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  • Crystal
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 4002

    #16
    Originally posted by QualiTcare
    you might want to be thankful that she wandered through your home and WOKE YOU UP when you were supposed to be working. SHE had to be at work and has paid YOU to watch her child so that she doesn't have to be late or call in.

    (for the record, this OP hasn't responded so we don't KNOW that this parent didn't try to call also)

    it would take ONCE for me to go to daycare to find it empty before terminating. however, if i had the NERVE to walk in through an unlocked door and look around for the person i paid to keep my child - and i found them so no harm was done - i wouldn't think it was too big of a deal.

    i'm sure she's told people the story and everyone is saying "are you serious? she was in BED and you had to wake her up?!"
    I TOTALLY agree.

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    • squareone
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 302

      #17
      OMG, what did she say when she saw you???????

      As a provider I think the parent was out of line. She has no business in any part of your home that is not a designated daycare area. She should have called out to you from downstairs and if you didn't answer she should have called your house from her cell phone. If she doesn't have a cell phone then she should have done the same thing she would have done if she had arrived at a center and found that it was closed. I would be irate if my privacy was invaded like this. I wonder how long she waited before she went searching around your house?

      As a parent, I would have been extremely annoyed that you were were not awake and ready to receive my child when I arrived. However, as long as the incident didn't make me late for work that day, and it had never happened before, I wouldn't have been TOO upset. I might have even been able to laugh it off by pick-up time.

      I am sure that it won't ever happen again but hopefully you had a talk with her about what she should do if it does.

      P.S. Start locking your doors.

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      • QualiTcare
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 1502

        #18
        once again, we don't know that this parent didn't knock, yell, or try to call before looking for the provider.

        the statement "she should've done the same thing she would've done if she had arrived at a center" is a little contradictory. if i arrived at a center, i would walk in the door - and if i didn't see anyone - i would most certainly walk around looking and that includes in the bathrooms - who KNOWS why on earth someone who is getting PAID to be at WORK is unresponsive.

        i think it's funny - child care providers want to be seen as "professionals" until they don't want to be and then it's "this is my HOME!"

        think about it from a parent's point of view who has given you a check and has to be at work in ten minutes while you're in BED.

        not to mention - everyone gets in a tizzy if a daycare parent is running late and doesn't call - but a provider being in bed is "understandable" since it's not the norm. wow.

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        • Live and Learn
          Daycare.com Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 956

          #19
          Originally posted by QualiTcare
          you might want to be thankful that she wandered through your home and WOKE YOU UP when you were supposed to be working. SHE had to be at work and has paid YOU to watch her child so that she doesn't have to be late or call in.

          (for the record, this OP hasn't responded so we don't KNOW that this parent didn't try to call also)

          it would take ONCE for me to go to daycare to find it empty before terminating. however, if i had the NERVE to walk in through an unlocked door and look around for the person i paid to keep my child - and i found them so no harm was done - i wouldn't think it was too big of a deal.

          i'm sure she's told people the story and everyone is saying "are you serious? she was in BED and you had to wake her up?!"

          I agree!

          I don't have parents pick up late and have NEVER slept in on a daycare day....
          sometimes I wonder if the parents who admit to over sleeping occasionally are the same providers whose parents pick up late occasionally.

          I don't know but I wonder if a parent sees the provider not respecting the drop off time then maybe they think it is OK for them to pick up late....
          I don't know ......just thinking out loud.....I mean thinking on the keyboard!::

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          • QualiTcare
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 1502

            #20
            Originally posted by Live and Learn
            I agree!

            I don't have parents pick up late and have NEVER slept in on a daycare day....
            sometimes I wonder if the parents who admit to over sleeping occasionally are the same providers whose parents pick up late occasionally.

            I don't know but I wonder if a parent sees the provider not respecting the drop off time then maybe they think it is OK for them to pick up late....
            I don't know ......just thinking out loud.....I mean thinking on the keyboard!::
            ::

            i know one thing - i work in a "professional environment" and i'd be shocked to death and embarrassed if my manager showed up in my bedroom to wake me up AND on top of that i got no pay deduction! ::

            that'll be a cold day in hell - i'd be fired in a heartbeat if i wasn't awake and ready - no phonecall, no knocking, no yelling required. period.

            like i said - childcare providers don't want to be treated any differently until they want to be treated differently.

