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  • yuanyelss

    #91
    I've had many soiled pairs of underpants sent home with my children in plastic bags, but was never told it was the law that it be handled this way...
    Last edited by DCMomOf3; 02-28-2011, 07:08 PM.

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    • Unregistered

      #92
      Originally posted by nannyde
      If a kid poops their pants at my house they go back into diapers until they are accident free for two weeks. I don't deal with kids being pee trained but not poop trained. It has to be both.

      I don't have this happen but once every five-7 years or so. I don't switch kids out of diapers until I KNOW they are ready. They have to show me weeks of telling me they have to go before they have to go and doing both pee and poop before the unders come on.

      I am VERY strict about wearing protection until they are completely ready to go into undies. It's been three years since I've even had a pee accident here. It's been seven years since I've had a poop accident. I don't want my carpet ruined to save the parents a dollar or two in diapers a day and I won't pay for staff time to clean poopy underwear and clean up the kid.

      Sounds to me like the kid still isn't potty trained.

      I agree with Nannyde. I don't allow kids to wear cloth underwear until they are toilet trained with NO accidents for two FULL weeks (10 days) at my house. If they have an accident they go back in diapers and the two weeks starts over. I notify parents when they have completed the two weeks and can start wearing underwear.

      Look for underwear at garage sales. They don't cost that much. You have to remember that we have more than one kid to take care of and time cleaning pooped underwear means time away from other kids. I have 4 toilet training right now. I would spend my entire day cleaning underwear if I let them wear it until they were trained following the two week rule.

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      • Meeko
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 4349

        #93
        It's not just the "Eeww" factor.

        In my state, we are not allowed to "toilet swish" We are required to send it home for the parent. Health laws state that droplets even too microscopic to see or feel get airborn and the health risk is a concern. Feces is nasty stuff. On a changing table, with gloves on, it is more contained and less likely to be flying around. Rinsing/swishing etc. is more harmful. The health dept worry about hepatitis etc.

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        • QualiTcare
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 1502

          #94
          there's really no big risk by dumping a turd in the toilet which of course you'd also have gloves on for and putting the underwear straight into a plastic bag.

          i think it's funny that cloth diapers are such a big hit, but the thought of cleaning a turd from underwear is so disgusting.

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          • jen
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 1832

            #95
            Originally posted by QualiTcare
            there's really no big risk by dumping a turd in the toilet which of course you'd also have gloves on for and putting the underwear straight into a plastic bag.

            i think it's funny that cloth diapers are such a big hit, but the thought of cleaning a turd from underwear is so disgusting.
            I don't mind dumping poop in the potty...but in my experience, it isn't usually dumpable. It has been sat on, squised in, and requires a bit more effort than that. If I have a kid with that kind of accident, then of course I dump it and bag the undies. The rest of the time I throw the undies in the garbage.

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            • youretooloud
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 1955

              #96
              I don't rinse them either. It's no more gross for the parent to rinse them than it is for the provider to rinse them. Plus, a provider doesn't really have time to go stand over a toilet... rinse, then start a load of laundry to wash one pair of $1.50 panties.

              My daycare parents just throw them out. But, I still send them home.

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              • QualiTcare
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 1502

                #97
                nobody is saying they have to be washed, but to send a turd home in a plastic bag, wrapped in a pair of underwear is disgusting and i'll dare say stupid.

                first of all, if a child is having BMs so often in their underwear that it is a problem, the child shouldn't be wearing underwear. if you DO allow them to wear underwear (your choice) then you should be prepared to deal with the mess.

                if and when i had a child have an accident in their underwear (which was mostly when i worked in a center) i would simply put on gloves, shake the underwear over the toilet, rinse them - and then put them in a bag. what the parent does with them after that is up to them.

                as a parent, i would assume if i got a pair of underwear sent home in a bag that they were dirty (obviously) but i would never assume that there was a big turd still inside. if you have the balls to send someone a turd in a bag, then have the balls to tell them you threw their underwear in the trash. don't let them find out there was a turd in there when they open up what they think is the lid to a washing machine of CLEAN laundry.

