Why Do They Always Call Them Daycare Providers?

[Heidi]

http://www.news8000.com/news/wis-daycare-provider-charged-with-injuring-baby/24913996

Here is what I posted when I shared this on FB. I wonder if I will educate even one parent about illegal providers?

This woman is not regulated, and presumably has no early childhood training. I would bet money, once this is investigated, that she has umpteen number of kids in her care illegally and no training in how to deal with a group of children.

Sorry, but I get a little bent out shape when the newspaper calls someone who does this a "daycare provider". 95% if these cases are always illegal providers. It's very frustrating for those of us who work so hard to follow the 750 + licensing regs. and subject ourselves to spot inspections regularly.

[melilley]

That bothers me too.

Recently, someone on CL has been posting info on how it's illegal to have a daycare in your home without a license. It gives so much info and tells parents where to look for legal providers and also a website to go to. I think it's awesome!

I honestly think that a lot of parents don't know the laws for childcare providers. I'm not saying non-licensed providers are in the wrong, it's the illegal providers (I know some states allow providers to care for a certain number of children w/o a registration or license).

[Play Care]

http://www.news8000.com/news/wis-day...-baby/24913996

Here is what I posted when I shared this on FB. I wonder if I will educate even one parent about illegal providers?

This woman is not regulated, and presumably has no early childhood training. I would bet money, once this is investigated, that she has umpteen number of kids in her care illegally and no training in how to deal with a group of children.

Sorry, but I get a little bent out shape when the newspaper calls someone who does this a "daycare provider". 95% if these cases are always illegal providers. It's very frustrating for those of us who work so hard to follow the 750 + licensing regs. and subject ourselves to spot inspections regularly.

This is one of my pet peeves. A Day Care, IMHO, is a place that is licensed and regulated to care for children. If they are not, it's not a Day Care. It's like a tax guy calling himself a CPA even if he hasn't passed the test necessary to be one. He may offer similar services, but he is not a CPA...

[Blackcat31]

This is one of my pet peeves. A Day Care, IMHO, is a place that is licensed and regulated to care for children. If they are not, it's not a Day Care. It's like a tax guy calling himself a CPA even if he hasn't passed the test necessary to be one. He may offer similar services, but he is not a CPA...

(NOT singling you out personally.... your comment just made me think)

.....but in this same line of thinking, how come so many providers then want to be called a teacher when they haven't taken any tests saying they are....

[Christina72684]

(NOT singling you out personally.... your comment just made me think)

.....but in this same line of thinking, how come so many providers then want to be called a teacher when they haven't taken any tests saying they are....

I like being called a provider better than a teacher because I don't only teach the children, I also provide them love and nurture them, as well as change their diapers and wipe their snot

[Play Care]

(NOT singling you out personally.... your comment just made me think)

.....but in this same line of thinking, how come so many providers then want to be called a teacher when they haven't taken any tests saying they are....

Hehe, I am with you on that! A family member referred to me as a teacher and I said "I am a licensed day care provider, thankyouverymuch"::

That said, I somewhat mis-typed, because I meant to say if a tax professional was arrested the media would not refer to them as a CPA (unless of course he was one.)

[racemom]

(NOT singling you out personally.... your comment just made me think)

.....but in this same line of thinking, how come so many providers then want to be called a teacher when they haven't taken any tests saying they are....

I feel the same way about being called a teacher but our state requires us to be called teachers if we meet state training requirements. That way they can regulate who is in the rooms. You have to have their training requirements to be a non certified teacher and then you can be with children alone.

[SilverSabre25]

I'm legally unlicensed. Am I a daycare provider?

[Blackcat31]

I like being called a provider better than a teacher because I don't only teach the children, I also provide them love and nurture them, as well as change their diapers and wipe their snot

Yes! We do soooo much more than simply teach.

Although provider sounds better than "professional diaper changer" or "professional snot ****er" ::

Hehe, I am with you on that! A family member referred to me as a teacher and I said "I am a licensed day care provider, thankyouverymuch"::

That said, I somewhat mis-typed, because I meant to say if a tax professional was arrested the media would not refer to them as a CPA (unless of course he was one.)

I do have the license to teach but HATE being called one because too many parents get it in their heads then that I am responsible for making sure Little Jimmy is proficient in algebra before sending him off to Kindy...

My kids are fully prepared for Kindy...just not always the way parents eem to think they should be.

[mountainside13]

I'm legally unlicensed. Am I a daycare provider?

Me too! I am legally unlicensed currently. I follow all the rules not because I have to but because I want to! I still feel as thou I am a daycare provider.

I do agree on illegal "daycare operators"

[Play Care]

Donning my flame proof suit::

I believe the term "Day Care Provider" should be used to designate those people/programs that meet state licensing requirements. I have to deal with pop in visits/inspections, take so many hours of continuing education, modify my home to deal with ever increasing regulations, etc.

For me, it is simply a naming issue and has NOTHING to do with quality of care (as we all know some excellent babysitters and some really crappy licensed care givers) I also do not believe that day care providers should be calling themselves "teachers" unless they hold current certification to do so and are actually spending time teaching.

FWIW, if I could be legally unlicensed in my state and care for more than two children at a time, I would happily call myself a babysitter.

[butterfly]

I may get flamed, but I do agree that she is a "daycare provider". She isn't any good at it, apparently, but she is providing care...

But I'm also in the boat of providers who don't really care if I'm called a "babysitter" either.

Tomato, Tamato...

[Heidi]

I'm legally unlicensed. Am I a daycare provider?

Yes! Sorry, I did not mean to offend you.

I guess I would just like them to say something like "There is no record of Ms. So-and-so being regulated by the state". It's just that the papers NEVER point that out. The provider could literally have 15 or 18 kids there illegally, and it is never, ever brought up.

[SilverSabre25]

Yes! Sorry, I did not mean to offend you.

I guess I would just like them to say something like "There is no record of Ms. So-and-so being regulated by the state". It's just that the papers NEVER point that out. The provider could literally have 15 or 18 kids there illegally, and it is never, ever brought up.

Yes, but I'll give you 100:1 odds that the journalists neither know, nor care, about the details or the ins and outs of our business. We don't know theirs, after all. Furthermore, i bet that 99% of their readers neither know, nor care, the details of the daycare world.

If "we" (in general) are going to fight for the respect to be called daycare providers rather than babysitters, than the term is going to be misapplied.

And I wasn't offended I like to play devil's advocate.

[SilverSabre25]

Donning my flame proof suit::

I believe the term "Day Care Provider" should be used to designate those people/programs that meet state licensing requirements. I have to deal with pop in visits/inspections, take so many hours of continuing education, modify my home to deal with ever increasing regulations, etc.

For me, it is simply a naming issue and has NOTHING to do with quality of care (as we all know some excellent babysitters and some really crappy licensed care givers) I also do not believe that day care providers should be calling themselves "teachers" unless they hold current certification to do so and are actually spending time teaching.

FWIW, if I could be legally unlicensed in my state and care for more than two children at a time, I would happily call myself a babysitter.

I *do* meet state licensing requirements though. I can care for up to six children, no more than 3 under age 2, and my own kids count until I am six. I can do this without a license. That *is* meeting state requirements.

I go above and beyond of course, but I *do* meet those minimum requirements.