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  • Cat Herder
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 13744

    #61
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    For those of you who care, the book "Finding Your Smile Again" is a great one on burnout.
    Challenge accepted, Thanks. It will be here by weeks end.

    These are ones I personally enjoyed and recommend....

    Standardized Childhood

    Einstein never used Flashcards

    A Mothers Job; The History of Daycare 1890-1960

    Bridging the Gap Between Theory, Research and Practice; The Role of Child Development Laboratory Programs in Early Childhood Education

    The Art of Leadership

    Harvest for Hope

    Children First

    All fascinating, useful, and pertinent reading....
    - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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    • jen
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 1832

      #62
      I just looked up "Finding Your Smile Again" on amazon. It's a Redleaf Press book with just one review. Perhaps our anonymous poster is simply trying to drum up business for the book...Author?

      If so, not the way to do it...in fact, if you aren't the author or his wife, I would hazzard to guess that they would appreciate it if you DIDN'T suggest their book. You are too much of a dividing force to be useful.

      Whatever your original intent was, you failed miserably. It's sad really, you may have had useful information, the book may have been wonderful, but since you chose such a tactless way to approach the group, your message has been lost in the shuffle.

      You should seek out some training on inter-personal skills. For someone working as a mediator, your poor communication techniques frighten me!

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      • youretooloud
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 1955

        #63
        Originally posted by jen
        . For someone working as a mediator, your poor communication techniques frighten me!
        Me too! I was thinking it would be unfortunate to have such a negative person "training" me.
        Last edited by Michael; 03-13-2011, 02:49 PM.

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        • MommyMuffin
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 860

          #64
          Originally posted by morgan24
          Thanks for the advice on the book "Finding Your Smile Again" but it's not needed because I never misplaced it, because I come here and get support or they let me vent my anger without judging, from my great provider friends.
          If there was a like button...I would push it!

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          • jen
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 1832

            #65
            Originally posted by Unregistered
            I have worked as a teacher for years and now I work with providers because I earned an advanced degree and wanted to provide help to providers. I provide home support to them which means going in at naptime and assisting them in solving problems. My job is to mediate between the state and providers and provide them with support.
            I can't speak for the r&r agency that referred one of your members. I certainly wouldn't do that.
            R&R,

            I believe that this is you. It appears that you are putting yourself out there as a childcare/child development expert. As such, I think it would be great if you provided us with some information on your background.

            1. You mention you have worked as a teacher for "years now."

            How many years?
            In what venue?
            Have you aquired licensure?

            2. I have never heard anyone who is working on their master's use the terminology advanced degree...generally people are more specific...which makes me wonder...What advanced degree are you speaking of? An undergrad degree is generally not thought of as "advanced."

            I don't want to insult you, but really, if you want credibility, providing more information might be useful. At this point, you are coming across as very young and very inexperienced. If I had to guess, I would say that you are in your early 20's, that you worked in a daycare center before getting an AA degree in child development and are now very newly working for the R&R.


            I know that your intentions are good. I can see that. When we are young, it is really easy to believe that we have all the answers, but unfortunately, the real world is far more complicated. This forum may be a great place for you to gain some of that experience second hand. I hope you stick around and listen and learn. I'm sure you will have a lot of valuable information to share as well. However, may I suggest that you share your ideas in a more tactful way. At this point, you are comging across as disrespectful and condescending, attributes that are not only unbecoming, but hinder your ability to get your message out there.

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            • SilverSabre25
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2010
              • 7585

              #66
              Originally posted by jen
              R&R,

              I believe that this is you. It appears that you are putting yourself out there as a childcare/child development expert. As such, I think it would be great if you provided us with some information on your background.

              1. You mention you have worked as a teacher for "years now."

              How many years?
              In what venue?
              Have you aquired licensure?

              2. I have never heard anyone who is working on their master's use the terminology advanced degree...generally people are more specific...which makes me wonder...What advanced degree are you speaking of? An undergrad degree is generally not thought of as "advanced."

              I don't want to insult you, but really, if you want credibility, providing more information might be useful. At this point, you are coming across as very young and very inexperienced. If I had to guess, I would say that you are in your early 20's, that you worked in a daycare center before getting an AA degree in child development and are now very newly working for the R&R.


              I know that your intentions are good. I can see that. When we are young, it is really easy to believe that we have all the answers, but unfortunately, the real world is far more complicated. This forum may be a great place for you to gain some of that experience second hand. I hope you stick around and listen and learn. I'm sure you will have a lot of valuable information to share as well. However, may I suggest that you share your ideas in a more tactful way. At this point, you are comging across as disrespectful and condescending, attributes that are not only unbecoming, but hinder your ability to get your message out there.
              Ditto all of this.

              All the education in the world is great, but until you combine it with real-world experience in the specific area, you aren't really ready to be teaching the information to others. The fact of the matter is that what you learned in the classroom will NOT work for every situation in the "real world". Kids are not cookies; they are individuals and the cookie-cutter solutions that are presented as "ideal" are NOT ideal for every child, every situation, or every program.

              (I have a Bachelor's Degree in Early Childhood Development and Education, completed all my needed pre-requisites to enter the Master's of Education program even though I chose to put that on hold for now, have a 3 year old daughter, and have done extensive reading on my own into child development and educational methods such as Reggio Emilia and Montessori. I have been doing home daycare for 14 months.)
              Hee hee! Look, I have a signature!

