Operating an Unlicensed Daycare

[Unregistered]

Unlicensed Care

Running an unlicensed daycare does typically say "the type of care you do provide". If it is a state law that you MUST be licensed to run a daycare in your state, then you SHOULD be LICENSED. If you can break that law, what other laws could you be breaking??? It is not difficult to get daycare licensing. The law is there for a reason. It is to govern daycare providers so that they follow the rules and regulations for that business. The state has this law so that in case there is a problem with the care your child(ren) are receiving in a daycare, it can be handled. I myself, as a parent DO WANT A LICENSED DAYARE PROVIDER FOR MY CHILDREN. I am willing to pay the going rate or more for a licensed daycare provider just for the peace of mind of knowing that that provider and whoever is in her household that will be around my children have a complete criminal background check for the safety of my children. Why would anyone put their childs safety or life in someone else's hand without checking them out first. Being a licensed daycare provider, I at least know that the place has to be inspected for safety and that there will be random unnotified inspections that the provider will receive as well as having to go to classes to update her knowledge as being a daycare provider; such as CPR, First Aid, how to discipline, ect. And by the way, what reason would you not have as to getting licensed? Do you not want to claim your income at tax time? Wake up people, there alot of crazy nuts out there as it is, why would you even think about risking the safety of your child. I am not saying that all unlicensed daycare providers are this way but what is the downfall in NOT BEING LICENSED? Besides, being a licensed daycare provider will get you more business. When parents are looking for daycare they usually call the state licensing office for a list of providers in their area. And to be on the side of the licensed providers, I give them much credit for dealing with the crap that they have to go through in order to be a LIGITIMATE LICENSED DAYCARE PROVIDER. My neighbor is also a non-licensed daycare provider and it erks me to no end that she provides daycare to other peoples children when she neglects the 3 kids she has (ages 10, 6, ans 3). I can say this because she pawns her kids as well as her daycare kids off in my yard so that they can play with my children and I end up watching them so that they don't get hurt, while she sits on her A** all day with her husband (who doesn't work because he was fired for watching **** on the computer at his job). This is one of those reasons why I say GET A LICENSED DAYCARE PROVIDER so that everyone that is around your children can be checked out. Better to be safe then sorry. Your child only has 1 life!!! A caring mother in Laurel, Delaware.

I'm new to day care and no I am not licensed, nor do I plan to get licensed. And I certainly don't believe that a license has anything to do with the quality of care I will provide. I watch one child now, just one day a week. I am hoping to take in 2 children maximum because I believe in nurturing and teaching, not simply keeping children safe. I have two of my own and I feel that any more than 4 would compromise my ability to provide the type of care that I want to provide, though i realize it will limit my income. Do I believe there are sub-standard unlicensed providers. CERTAINLY. Just as I believe there are sub-standard licensed providers. Does anyone really believe that every licensed provider follows all the rules and if they ever break one they will absolutely get caught? That's like saying everyone with a drivers license follows every traffic law and if they ever speed they are certain to get ticketed. I can assure you based on my husband's driving that is not accurate.
I'm confused by the animosity towards those of us who opt not get licensed. As far as I'm concerned, it's a personal decision. If parents opt to forego my service due to a lack of license, that's their choice and I'm okay with that. Why does that bother people?
Also, I don't understand the basis for the assertion that an unlicensed provider doesn't pay taxes. I have a FEIN and report my income. The license has nothing to do with that.

[Unregistered]

"People need to mind there business. If she is not bothering you, then why are you worried. Let that woman make her money. If she was abusing or neglecting the children, nobody would have anything to say. That's what is wrong with the world today, people report the wrong things."

First of all, get yourself a spellchecker.....it's THEIR not THERE. Further, unlicensed daycare cast a pall upon all the good care providers out there that follow the law. What's wrong with the world is people like you that think only certain laws and statutes are important. Operating an unlicensed day care is the equivalent of operating a restaurant without the proper safety and cleanliness guidelines. If the woman wants to "make her money" then let her comply with the same statutes and laws that licensed day care facilities must abide by.

