Soiled Underwear in Day Care Centers

[Blackcat31]

I work for the Y in Northern Canada. We ABSOLUTELY are not allowed to be putting any bodily fluids or waste in our sinks. I believe even bottles with breast milk can't be washed, (which I personally find silly.) It's a licensing standard not a centre policy.

I have two children in Care at this Centre. One who is 4 years old and a 21 month old. Though costs are high (over 1200 each) I would NEVER expect their teachers to rinse out their soiled underware. Never. They have a 1-6 ration or a 1-8 ratio. Being my laundress is not their job. Providing equal and adequate care to all children in their programs IS their jobs.

I also just dump poop in the toilet (actually I get the kids to put on rubber gloves and I get them to dump their poop out) then send the soiled panties/underwear home in a bag.

I was loving your whole post until I got to the last line and went . I am not sure what the laws are or aren't about that but for some reason that just doesn't sit right with me.

[C'est la vie.]

What?

I was loving your whole post until I got to the last line and went . I am not sure what the laws are or aren't about that but for some reason that just doesn't sit right with me.

Okay, I've registered now. Why do you have a problem with it? I'm not being mean or torturing the child. I'm getting him to help me clean up his poop. We both have gloves on. We don't degrade the children at all, but I believe that this child (who doesn't want to go pee or poop on the potty, but mom insists the daycare potty trains him) help to dump his poop out of his undies. This child is 3.5 and mom has insisted he move to 3-5 care, but he's not potty trained at home. He's coming along well now that he's finally with his peer group, but refused to poop on the potty. He'll hide and go in his shorts.

I walk with him to the potty. Tell him that poop goes IN the potty. Then we flip the poop out and flush it. Poop doesn't just magically disappear out of his shorts, he has to help dispose of it. What's wrong with that? And I'm sure there are no laws against getting kids to help clean up their messes.

[Candyland]

wow; there are over 3 pages on this post. I just read the last few posts and it's quite remarkable. I'll make it a point to read the first one this week!

[sillygoose16]

Accidents happen

Ok, so after reading all of these posts and looking up our states toiling policies (NJ) I agree that the soiled clothing should go into a bag and sent home for parents to clean.

But, today when picking up my child at 5:30 PM. I dropped her off at 8:00 AM. She had peed pants on and I was given a bag of soiled clothing. Ok so not a problem, accidents happen. I get home and we head straight for the potty to clean up and get a bath. I then notice my daughter is not wearing underwear. The note on the bag says that she had the accident at 10 AM. I'm pretty upset here. I think they should have called me to tell me she was out of supplies (pullups and/or undies) I always send them in when they tell me she needs them. And, I know she had a spare pare of undies in her book bag. I think it's disgusting to have to pick her up like that. The staff are not allowed to follow my almost 4 year old into the bathroom or help her wipe. I understand that. But, why didn't they contact me and say "by the way, sarah is out of such and such, can you possibly bring some by on your lunch hour" Her day care is well aware of the fact that I work 10 mins. away. It's 12:34 AM here and I've been worried sick about this because I know I'm going to go there tomorrow upset and wanting an answer.

Am I wrong to even think that i should have been notified? Should I keep sending her to school wearing a pullup? She was doing great the past couple of months and in the past week has had 4 accidents at school? I'm so lost

[youretooloud]

Ok, so after reading all of these posts and looking up our states toiling policies (NJ) I agree that the soiled clothing should go into a bag and sent home for parents to clean.

