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  • Unregistered

    #31
    Update

    I have not heard anything from licensor or CPS. Could be it wasn't sent over for action or they have not got to it.
    Yesterday, was yet another attempted incident-within 2 hours of being awake. I terminated family with 2 work days notice and written plan child will not play in centers with others, for the protection of everyone. Only group play I can shadow.
    I believe this behaivor is all based on challenge of getting away with something. I once again referred to be evaluated by professional for the oppositional behaivor to see if it's within normal levels or he needs some help to be successful.
    I recommened he have a nanny at home rest of year vs daycare setting.
    Mom text last night and said they absolutely don't trust anyone in their home. This made me angry. I feel like if you would trust your kids with someone, you best trust them with your replaceable belongings, judgment I know but I feel pretty angry.
    He is going to go to another place and they probably won't warn the daycare. So they potentialy will go through this headache. I am not sure I want to be in business anymore. I love do many parts of my job but there is so much stress from things like this.

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    • Thriftylady
      Daycare.com Member
      • Aug 2014
      • 5884

      #32
      I would have felt forced to term as well. Please don't take it personally, or as something against your business. I understand what you mean about the not trusting someone in their home thing. But as providers sometimes all we can do is our best and what we think is right.

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      • Unregistered

        #33
        Update-Pure venting

        Awwww thanks Thriftylady.

        To clarify. I recommended they use a nanny in home till this challenging behavior passes. I think sending to another daycare without warning them is wrong.

        She was saying they don't trust a nanny or anyone in their home. I feel like this, my daycare is separate from my home but I leave a lot of personal information on my desk, cash etc out. If I can't trust my employees then I sure the hell shouldn't trust with my business or someone kids. So the parents should feel like they are trusting their kids with someone that they would trust in their home. Just my view.


        From here on-it's pure venting, I am so angry
        I do take it personal. I had them 4 years. Since the child was 3 months. I will never understand how we can give so much to people and then when it ends they get all pissed. This is not my first termination, I had many the first few years. I won't care for a child that I don't feel is the best fit, it is unfair to them. Almost every family has come back and either thanked me or just acted like nothing happened and stay in touch.
        This child has been a challenge of one thing after another for 3 years. I have spent a lot of money on extra staffing just for him trying to help him work through things. I have home and drank wine, and shed some tears over this kid more than once.

        I terminated with the tone of what is best for the child, not hey your kid is trouble your on your own. I also offered a personal note, along with my official termination, saying please understand this is hard for me too but we will get this figured out together.

        I am not able to care for the kids, partner with the families year after year but keep emotions out of it. I know some can and I admire it.

        Them leaving is hard, though a bit relieving in some ways. Them not showing today (I open at 6 for them. Next kid isn't till 8. Is rude, disrespectful and makes me expect some serious backlash. I emailed my licensor to let her know in case they make a false complaint.

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        • MarinaVanessa
          Family Childcare Home
          • Jan 2010
          • 7211

          #34
          I think you did the right thing. I think that offering daycare in our homes is difficult because this is our home and even though it's better to keep things all business it's difficult to do that. This is still our home and we have so much to lose.

          Many parents see us only as "babysitters" yet they want the world without thinking about the needs of the group as a whole. Chalk it up to a bad experience and move on. lovethis

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          • Thriftylady
            Daycare.com Member
            • Aug 2014
            • 5884

            #35
            Yeah I knew what you were saying about the nanny. And I understand what you are saying about the next daycare. But you can't control that and have to let it go. What she probably really meant is that they won't pay the money for a nanny, and they won't disclose because they are afraid they won't find care.

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            • Unregistered

              #36
              Originally posted by Thriftylady
              Okay that is different to me. Reporting it to licensing is one thing. Calling CPS over small things is what bothers me. I still think that reporting normal sexual stuff (that usually isn't sexual at that age) is overboard.

              A lot overboard imo. I would be livid if I were the parent, and as always if there is a child/parent that isn't fitting into the group it's better to terminate if you aren't getting anywhere. How I would have handled it.

              Over time I have read some posts on here where the provider calls cps etc. on their client for car seats, or child curiosity..etc. and then in other posts the same ones complain how hard it is to get kids. Ya think??! Aside from that, you are burdening cps when there are real issues going on with abuse etc. and doing that to a family is a very serious thing and in this case imo unwarranted.

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              • LysesKids
                Daycare.com Member
                • May 2014
                • 2836

                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered
                A lot overboard imo. I would be livid if I were the parent, and as always if there is a child/parent that isn't fitting into the group it's better to terminate if you aren't getting anywhere. How I would have handled it.

                Over time I have read some posts on here where the provider calls cps etc. on their client for car seats, or child curiosity..etc. and then in other posts the same ones complain how hard it is to get kids. Ya think??! Aside from that, you are burdening cps when there are real issues going on with abuse etc. and doing that to a family is a very serious thing and in this case imo unwarranted.
                The car seat thing is a state mandate for all providers regardless... it's the law that we call if a child is put in a dangerous situation otherwise we risk loosing our business & in some states, we could risk loosing our own children during an investigation if we don't report something we question (doesn't have to be verified, but suspected)

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                • ColorfulSunburst
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 649

                  #38
                  My opinion: the boy founds a way to get as much attention as he wants. Who is a winner in this situation? The boy.

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                  • Unregistered

                    #39
                    Yep, negative attention is better then no attention.

                    And if it gets to the point I have to call cps on one of my clients they will be long gone beforehand.

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                    • ColorfulSunburst
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 649

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered
                      Yep, negative attention is better then no attention.
                      No. For a child no attention is better then negative attention. But they need attention and understand very fast that they can get negative attention faster then earn positive attention. Just because for adults it is more simple to give negative attention then find a way to give a positive attention.

                      If you try to find a reason to give him a lot of positive attention and ignore his "doctor activities" there is a big chance that he will stop to try to get attention in his negative way.

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