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  • Lavender
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 195

    Originally posted by Crystal
    Yes, your opinion does matter

    The reason it is being so heatedly debated with OP is because of her stance on other threads related to breast feeding. And, some of us really are interested in the FACTS about breastfeeding while taking narcotics around the clock. That's all.
    Well the facts as I know them regarding breastmilk and certain narcotics as per numerous medical professionals is that it is safe and the benefits that breastmilk provide over formula is more important that the relatively safe minute amounts that cross over to the milk. HTH

    eta I was told that the blood pressure meds had more of an impact, but even that was considered to not be a risk. The mag. sulfate I was given prior to delivery had more of an impact on him than anything else, but again the benefits outweighed the risks for the choice to use that med.

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    • mamac
      Tantrum Negotiator
      • Jan 2013
      • 772

      Originally posted by frgsonmysox
      My stance on other threads about nursing being the best for your baby? Thats not a stance, it's a fact. I'm not what I've done or said to cause this to be so heated.
      I am not attacking you, but from what I see I think it is because you seem to take offense at anything that is said that goes against what you believe, whether it was directed toward you or not. Yes, this thread has centered around you, but the other BFing threads were not about you.

      Crystal wasn't attacking you when she replied to Lavender. All she did was mention the fact that your stance (belief, position) on the other threads, which is very opinionated and has every right to be, is the reason why this thread has gotten so heated. And the topic of the other threads isn't about breastfeeding nutrition. They are about covering/not covering up while breastfeeding in public.

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      • momofsix
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 1846

        Frgsonmysox. I may not (and do not ) agree with everything you say and do. But I DO think you are very knowledgeable about breastfeeding-and have probably done more homework on it than most of us here. I know that when I am truly passionate about something I might come across as condescending/thinking I'm better than those that don't think the way I do. I think most of us can come across this way when we're passionate about something-just because of the strong feelings we have.
        I think that you have made the best choice for you and your family, and it doesn't sound like you made your decision lightly.
        I also think it's wonderful that providers and parents on this forum can learn from you and your experiences, whether or not they agree. I also think there are those that don't want to learn and are simply trying to argue.
        I breastfed 3 of my 6 girls. I do think breast milk is better, but do I think I'm a bad mom for not nursing the other 3? Not at all. Formula is simply an other option for feeding our babies. I don't think you're calling me a bad mom for that either, and am not sure where others came up with that.

        Anyhow-didn't mean to start blabbing-I just wanted to say I think we're being a bit hard on frgsonmysox and I don't think she deserves the tough inquisition like questions and responses she's getting.

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        • bunnyslippers
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 987

          I will say this again, with the utmotrespect to everyone's beliefs and opinions.

          Breast feeding is great. Some women can't, for a multitude of reasons.

          The breast feeding is the "BEST" choice for babies attitude is unfair and discriminatory.

          If I had breast fed my children, they would have died. Their development has not been hindered by the use of formula. Please, do not make women who can't breast feed feel badly for that.

          Statements that relay the message "I breast fed and that is the best option for babies" or anything along those line can really offend and hurt women who did not or could not breast feed.

          We are all mothers, and we are all women who did what was best for our babies. My best is what I did. And I have amazing, healthy children. Being a rabid breast feeding advocate is hurtful and unnecessary.

          Remember that not everyone has the same health or constitution. Don't be mean.

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          • Unregistered

            Naturally breast feeding is the ideal nutrition for babies in most cases. For some like myself it just did not work out. I fully intended to, and knew it was the 'best' choice. When that choice was no longer an option I went with what I felt was the next best choice and pumped for nearly nine months. When my supply dwindled I moved onto formula. At the time I was very discouraged, now I'm just thankful we have so many options to pick from. If baby has a full tummy and is thriving & mommy is healthy and bonding with babe, then all is well.

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            • MotherNature
              Matilda Jane Addict
              • Feb 2013
              • 1120

              Just chiming in. Frogs, you've said things well & eloquently, as have some other commenters. I don't really have anything of value to add, but I definitely enjoy reading what you post, as our beliefs are extremely similar. For what it's worth, I don't think you were being condescending or a know-it-all at all. Granted, I get called those names as well, so that may not mean much, but just wanted you to know that I'm impressed with how you hold your own. I'm not one for conflict, especially because I get this righteous anger about things I'm passionate about that tends to make me less eloquent at times & frustrated. Anyway, have a great night!