Just because they are licensed doesnt mean they are good providers. The daycare provider that "accidently" sufficated one of her daycare children was a licensed provider. He wouldnt lay still at naptime so she put her casted foot on him. He died she didnt realize it till after naptime was over and he never got up. They said she didnt mean to kill him so ops she got off easy and now she has a daycare again. And if u havent noticed most of the licensed daycare providers are very expensive. Also if its a church or big corporate daycare they are 25% or higher than normal daycares. One near me I calculated made $12000 a month minimum thats over $600000 a year. they are considered nonprofit too. In the area where i live, that is a lot. Their prices are almost too much to afford. I know with my job I would pay them more for daycare than i make a week. thats sad. And with 4-c funds down theres no hope. the only hope i have is unlicensed providers.

[tinytotzdaycare]

I am in Iowa and you only have to be registered when you have 6 or more children, this includes your own that are NOT school age.

[Unregistered]

Non licensed Daycare

Some people cannot afford a licensed daycare. And most parents are not going to leave their kids with someone they do not know. So most likely the daycare provider is trusted and is known by the parent very well. I think people need to mind their own business too! Obviously, if you are be this nosey, maybe you need to get a job, or possible another job to keep you busier. Not everyone appeciates the licensed daycare setting! Not everyone can afford the licensed daycare setting. I was babysat by a wonderful older lady with other kids, she was a grandma, and great great role model. I ran in the green grass, climbed the apple trees, ran through the corn stalks, played with the rabbits they were raising, and ate fresh eggs, great homemade food! That was in the 70's. But, I think we need to get back to the basics. Everything in life should not be controlled by the government. Life was so much simpler when I was a little girl. I would rather my kids be able to be running outside playing with frogs, chasing butterflies and eating homemade food, then stuck in a daycare with the same routine everyday, and eating mac and chees, hotdogs, etc. Yes, I know that daycare teaches them allot of things for school, but non-licensed daycares can teach these things too!

[Unregistered]

spellchecker!

"People need to mind there business. If she is not bothering you, then why are you worried. Let that woman make her money. If she was abusing or neglecting the children, nobody would have anything to say. That's what is wrong with the world today, people report the wrong things."

First of all, get yourself a spellchecker.....it's THEIR not THERE. Further, unlicensed daycare cast a pall upon all the good care providers out there that follow the law. What's wrong with the world is people like you that think only certain laws and statutes are important. Operating an unlicensed day care is the equivalent of operating a restaurant without the proper safety and cleanliness guidelines. If the woman wants to "make her money" then let her comply with the same statutes and laws that licensed day care facilities must abide by.

You need to not be so critical! Too many laws, do not equal democracy! It equals the government running our so called free lives. If we as parents find someone that we trust, and have known for a long time, and know that the home is clean, and that our kids will be fed well and taken care of well, then we should be able to decide who watches our children. A stuffy ol' daycare with allot of kids running around with snotty noses, is not what I call clean! If you want everyone to bring their kids to a licensed daycare, then the prices need to drop. Because, if I had the option of a close friend or family watching my kids for less money. You know, that I will take my kids to the friend or family. And that should be up to the parent!

[Unregistered]

I think it is such crap that people don't know how to mind their own business. If your concerns are whether or not the place is safe...what draws you to that conclusion? I agree if the place seems very filthy, dirty, a dump, etc. Though if you can see there is no cause for concern. Mind your own business!!! The parents who put their kids there are the ones who have determined that that is the place for their kids. Are you saying the parents are not being parents? Are they not capable of making a decision for themselves where their children should be? MIND YOUR BUSINESS!

[jen]

Here is my big question...

Parents are well aware of whether or not their daycare is licensed or not. They chose a provider, they like him/her, like the way he/she cares for the kids...why is it anyone elses business?

Personally, I don't really need the governement to "help" me make decisions for my kids! Before I became a provider, a neighbor who was unlicensed cared for my son and I LOVED her!

That said, of course everyone needs to pay income taxes. Although, as a licensed provider, I've never had to pay in a cent. IF you do, you aint' doing it right!

[Unregistered]

TLC Child Care

Yes, you should care. If that person is running an unlicensed daycare, they most likely won't be following safety guidelines either. In this day and age, unfortunately, people are really messed up. If you have concerns. Call. The authorities would much rather check it out and it be fine then you not call and the children be not taken care of properly, or worse.