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            • Unregistered

              #21
              Originally posted by squareone
              OMG, what did she say when she saw you???????

              As a provider I think the parent was out of line. She has no business in any part of your home that is not a designated daycare area. She should have called out to you from downstairs and if you didn't answer she should have called your house from her cell phone. If she doesn't have a cell phone then she should have done the same thing she would have done if she had arrived at a center and found that it was closed. I would be irate if my privacy was invaded like this. I wonder how long she waited before she went searching around your house?

              As a parent, I would have been extremely annoyed that you were were not awake and ready to receive my child when I arrived. However, as long as the incident didn't make me late for work that day, and it had never happened before, I wouldn't have been TOO upset. I might have even been able to laugh it off by pick-up time.

              I am sure that it won't ever happen again but hopefully you had a talk with her about what she should do if it does.

              P.S. Start locking your doors.
              I totally agree with this to a T!


              A parent has absolutely NO right to enter an undesignated child care area and search for me. However, I can understand that she searched the downstairs area, but feel that she was completely out of line when she walked up your stairs and started opening doors. I am so curious to hear what she said when she saw you in bed. :laugh:

              Now as a parent... if I were in this situation and found that my child’s daycare provider was not there to greet me, I'd start knocking hard or ringing the door bell a million times, and then yell her name. If that didn't work I'd call her, and if that didn't work then I'd probably call her again and leave a message on her phone and then leave. I would never search through someone’s house. I have an open door policy too, but that doesn't mean that parents can go wondering around my house in undesignated areas WITHOUT my permission. When the provider called me back to apologize because she over slept, then I'd either make a decision and find a new provider or make her reimburse me for that day since I now had to either find alternate care for my child or take the day off work.

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              • littlemissmuffet
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 2194

                #22
                I've got to say I'm a little but disturbed by the whole parents have "no right to" this and that and such. First, these people TRUST you enough to look after their most precious possesions - their children - and you don't TRUST them enough to be in an "undesignated child care area" looking for you when you should have been awake and ready for work in the first place? ::

                As a provider, my home doubles as a second home for other people's children - the children are welcome to pretty much every area of my home - this is what I signed up for when opening a daycare in my home - and likewise, their parents are welcome to and in all areas of my home as well if a cicumstance calls for it - in my opinion this is a circumstance that called for it. My family and I wouldn't even have this large beautiful home and all the nice things in it without the income that these children's parents create for me - I couldn't imagine being so hostile!!

                As a parent, I'd rather be embarassed by finding a sleeping DCP than to leave and later find out my DCP was suffering a stroke or some other horrific incident that I could have helped with if that were the case for the MIA DCP.

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                • Unregistered

                  #23
                  No this mom did not try to call me on my phone at all. She terminated the next day with and refused to give her notice. I slept in once in years, I felt bad yes but my alarm was set just didn't go off...I'm sure others have slept in once in a while for work too.

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                  • nannyde
                    All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 7320

                    #24
                    Originally posted by littlemissmuffet
                    I've got to say I'm a little but disturbed by the whole parents have "no right to" this and that and such. First, these people TRUST you enough to look after their most precious possesions - their children - and you don't TRUST them enough to be in an "undesignated child care area" looking for you when you should have been awake and ready for work in the first place? ::

                    As a provider, my home doubles as a second home for other people's children - the children are welcome to pretty much every area of my home - this is what I signed up for when opening a daycare in my home - and likewise, their parents are welcome to and in all areas of my home as well if a cicumstance calls for it - in my opinion this is a circumstance that called for it. My family and I wouldn't even have this large beautiful home and all the nice things in it without the income that these children's parents create for me - I couldn't imagine being so hostile!!

                    As a parent, I'd rather be embarassed by finding a sleeping DCP than to leave and later find out my DCP was suffering a stroke or some other horrific incident that I could have helped with if that were the case for the MIA DCP.
                    Wow

                    A parent trusts us with their most "prized possession" and that inately makes them trustworthy enough to go thru our home without permission?

                    Just because someone has sex, conceives a child, gives birth to a child and pays for child care services does NOT mean they are trustworthy people. More than half of our prison population are parents. That's a REDICULOUS notion.