                scenario - my child went to the same daycare where i worked and rarely had accidents - he was considered potty trained. one day he had TWO accidents in a row. after his second accident, i happened to overhear the "teacher" being hateful/frustrated when she was helping him in the bathroom. luckily, i was there so i stepped in. i didn't work in the same room, but right beside it. he had another accident at home THAT night (again, so very out of character) so the next day at daycare/work i made sure to tell the lady who was being a witch when cleaning up his mess the previous day to PLEASE let me know if he had an accident OR send him over TO ME so that i could clean it up. i HATE HATE HATE for little children to sense anger and frustration when they have accidents - ESPECIALLY if it's not the norm. since it was MY child, of course i was sincere when i said "send him over to me if he has an accident."

                well, the day went by - no problems. i assumed all was well. i got off work, went to get my child, checked his cubby, and i'll be damned if there wasn't a bag of underwear in there. i asked his teacher/my co-worker, "why didn't you send him to me?! i told you i'd clean him up! i think something might be wrong...you know this isn't normal, etc., etc." she just laughed it off - no big deal, etc.

                i go home, carry everything inside, throw the bag in the laundry room and go back to it a few mins later. i know it was poopy underwear, but considering i always rinsed them out and they had been rinsed out the day before - i didn't think to open them up and look - so imagine my surprise when i opened up my laundry to find POOP! seriously? i tell you to let me clean up my kid which you don't do, and then you have the audacity to shrug it off at the end of the day when i ask why you didn't without mentioning that there's a turd in a bag?

                come to find out - he was having accidents due to medical reasons. he was so constipated (not my fault bc of diet or anything else) that he developed a hydrocele which had to be surgically removed (see below).


                Hydrocele
                Processus vaginalis; Patent processus vaginalis
                Last reviewed: December 15, 2010.

                A hydrocele is a fluid-filled sack along the spermatic cord within the scrotum.

                Causes, incidence, and risk factors
                Hydroceles are common in newborn infants.

                During normal development, the testicles descend down a tube from the abdomen into the scrotum. Hydroceles result when this tube fails to close. Fluid drains from the abdomen through the open tube. The fluid builds up in the scrotum, where it becomes trapped. This causes the scrotum to become swollen.

                Hydroceles normally go away a few months after birth, but their appearance may worry new parents. Occasionally, a hydrocele may be associated with an inguinal hernia.

                Hydroceles may also be caused by inflammation or injury of the testicle or epididymis, or by fluid or blood blockage within the spermatic cord. This type of hydrocele is more common in older men.




                ....so what would happen is he would feel like he had to go all the time, but couldn't - and it got to where when he really DID have to go, he didn't know. then, after he did pass the hard stool from constipation - soft stool would follow bc he was backed up. he wasn't being lazy and it wasn't bc he "shouldn't be in underwear" - he had to have SURGERY bc of a real problem.

                point being - just because a mother chooses to WASH dirty underwear whether it be pee, poop, or BLOOD as we're all familiar with doesn't make them cheap nor nasty. if you DON'T want to clean dirty underwear then at least see if the parents want you to throw them away (which i'm sure they would if they know there's going to be an 8 hour long dried turd in them) OR put the kids back in diapers if it's an ongoing problem. either way - to think there's something "wrong" with a parent who thinks you should shake a turd in the toilet before bagging the superman undies is a little ridiculous coming from childcare providers IMO. kids, poop, gloves, big deal!

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                • bigmama

                  #98
                  poop in undies

                  i won`t wash out undies i talked to parents and i throw them away a couple weeks ago a boy pooped his underwear so bad (he was doing it for a hour) i had to throw away everthing his underwear,pants,shirt,socks,shoes,cot,blanket,and teddy bear

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                  • bigmama

                    #99
                    why

                    Originally posted by Chickenhauler
                    I honestly don't see the big difference between rinsing out some poo and changing a filthy diaper.

                    If a little poo skeeves out a DC provider that badly, then they're in the wrong business.