But, today when picking up my child at 5:30 PM. I dropped her off at 8:00 AM. She had peed pants on and I was given a bag of soiled clothing. Ok so not a problem, accidents happen. I get home and we head straight for the potty to clean up and get a bath. I then notice my daughter is not wearing underwear. The note on the bag says that she had the accident at 10 AM. I'm pretty upset here. I think they should have called me to tell me she was out of supplies (pullups and/or undies) I always send them in when they tell me she needs them. And, I know she had a spare pare of undies in her book bag. I think it's disgusting to have to pick her up like that. The staff are not allowed to follow my almost 4 year old into the bathroom or help her wipe. I understand that. But, why didn't they contact me and say "by the way, sarah is out of such and such, can you possibly bring some by on your lunch hour" Her day care is well aware of the fact that I work 10 mins. away. It's 12:34 AM here and I've been worried sick about this because I know I'm going to go there tomorrow upset and wanting an answer.

Am I wrong to even think that i should have been notified? Should I keep sending her to school wearing a pullup? She was doing great the past couple of months and in the past week has had 4 accidents at school? I'm so lost

Perhaps she dressed herself and the teacher wasn't aware that she was out of panties? I think they should have used a backup something...either a pullup, or panties. I bet they have something there. Especially if you are really good about bringing more supplies.

In most cases, parents do NOT want to be called at work for something minor like that. But, I do think they should have found her something else to wear.

You know what's saddest about that? That teachers are afraid of being accused of molesting kids, and are no longer allowed to help in the bathroom.

I've seen posts where a parent will ask "She has a rash, and redness in her privates... do you think the provider is molesting her?" Why is it the first thought? Why not "Oh, we must be using too much bubble bath in the tub".

[CheekyChick]

Just a few thoughts...

1. If your child was in cloth diapers - they would get sent home poop and all. No difference with panties.

2. If your child is still pooping in her panties, then she should still be in Pull-Ups.

3. Where do you expect the employees to wash her panties out? In the sink where the children wash their hands or the kitchen sink where food is prepared? I can't imagine that you would want them to put everyone's health at risk to clean out the panties.

I'm not trying to sound harsh, but I can't believe this would be an issue for someone to clean their own child's poopy panties out at home.

[sillygoose16]

Soiled underpants

After speaking with my childs teacher I was informed that the accident to which she had to panties to wear happened 10 mins. before I got there. I dont expect them to wash her soiled clothes. I'm ok with that coming home. I'm not ok picking her up with wet pants on and not wearing underpants. Thats just disgusting.

[CheekyChick]

After speaking with my childs teacher I was informed that the accident to which she had to panties to wear happened 10 mins. before I got there. I dont expect them to wash her soiled clothes. I'm ok with that coming home. I'm not ok picking her up with wet pants on and not wearing underpants. Thats just disgusting.

If I were you, I would put your daughter back in Pull-Ups until she is fully potty trained. This will help avoid the stress of cleaning out her soiled clothes at home. If that's not an option, I would send LOTS of panties/pants so she is never sent home without panties again. Since the staff isn't always telling you when she runs low, are you allowed to see her cubby so you can keep on top of what she needs?

[saved4always]

kpa0627 -

while it may be unsanitary to rinse in the sink, you can always put the underwear down in the toilet, and when you flush it, it usually takes off the feces and most of the mess from the underwear.

from there, you put it in a bag. there's no excuse for sending a turd home in a bag to someone who pays tons of money for you to care for their child.

I find your "tons of money" remark absolutely hysterical. I watch 3 kids, 2 part time and one almost full time. I make about $3.00 an hour before taxes. Yeah...that is "tons of money"...LOL! And there is NO WAY for that "tons of money", that I am going to allow any child to continuously have accidents in my home. I didn't allow my own kids to do that and they are all going to the bathroom just fine on thier own now.

[saved4always]

also, most of our forefathers and presidents you mentioned were indeed homeschooled because that was a way of life back then - some of the presidents you mentioned had very little education at all.

does that mean they weren't great people or good at what they did? absolutely not. the fact of the matter is, times have changed. our society values education. you couldn't find a president, a lawyer, or a teacher today that wasn't required to have a college education. back then, teachers were often teenagers. again, times have changed.

i think childcare workers are equally as important as the above mentioned - so why are the standards lower? that's my point.