                    So if you take your kid to a Pediatrician and find the lights off, doors unlocked, and no one at the front office does that give you the right to walk thru their building unattended? Afterall that Doctor takes care of your CHILD'S health. You have a RIGHT to go into their business when nobody is to be seen from the front door?

                    My home is my home. I don't even TRY to duplicate the child's home. I don't allow my clients unfettered access to everything and all areas of my home. I only allow the children in the areas of my business for them. Even when they are in those areas they are supervised. Nobody except my own child gets to go from room to room without supervision.

                    The Mom had the option to go back to her car and leave. She could have called the provider non stop or waited outside in the driveway until the provider was knowingly available. If she was fearing the providers safety she could have called 911. She had a LOT of options and she choose to go thru the providers home instead.

                    Yes waiting would have likely caused her to be late to work. If that was the case then the provider will either loose a client or loose a clients trust that she is dependable. That would me MUCH more realistic and appropriate than walking thru her home just because her kids were scheduled to use her services that one day.

                    I leave my doors locked. I don't even pretend to have an "open door policy" that would entitle a parent to walk thru my darkened house into my bedroom.
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                    • kendallina
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 1660

                      #25
                      I have a very open door policy and am extremely welcoming to my families. I host events at my house and they have all seen most of my house.

                      But, I do NOT think it's okay for a parent to walk into a provider's bedroom, knowing that she might be asleep in there. Under no circumstances is that appropriate. Over-sleeping on a daycare parent is not okay either, but this parent handled it wrong. I don't think that the parent would have been out of line to walk in the house and start calling the provider's name; or even knocking on her bedroom door...but to open her door!!! Yikes! Not appropriate in any way!

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                      • Unregistered

                        #26
                        Originally posted by littlemissmuffet
                        I've got to say I'm a little but disturbed by the whole parents have "no right to" this and that and such. First, these people TRUST you enough to look after their most precious possesions - their children - and you don't TRUST them enough to be in an "undesignated child care area" looking for you when you should have been awake and ready for work in the first place? ::

                        As a provider, my home doubles as a second home for other people's children - the children are welcome to pretty much every area of my home - this is what I signed up for when opening a daycare in my home - and likewise, their parents are welcome to and in all areas of my home as well if a cicumstance calls for it - in my opinion this is a circumstance that called for it. My family and I wouldn't even have this large beautiful home and all the nice things in it without the income that these children's parents create for me - I couldn't imagine being so hostile!!

                        As a parent, I'd rather be embarassed by finding a sleeping DCP than to leave and later find out my DCP was suffering a stroke or some other horrific incident that I could have helped with if that were the case for the MIA DCP.


                        So you think it's perfectly normal and appropriate for a parent to just openly walk up your stairs and into your bedrooms looking for you? I have an open door policy myself, but I find that to be a little odd. Shame on me if I were to over sleep when dck's are due to arrive, but again, a parent has NO RIGHT to take it upon themselves and roam freely through my home.


                        Originally posted by nannyde
                        Wow

                        A parent trusts us with their most "prized possession" and that inately makes them trustworthy enough to go thru our home without permission?

                        Just because someone has sex, conceives a child, gives birth to a child and pays for child care services does NOT mean they are trustworthy people. More than half of our prison population are parents. That's a REDICULOUS notion.

                        So if you take your kid to a Pediatrician and find the lights off, doors unlocked, and no one at the front office does that give you the right to walk thru their building unattended? Afterall that Doctor takes care of your CHILD'S health. You have a RIGHT to go into their business when nobody is to be seen from the front door?

                        My home is my home. I don't even TRY to duplicate the child's home. I don't allow my clients unfettered access to everything and all areas of my home. I only allow the children in the areas of my business for them. Even when they are in those areas they are supervised. Nobody except my own child gets to go from room to room without supervision.

                        The Mom had the option to go back to her car and leave. She could have called the provider non stop or waited outside in the driveway until the provider was knowingly available. If she was fearing the providers safety she could have called 911. She had a LOT of options and she choose to go thru the providers home instead.

                        Yes waiting would have likely caused her to be late to work. If that was the case then the provider will either loose a client or loose a clients trust that she is dependable. That would me MUCH more realistic and appropriate than walking thru her home just because her kids were scheduled to use her services that one day.

                        I leave my doors locked. I don't even pretend to have an "open door policy" that would entitle a parent to walk thru my darkened house into my bedroom.

                        I agree with your post nannyde!!