                    To the lady who was throwing rinsed underwear in the trash because "I'm not putting that in my washer", I hope her husband never eats Chili or Brats and Kraut.
                    why ", I hope her husband never eats Chili or Brats and Kraut

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                    • Hunni Bee
                      False Sense Of Authority
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 2397

                      Originally posted by bigmama
                      i won`t wash out undies i talked to parents and i throw them away a couple weeks ago a boy pooped his underwear so bad (he was doing it for a hour) i had to throw away everthing his underwear,pants,shirt,socks,shoes,cot,blanket,and teddy bear
                      Im sorry, I dont understand how he could be pooping on himself for an hour at daycare, and no one noticed it or cleaned him up. Because you said you had to throw out his cot and blanket, I assume it was during naptime, so maybe he did it in his sleep?? :confused:...It kind of sounds like he was left to poop on himself for an hour...maybe its just the way it was worded.

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                      • normad

                        personally i think its actually for hygienic purposes why they have such law since there are many other kids in the day care that would have to be taken care off, it is best to keep yourself as clean as possible at all times to prevent probably transfer of microorganisms that may be present in poo. Its not to exaggerate but we can never be too safe when it comes to handling children since some are really sensitive

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                        • daycare
                          Advanced Daycare.com *********
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 16259



                          how did this get pulled back up again...wow what a lot of crazy reading...But it was good entertainment while I waited to see the doctor..

                          All that I can say is no matter educated a person is..........there is one thing that can not be taught and that is LOVE........you can have all the education in the world and NOT know how to love ...... To me, Love is the number one thing that makes us all great providers regardless of our education or where we came from...........

                          Ok I'm done....

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                          • MyAngels
                            Member
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 4217

                            Originally posted by daycare
                            how did this get pulled back up again...wow what a lot of crazy reading...But it was good entertainment while I waited to see the doctor..

                            All that I can say is no matter educated a person is..........there is one thing that can not be taught and that is LOVE........you can have all the education in the world and NOT know how to love ...... To me, Love is the number one thing that makes us all great providers regardless of our education or where we came from...........

                            Ok I'm done....
                            The first thing I thought of when I glanced back to see how long this thread has been going is "this is the song that never ends, it just goes on and on my friends..."

                            Oops, I think I just dated myself ::!

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                            • Unregistered

                              Originally posted by GretasLittleFriends
                              The dad just kind of blew it off. I'm not sure if he reprimanded the child at home. It seems to me that the children aren't the top most wrung on the father's ladder of priorities though. To make things more fun, mom's not actively in the pic either.
                              Why should a child be reprimanded for pooping his pants? Accidents happen. No need in shaming the boy. Obviously he was embarrassed and was uncomfortable to let you know. You were in tears because he was all over your house and you had to sanitize and clean up a big mess? I would be in tears because I let a child have soiled pants on for 4 to 6 hours and not catch it. From snack until 8 was the first time you were close enough to him to smell it? I also would have felt like **** because the child didn't trust me enough to tell me. I know children hide stuff, but they are open to those they trust, feel loved by, and safe around.

                              Trust me when I see that a child had diarrhea and it leaked out of their diaper and clothes on to the floor, I'm hating the fact I have to wash everything. But these are the things children do. I **** it up, put on my big girl pants on and do my job. Just because you may not say anything directly to the child they read your body language, facial expressions, and the tone of your voice. More than likely he knew you were pissed and angry. He knew that every child their knew that they were strapped to chairs for how ever long because he pooped his pants. I know that it law that old people in nursing homes that have accidents are to be treated confidentiality and respect. Don't children deserve the same?
                              I'm not registered my name is Sara Walley from WI.

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                              • Unregistered

                                Nope

                                I work for the Y in Northern Canada. We ABSOLUTELY are not allowed to be putting any bodily fluids or waste in our sinks. I believe even bottles with breast milk can't be washed, (which I personally find silly.) It's a licensing standard not a centre policy.

                                I have two children in Care at this Centre. One who is 4 years old and a 21 month old. Though costs are high (over 1200 each) I would NEVER expect their teachers to rinse out their soiled underware. Never. They have a 1-6 ration or a 1-8 ratio. Being my laundress is not their job. Providing equal and adequate care to all children in their programs IS their jobs.

                                I also just dump poop in the toilet (actually I get the kids to put on rubber gloves and I get them to dump their poop out) then send the soiled panties/underwear home in a bag.

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