Please....what makes you think she needs to become a licensed child care provider to take of children in her home. It is not legal to take care of children in your home. I am a licensed child care provider and I have many friends and relatives who are not licesed and they are wonderful. Never judge a book by its cover?

[Unregistered]

I think the whole thing is crazy! In some states you can care for 5 kids without a license, where as in others only 2. So government gets to determine that the children in Iowa get to play with 4 friends where as the children in NY only get to play with 1 friend if they go to a provider that is unlicensed? The same thing with childcare ratios.

In some states 1:4 Infant ratios go until 18 or 24 months, while in others it stops at 12 months and jumps to 1:7. Who decided that the children who live in the states that jump to 1:7 ratios at 12 months need less attention that those who live in another state and get to keep their 1:4 ratio for an extra 6 months or a year?

[Unregistered]

I'll tell what makes it my business.....i have to pay taxes on my earnings. This daycare providers income is hers!!!!!!!!!! She drives a new car (a charger). I guess it pays well. That along with all the welfare she qualifies for because her income is not reported.....yeah, it makes me mad as hell!!!!!!!!!!

I want to respond to the comment you made. Not all daycare providers are like this lady. I run a daycare and I pay my taxes.

[Unregistered]

Unlicensed rules

Rules to operating a licensed day care can be found at http://ohiochildcare.org

[melissa ann]

I have been doing childcare since March 2008. I am not licensed. However, I do pay taxes on that income and also take deductions. In my state, I can watch 3 children w/o being licensed. For me, I felt like that was a good number to watch w/o being too stressed out. With 3, I can give them proper one on one time plus they can play together w/o too much fighting and such. For me, it's not all about the $. It's giving proper care and attention to the children.

[mac60]

Rules to operating a licensed day care can be found at http://ohiochildcare.org

Like I have said before, the rules and regulations are so rediculous. Some of these items listed are just stupid for lack of better words.

[Chickenhauler]

Like I have said before, the rules and regulations are so rediculous. Some of these items listed are just stupid for lack of better words.

Name some that you find stupid.

The irony is, that in one post, you will complain about how parents are crappy parents and don't even bother to dress their kids properly for the conditions, but then say how it's the parent's responsibility to insure that their daycare is safe.

For all the checks and inspections we have gone through with the county, we'd spend 6-8 hours going through the house, and several weeks waiting on the background checks that each family would perform when they enroll.

[seashell]

Name some that you find stupid.

The irony is, that in one post, you will complain about how parents are crappy parents and don't even bother to dress their kids properly for the conditions, but then say how it's the parent's responsibility to insure that their daycare is safe.

For all the checks and inspections we have gone through with the county, we'd spend 6-8 hours going through the house, and several weeks waiting on the background checks that each family would perform when they enroll.

Stupid rule 1 - We need to have thermometers on the wall in each room occupied by the children at their hight, (3 feet max hight) to measure the temperature. Excuse me? Do you know how hard it is to keep the kids from pulling a glass and mercury thermometer off the wall and chewing on it? I tried hiding them behind the furniture. No deal. They have to be in clear sight. Is the temp that much cooler than it would be 2 feet higher?

Stupid rule 2 - Doors must be labled with exit signs. First of all, this is my home. Second of all, the kids can't read. 3rd if I don't know where the doors are in my own home, I'm in big trouble!

Stupid rule 3 - Cleaning supplies can not be kept in rooms occupied by the children. So how the hell am I supposed to disinfect the diaper table after use if I can't keep the solution near the changing table?

Stupid rule 4 - Trash cans can be no more than half full. Great, so I should leave the kids alone to take out the trash half way through the day? The cans have covers on them. Who gives a damn how much is in the can if the kids can't get at it?

Stupid rule 5 - Children must wear shoes and sox at all times. Yeah, you tell that to the 10 month old baby who is facinated with pulling them off or the 3 year olds who like to show off their painted toe nails.

Stupid rule 6 - My 17 year old son can't have friends over after school because they count toward my ratio?

Chickenhauler, why can't you just agree to disagree? It's a matter of personal opinion. I think your crazy for being licensed and you think Im crazy for not being licensed. Fine. It's a matter of opinion here based upon experience.

I respect your opinions on most matters, but you really seem to have it in for those of us who think the government is to involved.