                        Originally posted by nannyde
                        If that was the case then the provider will either loose a client or loose a clients trust that she is dependable. That would me MUCH more realistic and appropriate than walking thru her home just because her kids were scheduled to use her services that one day.

                        This is EXACTLY what I would expect from my dcp's if I were to sleep in... NOT to just walk through my home.

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                        • LindaMJ

                          #27
                          I slept in for the first time in years two weeks ago and was shocked at what happened. My husband had already left for work so the side door was unlocked. My daycare parents always knock and walk into my porch area for pick ups and drop offs. That morning a daycare mom came with her two and half year old son and did what she typically would do, knocked and walked into the porch area. When I did not come to the door though she proceeded to wander through my home looking for me until she found me in bed sleeping. I was just completely shocked. I felt really bad for sleeping in but I honestly do not think that this lady had a right to be wandering around my house either. I hold an open door policy when a client's child is in my care, not when I do not have the child yet. Plus my daycare is run downstairs and my upstairs is suppose to be our private home. How would you feel if one of your daycare parents did this?I, as a parent, would be concerned about YOUR well-being. I, as a provider, would welcome this "intrusion", just to be sure there wasn't some medical emergency, for instance, if I hit my head falling in the shower or walking down the stairs, or whatever.

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                          • littlemissmuffet
                            Advanced Daycare.com Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 2194

                            #28
                            Originally posted by nannyde
                            Wow

                            A parent trusts us with their most "prized possession" and that inately makes them trustworthy enough to go thru our home without permission?

                            Just because someone has sex, conceives a child, gives birth to a child and pays for child care services does NOT mean they are trustworthy people. More than half of our prison population are parents. That's a REDICULOUS notion.

                            So if you take your kid to a Pediatrician and find the lights off, doors unlocked, and no one at the front office does that give you the right to walk thru their building unattended? Afterall that Doctor takes care of your CHILD'S health. You have a RIGHT to go into their business when nobody is to be seen from the front door?

                            My home is my home. I don't even TRY to duplicate the child's home. I don't allow my clients unfettered access to everything and all areas of my home. I only allow the children in the areas of my business for them. Even when they are in those areas they are supervised. Nobody except my own child gets to go from room to room without supervision.

                            The Mom had the option to go back to her car and leave. She could have called the provider non stop or waited outside in the driveway until the provider was knowingly available. If she was fearing the providers safety she could have called 911. She had a LOT of options and she choose to go thru the providers home instead.

                            Yes waiting would have likely caused her to be late to work. If that was the case then the provider will either loose a client or loose a clients trust that she is dependable. That would me MUCH more realistic and appropriate than walking thru her home just because her kids were scheduled to use her services that one day.

                            I leave my doors locked. I don't even pretend to have an "open door policy" that would entitle a parent to walk thru my darkened house into my bedroom.
                            And that works for you. In my opinion, I think some of the ways you operate your daycare are unorthadox and too strict - again, your ways work for you. I trust my parents enough that no, it wouldn't bother me if they were in my home, looking for me as I slept in - our daycare family is an extension of our own family. I am sorry that you cannot have that.

                            Your best friend, brother, your own mother could be untrustworthy without you knowing (theives, etc) and I'm sure you wouldn't act this way towards them.

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                            • jen
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 1832

                              #29
                              Originally posted by littlemissmuffet
                              And that works for you. In my opinion, I think some of the ways you operate your daycare are unorthadox and too strict - again, your ways work for you. I trust my parents enough that no, it wouldn't bother me if they were in my home, looking for me as I slept in - our daycare family is an extension of our own family. I am sorry that you cannot have that.

                              Your best friend, brother, your own mother could be untrustworthy without you knowing (theives, etc) and I'm sure you wouldn't act this way towards them.
                              LOL...I'd be pissed if my best friend, brother or mother came in to my house and walked in to my bedroom while I was sleeping! Everyone is entitled to a little personal privacy! Yikes!

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                              • littlemissmuffet
                                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 2194

                                #30
                                Originally posted by jen
                                LOL...I'd be pissed if my best friend, brother or mother came in to my house and walked in to my bedroom while I was sleeping! Everyone is entitled to a little personal privacy! Yikes!
                                I wouldn't be pissed
                                Sure everyone is entitled to a little personal privacy... everyone also has different personal boundries!

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