If childcare workers were paid as much as degreed teachers, parents could not afford childcare. Most parents are sending their children to daycare because they cannot leave them alone at home when they go to work. They do not want to pay what it would cost if childcare workers were paid more than minumum wage. What is the incentive for childcare workers to get a college degree along with student loans, etc., just to graduate and make $7 or $8 an hour at a childcare center? I have been on both sides now. When I was working full time, we could only afford to pay so much for daycare before it was too expensive to be worth working. Now I provide childcare in my home and many parents, in my experience, do not want to pay top dollar for care. They do want one on one exceptional care for their $2 to $3 an hour though.

[Carsonsmom04]

Where I work, you can not rinse the undies out, because sinks in the bathroom are for washing hands ONLY! I simply dump the poo in the toliet, wipe it as much as possible with a baby wipe & bag it up. It's up to the parent whether they trash them or not. I as a parent do NOT want someone washing out dirty undies in the sink where my child washes his/her hands.

[shannon]

To those of you that keep repeating "..put the child back in pull-ups until they are completely potty trained..", I would really like to smack you over the head with a dirty pull up.
If you don't want to deal with feces, then I suggest you not to touch anything in a bathroom, go to a store and touch shopping carts, shelves, etc..., never ever go out to eat anywhere public, and never touch money. As a matter of fact, you might as well wrap yourself in a plastic bubble with a Lysol bomb.
And stop acting like parents who work complain just because they don't want to do laundry. No, what they don't want is to have to pay 1/4 th of their income to a day care provider on top of bills, rent, food and other nessecities, then have to go out and pay $6 to $10 a pack for underwear because they have to throw them away after a poop stain sets in.
Put on gloves, swirl the soiled underwear in a toilet, spray some laundry treatment or bleach on them, then bag them.
Don't like it? Then go flip burgers for minimum wage and complain because you have to deal with nasty kitchen duties all day. At least you would be getting paid more according to most of you.

[Cat Herder]

Yes. Having kids is expensive.

[daycare]

To those of you that keep repeating "..put the child back in pull-ups until they are completely potty trained..", I would really like to smack you over the head with a dirty pull up.
If you don't want to deal with feces, then I suggest you not to touch anything in a bathroom, go to a store and touch shopping carts, shelves, etc..., never ever go out to eat anywhere public, and never touch money. As a matter of fact, you might as well wrap yourself in a plastic bubble with a Lysol bomb.
And stop acting like parents who work complain just because they don't want to do laundry. No, what they don't want is to have to pay 1/4 th of their income to a day care provider on top of bills, rent, food and other nessecities, then have to go out and pay $6 to $10 a pack for underwear because they have to throw them away after a poop stain sets in.
Put on gloves, swirl the soiled underwear in a toilet, spray some laundry treatment or bleach on them, then bag them.
Don't like it? Then go flip burgers for minimum wage and complain because you have to deal with nasty kitchen duties all day. At least you would be getting paid more according to most of you.

I could care less if I got poop on me. and I hear what you are saying loud and clear, but what would you do if you had a child come to your house and poop their pants. Of course since you could not possibly keep your eyes on every single child 100% of the time, you more than likely won't see that little Joey pooped his pants and now it is all over your playroom, other kids in the daycare, toys, carpet, sofa, and on and on.

Would you like your kid to go to a place that allows that to happen? I don't really know too many parents that would allow or want their kid subjected to an environment that this would be allowed to happen.

And for the record, I do wash out undies that get poop on them. Kids can wear undies here during potty training, they just need to keep a pull up on over it to contain any accidents.....

I know it's hard for you to see this situation from a providers perspective because you are not one.....

[Checkinkids.com]

Catching Puke

Touch poop? I have actually seen my wife catch puke in her bare hands to keep it from going all over the place! That's being on the front lines. btw - she does wash poopy pants out - but it IS very disrespectful for parents to send kids that are not potty trained in regular undies.