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I agree....
My start up in this house was pretty expensive but that was because I had to have a whole home filtration unit installed (I have a spring fed well), full fence installed and septic tank inspection before I was able to keep my full load of kids. All required for licensure.
In the last 3 houses (all new construction) it only cost me $50 per year.
***Now, my out of pocket "training" cost is up to $400 so far this year... Restocking art supplies, curriculum, replacing toys and updating furniture/cribs/equipment have me at about $2500 this year as well.
Maybe some of that cost is what she is referring to?- Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.
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I am sorry you are stressed about this but honestly, you ARE doing something you aren't suppose to do.....being good at it has NOTHING to do with whether your city, county, state or whatever allows you to do it.
My advice would be to see if there are any alternatives to providing care in your home, such as renting a space somewhere or working in a center or something similar.
I understand that you are devastated but again, laws are laws and we can't just go against them because we feel we are good at what we do or because parents say you are great at watching/caring for their children.
You were basically told to stop the first time you were turned in so you DO know better....unfortunately, your neighbor had every right to turn you in, if you still continued to provide care for more than 3 children.
I wish I had better advice, but I don't.
Again, I am sorry this happened to you. :hug:
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I thought that too.... and it still may very well be the case but I guess the words "Not only would they not let me get a group home license "they denied me to even get a regular license." says to me that she never had a regular license....if she did, I would think she would have said, "keep the regular license"...kwim?
But yes, you are right....either way, she was denied and is now illegally providing care.
Plus like you mentioned, she could still try and appeal if it's within the 30 days allowed...Comment
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I have been "doing daycare" for seven years. But I would not be able to operate the way I do, watching the number of kids I do if I didn't live where I do (SW MO, rural) Even if I lived in another town, it would be a challenge because of laws and ordinances limiting numbers and locations. I have been very lucky. I want to move some day so I have chosen to go back to school and become a dental hygienist. I know that pursuing this anywhere else would be too trying and expensive. I have looked at other states costs and regulations and know they make it very difficult if not impossible for a small business to want to operate.I am sorry you are stressed about this but honestly, you ARE doing something you aren't suppose to do.....being good at it has NOTHING to do with whether your city, county, state or whatever allows you to do it.
My advice would be to see if there are any alternatives to providing care in your home, such as renting a space somewhere or working in a center or something similar.
I understand that you are devastated but again, laws are laws and we can't just go against them because we feel we are good at what we do or because parents say you are great at watching/caring for their children.
You were basically told to stop the first time you were turned in so you DO know better....unfortunately, your neighbor had every right to turn you in, if you still continued to provide care for more than 3 children.
I wish I had better advice, but I don't.
Again, I am sorry this happened to you. :hug:
I guess what I am trying to say is, if you truly love what you do and are insisting on continuing, you will have to find a new place to operate. Otherwise, move on. Risking yourself legally is a choice I am not willing to take, but it's one you will have to decide. You could face prosecution.Comment
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Wow
I am depressed enough and I thought I would get support here but I guess I was wrong. I have run a Day Care for 21 years. In 4 states because my husband is active duty. I have been licensed in every state but PA because my "township" said no. Not the state, the township. Not because my house needs repairs or anything like that. I live in a beautiful house and have 1,000 sq ft dedicated to my DC kids. I am more than willing to get licensed and abide by "the law". The 3 times DCW came out it was because of a neighbor saying I was watching some crazy amount of kids and I was not. Then they showed up again because of an anonamious call as usual and I had 1 extra due to an un scheduled drop off. I also had another woman here with me so really it should not have even been an issue. And for the record, it is because of the neighbor who is a bigwig she told me herself that she will get what she wants because she has the money. Most of you are making me out to be a bad person. That hurts because I am far from it. It blows my mind that my husband has been serving our country for 29 yrs and I get denied because of a couple neighbors that said if I get the license their property value will go down. "REALLY"!!! I have never come across people as hateful and self centered as the people in YORK, PA. I took the class, I already had all my clearances, and my house is safety checked. I have a year to be in compliance from taking the class (now only 5 months left), the next step was zoning in the township, that is where it ended. Yes it cost me $3,000. It was $450 to stand in front of the board, $250 for the sign I "had" to put in my yard and I hired a lawyer. Unfortunately the person I hired passed me to his son and he just was not experienced enough. One person that was at the meeting made fun of people, called me stupid, and ignorant. Never in my life saw this person before but he had every right to be there because he is from the same township. He was rude, sitting in the back mocking people as they spoke. Found out later he heard from a friend what the meeting was about and he said " I have nothing to do and it doesn't cost me anything so I'm going to have fun with it". Nice to know my life is a joke that someone find entertaining. I thought maybe the people here would understand how hurtful this is and since you care for children as well you could maybe sypasize. I do thank the person that looked all that information up, that was so kind of you. I do have all that information in the book I got from the class I had to take.
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We are supporting you. Just not the way you want us to.
You have three options.... fight it out in court, move or give up.
Running your daycare illegally after receiving a Cease and Desist order just is not one of those three.
My husband is also (former) military, does not change the laws for me either. NO, it is not fair. It just IS.
I see no other options and sugar coating this will NEVER help you.
This is me, supporting you with simple truth. lovethis- Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.Comment
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I didn't read any comments where anyone said you're a bad person. Most people are just advising you to follow the law before you get in more trouble. It wouldn't solve your problem for everyone here to tell you to just ignore the notice and keep doing daycare, right?Comment
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I am very surprised by some of the comments made. Im sorry you haven't Received more sympathy!!! I'm no help because I don't know the law in PA. But if you can I would fight it with everything you have! Call and bug the people!! As for the neighbor, it would be really hard for me to keep my cool with that person! Is it a possibility to rent a small space and continue daycare there? Good luck hun! Hugs!!!!Comment
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Also thank you to your husband for his service!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Comment
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- Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.Comment
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I see lots of compassion in this thread! Many people said how sorry they were about the OP going through the ordeal.Comment
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I do have sympathy for OP because she is having a hard time working through this complex situation but I do NOT have sympathy for anyone who provides care illegally.
I fully understand that there are some odd and unfair facts working against her but that still doesn't mean she can continue to provide care without meeting the township, state and/or city requirements.
I am grateful for her DH's service to our country but her DH fought for the rights of Americans who obey the laws of the country not so people could just do what they wanted when faced with unfairness.
Because we live in America, the OP has choices....one of which is to fight the unfairness she feels is happening to her.Comment
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Agree 100%
There are a lot of things you will find when dealing with the government (Local, State or Federal) that just seem unfair and a waste of time however "It Is What It Is"... Only way around these "laws" is to fight it in court and hope you get a favorable response.
Best of luck to you in the future!Comment
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