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              • Unregistered

                #67
                Just an opinion

                OP, did it never cross your mind that sometimes in order to do our jobs well, we providers need to have a sounding board for those days when it seems that everything is going wrong? I would think that venting here about child behavior/parent behavior, etc. beats telling off the parents that are making the provider angry, and it certainly beats hurting the feelings of daycare kids by telling them how mad the provider is at them for pooping on the floor or peeing their pants. Nothing good ever comes of things like that and nothing good ever comes from keeping all of these feelings inside for the provider! Consider that before you come down on providers for being unprofessional or a bad provider.

                OP, it is my hope that you can re-examine what a daycare provider's daily schedule is like and how hard her job can be. Sometimes all it takes to throw a day completely off is one temper tantrum or one instance of the provider being treated with disrespect and before you know it, the whole day has the potential to be a disaster. It's important for providers to have SAFE places to go in order to get things off their chest so that they don't have to carry the burden of feeling angry, unappreciated, disrespected, frustrated and pretty much every other negative feeling that we can have. Sometimes all that a provider wants is to be heard without being judged, and your post is the kind that takes that feeling of security away from the providers who are feeling low. They know that you'll flame them so they'll keep it all inside. Many of us have spouses and friends that we could talk to, but maybe I'm alone on this, but I really can't talk about any provider related frustrations with them because they can't relate to what I am feeling. The people on this site can relate and for the most part, they offer either helpful advice or they just listen.

                My daddy taught me as a child that if I didn't have anything nice to say, then it was best not to speak at all. OP, you could benefit from that lesson.

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                • dEHmom
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 2355

                  #68
                  While I do agree many use this site negatively, sometimes the negativity on here is very uplifting.



                  This is the WWW, and people who are not smart enough to know good advice from bad advice likely wouldn't be in childcare for long.

                  It is not easy. It's not like you can just have kids walk in in the morning, sit down in front of a tv for the whole day, and then leave all happy and have parents actually drop them off again in the morning.

                  It's not fair to say that for those of us who have crappy parents to deal with, that because they do something we should terminate them. Should we kick Billy out of our program just because he wiped snot on Sally? OR should we seek advice from co workers, because lets face it, that's what we all are on here, and find a proper solution? A way to say "Billy please don't wipe snot on Sally again" and have him actually listen?



                  p.s. many of the posters state they prefer not to give unregistered users the time of day. One simple way to stop this crap and let these trolls threads disappear is to simply NOT RESPOND. Start your own thread on what was said if you like. But don't give the people not willing to register the satisfaction of reading the responses and getting the reactions.

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                  • daycare
                    Advanced Daycare.com *********
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 16259

                    #69
                    Originally posted by dEHmom
                    While I do agree many use this site negatively, sometimes the negativity on here is very uplifting.



                    This is the WWW, and people who are not smart enough to know good advice from bad advice likely wouldn't be in childcare for long.

                    It is not easy. It's not like you can just have kids walk in in the morning, sit down in front of a tv for the whole day, and then leave all happy and have parents actually drop them off again in the morning.

                    It's not fair to say that for those of us who have crappy parents to deal with, that because they do something we should terminate them. Should we kick Billy out of our program just because he wiped snot on Sally? OR should we seek advice from co workers, because lets face it, that's what we all are on here, and find a proper solution? A way to say "Billy please don't wipe snot on Sally again" and have him actually listen?



                    p.s. many of the posters state they prefer not to give unregistered users the time of day. One simple way to stop this crap and let these trolls threads disappear is to simply NOT RESPOND. Start your own thread on what was said if you like. But don't give the people not willing to register the satisfaction of reading the responses and getting the reactions.
                    how about we dont let the unregistered even post anything.......

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                    • dEHmom
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 2355

                      #70
                      Originally posted by daycare
                      how about we dont let the unregistered even post anything.......
                      while I would agree to this, there are times where us regular registered posters do need to sign out for privacy reasons.

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                      • DCMomOf3
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 1246

                        #71
                        lets stop picking on unregistered, now R&R. I think she makes some valid points and reading her posts she is not a troll and is really an advocate for the kids, even if you don't agree with her, her opinions, or her advice.

                        lets breathe and give her a chance.

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                        • daycare
                          Advanced Daycare.com *********
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 16259

                          #72
                          Originally posted by dEHmom
                          while I would agree to this, there are times where us regular registered posters do need to sign out for privacy reasons.
                          oh yeah huh....l GREAT POINT!!!

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                          • daycare
                            Advanced Daycare.com *********
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 16259

                            #73
                            Sorry I was not picking on anyone, I am just taken back by some of the responses.. and If I were making responses like that I would want someone to give me a clue....(gosh why do I feel like I'm in grade school getting sent to the principal’s office....) I was too harsh and didn't mean to be...

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                            • Cat Herder
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 13744

                              #74
                              Originally posted by DCMomOf3
                              lets stop picking on unregistered, now R&R. I think she makes some valid points and reading her posts she is not a troll and is really an advocate for the kids, even if you don't agree with her, her opinions, or her advice.

                              lets breathe and give her a chance.
                              Will do!
                              - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                              • dEHmom
                                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 2355

                                #75
                                I think it's an initiation??? . I think lots of us aren't careful with our first few posts and jump in with opinions rather than facts????

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