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              • EntropyControlSpecialist
                Embracing the chaos.
                • Mar 2012
                • 7466

                Originally posted by MotherNature
                Just chiming in. Frogs, you've said things well & eloquently, as have some other commenters. I don't really have anything of value to add, but I definitely enjoy reading what you post, as our beliefs are extremely similar. For what it's worth, I don't think you were being condescending or a know-it-all at all. Granted, I get called those names as well, so that may not mean much, but just wanted you to know that I'm impressed with how you hold your own. I'm not one for conflict, especially because I get this righteous anger about things I'm passionate about that tends to make me less eloquent at times & frustrated. Anyway, have a great night!
                happyface

                Enjoying learning so much.

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                • Crystal
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 4002

                  Originally posted by MotherNature
                  Just chiming in. Frogs, you've said things well & eloquently, as have some other commenters. I don't really have anything of value to add, but I definitely enjoy reading what you post, as our beliefs are extremely similar. For what it's worth, I don't think you were being condescending or a know-it-all at all. Granted, I get called those names as well, so that may not mean much, but just wanted you to know that I'm impressed with how you hold your own. I'm not one for conflict, especially because I get this righteous anger about things I'm passionate about that tends to make me less eloquent at times & frustrated. Anyway, have a great night!
                  When did anyone call her condescending or a know-it-all? I thought this was pretty civil.

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                  • Blackcat31
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 36124

                    Originally posted by Crystal
                    When did anyone call her condescending or a know-it-all? I thought this was pretty civil.
                    I can't remember if it was this thread or one of the several others about this topic but yes, someone did post that they thought the two main players in this (Nan and Frogs) were coming across as condescending and/or "know-it-alls".

                    I don't remember who said though, but it was said somewhere along the lines.

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                    • Crystal
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 4002

                      Originally posted by Blackcat31
                      I can't remember if it was this thread or one of the several others about this topic but yes, someone did post that they thought the two main players in this (Nan and Frogs) were coming across as condescending and/or "know-it-alls".

                      I don't remember who said though, but it was said somewhere along the lines.
                      I must have missed it. Hard to keep up ::

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                      • Blackcat31
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 36124

                        Originally posted by Crystal
                        I must have missed it. Hard to keep up ::
                        Ya think?!?

                        I've been wracking my brain trying to come up with another controversial topic just to change the subject.

                        NOT because breast feeding isn't important but because you can only beat a dead horse for so long before it simply isn't productive anymore.

                        To date...I've received no less than 12 PM's asking if we can just lock the threads but I really don't see a reason to do so since everyone is staying pretty civil compared to other all out wars we've had here....

                        I guess people just need to stop clicking in to the thread if they don't want to read anymore.

                        So, what's the weather like where you are? ::

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                        • mamac
                          Tantrum Negotiator
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 772

                          Originally posted by Blackcat31
                          So, what's the weather like where you are? ::
                          Actually it's totally awesome today! It's supposed to reach 60!!! My boys are finally able to enjoy the weather. Woo-hoo!!!!!! happyfacehappyfacehappyface

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                          • Crystal
                            Advanced Daycare.com Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 4002

                            Originally posted by Blackcat31
                            Ya think?!?

                            I've been wracking my brain trying to come up with another controversial topic just to change the subject.

                            NOT because breast feeding isn't important but because you can only beat a dead horse for so long before it simply isn't productive anymore.

                            To date...I've received no less than 12 PM's asking if we can just lock the threads but I really don't see a reason to do so since everyone is staying pretty civil compared to other all out wars we've had here....

                            I guess people just need to stop clicking in to the thread if they don't want to read anymore.

                            So, what's the weather like where you are? ::
                            ::::::::

                            The weather is FAB-U-LOUS!!! Sunny and warm

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                            • MotherNature
                              Matilda Jane Addict
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 1120

                              Originally posted by Blackcat31
                              I can't remember if it was this thread or one of the several others about this topic but yes, someone did post that they thought the two main players in this (Nan and Frogs) were coming across as condescending and/or "know-it-alls".

                              I don't remember who said though, but it was said somewhere along the lines.
                              Yup, this ^ Thanks.

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                              • frgsonmysox
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 235

                                I don't mind changing the topic I just won't back down or anything when asked questions. I'm pretty open and honest about myself. I wrote a blog post once on my frustrations with this line of questioning, but since then I have just accepted it as much as I can.



                                People are going to be curious, and I'm cool with that. I just hope those that do it for the only reason of being a jerk understand that I am aware, and I try to not to play into it with emotions.

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