Gosh!

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              • Crystal
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 4002

                #37
                Originally posted by SilverSabre25
                The Dangers of CIO

                I think it sounds like his diet needs looked at. Does he stop crying if you hold him so you're putting pressure on his tummy? I bet he's got reflux and/or an allergy. Is he BF or FF?

                edit: Sahm, the article isn't directed at you, it's a general psa kinda thing
                Thank you very much for sharing that article. I had not read it before. I have read on this forum about CIO techniques and am glad that you have produced some evidence that shows it is NOT okay to allow a baby to CIO.

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                • Crystal
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 4002

                  #38
                  Originally posted by sahm2three
                  Just forget it. I will just deal from now on. It is ridiculous that pretty much every time I post people read things that are not there. I NEVER said I did or could CIO with a newborn. I actually said I am not comfortable with letting a young baby cry. So I guess I will just keep things to myself and read posts but not contribute or vent or whatever. Ridiculous.
                  In case you didn't see my post, I think the CIO remark was in response to wdmmom's post:

                  wdmmom: I have a 3 month old that is colicky and is held...A LOT!

                  I only let her cry for 10 minutes at a time. She's gradually getting adjusted to our schedule at daycare. We try to only hold her during feedings, before naps and when were trying to console her.

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                  • MNMum
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 595

                    #39
                    Originally posted by sahm2three
                    Are you kidding? If I didn't have any empathy, I wouldn't have bothered posting anything! I would LOVE to just hold him all day long, but I CAN'T! How is that fair to the other kids in care?! We have not been able to do any Christmas projects because we have to constantly hold him and walk with him all day long. I am not kidding, all day long! If he were just content to sit in our laps or on our shoulder that would be one thing. But you have to constantly be bouncing and walking. That is what is hard, and yes, we have to lie him down and let him cry to attend to the other kids from time to time. I never said I laid him down and let him just cry or CIO. I wore my own kids. I tried my wrap and sling, which worked for all of my newborns. I am trying here. The reason I say he is spoiled is because the second he feels himself being lowered he starts crying. Not like spoiled like bratty, but spoiled like just totally used to being held.
                    If the new bottles don't do the trick, I would make sure you are honest
                    with this mother and make sure she understands how much work he is at daycare. I had a little guy several years ago that just wasn't daycare material. I had never had an experience of a baby I couldn't keep happy, so it took many months for me to realize I couldn't make this work. I just kept thinking, next week it will be better. When I finally went to mom and had a discussion to tell her I couldn't meet his excessive needs she was so mad and never spoke with me again! They had a nanny within days!
                    MnMum married to DH 9 years
                    Mum to Girl 21, Girl 18, Boy 14.5, Boy 11

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                    • Country Kids
                      Nature Lover
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 5051

                      #40
                      You never said anything about crying it out with this child. In fact just the opposite!!!! The person that start the whole cio thing, where did she pick up that is what you do?

                      I think everyone needs to slow down, wayyyyyyy down when reading posts and see what the person is saying. One person said something about cio and it ran like wildfire.

                      sahm2three didn't even say a thing about cio. She said she can't stand to let a baby cry!
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                      • mrsp'slilpeeps
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 607

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered
                        ANd this is why I am glad I live in Canada where the maternity leave is 50 weeks...it's also hard for a little one who is almost a year old but they are starting to be able to play and relate to other kids easier...the youngest that kids used to start here was 5 1/2 months and I lucked out with most of the babies I ever had here..they adjusted fairly quickly.

                        A baby that is 2 1/2 months old is probably needing his mommy! I couldn't imagine having a tiny baby here to look after with the other kids here too...I know that people have to work but imagine that poor little thing being thrust out into the world when he's barely com into it and hasn't even had time to adjust to being with his own parents...???
                        AMEN TO THAT. I would never leave my newborn baby at daycare. I think America needs to change alot of stuff. You couldnt pay me to live there.

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                        • mrsp'slilpeeps
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 607

                          #42
                          Originally posted by frgsonmysox
                          As a parent I'd be livid if a daycare worker let my child cry it out without my permission. Crying it out has long term consequences.
                          What long term consequences are we talking about? A frustrated provider or parent that has tried everything and looses thier patience and hurts the baby?

                          Or leaving a baby to figure out how to soothe themselves?

                          I dont get why we are constantly trying to keep these kids from having one ounce of emotion besides happiness. Let them cry. check on them, help soothe them, comfort them but for the love of god why do we constantly have to keep these kids entertained?

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                          • Crystal
                            Advanced Daycare.com Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 4002

                            #43
                            Originally posted by mrsp'slilpeeps
                            What long term consequences are we talking about? A frustrated provider or parent that has tried everything and looses thier patience and hurts the baby?

                            Or leaving a baby to figure out how to soothe themselves?

                            I dont get why we are constantly trying to keep these kids from having one ounce of emotion besides happiness. Let them cry. check on them, help soothe them, comfort them but for the love of god why do we constantly have to keep these kids entertained?
                            read the article that Silver linked to in her post above. good stuff

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                            • Meeko
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 4349

                              #44
                              The article is a good one and for the most part I agree.

                              But there are times when you have done all you can. Baby is fed, diapered, clean, healthy, cuddled...he's just screaming....non-stop. There are times when you need to put the baby in the crib and walk away and breathe.

                              I am convinced we would have less shaken baby syndrome in this country if parents were not led to believe that if you put baby down for a split second you're a bad parent. Or that crying means you're doing something wrong.

                              As another poster said, we are told during training about shaken baby syndrome that it is OK to leave baby for a while and walk away.

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                              • mrsp'slilpeeps
                                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                                • May 2011
                                • 607

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Crystal
                                read the article that Silver linked to in her post above. good stuff
                                Just a bunch of mumbo jumbo if you ask me.

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