Spin Off From Parents Thread

[littlemissmuffet]

Side note... I would NEVER take my dck's on a city bus... I would not take my own kids on one. We are suppose to keep our kids from potential child abusers and you don't know who is on that bus.. they are not seat belted in,also being on the bus doesn't "magically" make other drivers drive better... The no seat belts and car seats scare me the most..also.

I have been driving for 25 years and have never even been pulled over or received a ticket.. My parents totally trust me and I love that!

First of all... to be brutally honest, you don't know if anyone ANYWHERE is a child abuser. Do you keep your children in the house at all times in case one of your neibhors is a pedophile? Do you require all parents to stay outside when picking up/dropping off their children to your daycare in case they are a pedophile? To be frank, one of your own family members COULD be a pedophile. So not using public transportation for this reason is completely ridiculous.

Second of all, buses don't require seat belts because they are designed to absorb the impact of a crash - both the size of a bus and the way the seats are designed (compact, high backs, etc) actually make it MUCH LESS likely that a child (or adult) would be injured or killed in an accident on a bus than in a car.

Just so you know

[Michelle]

We do all of them on the weekend when parents are not working.

Do you get paid for this?

[Michelle]

First of all... to be brutally honest, you don't know if anyone ANYWHERE is a child abuser. Do you keep your children in the house at all times in case one of your neibhors is a pedophile? Do you require all parents to stay outside when picking up/dropping off their children to your daycare in case they are a pedophile? To be frank, one of your own family members COULD be a pedophile. So not using public transportation for this reason is completely ridiculous.

Second of all, buses don't require seat belts because they are designed to absorb the impact of a crash - both the size of a bus and the way the seats are designed (compact, high backs, etc) actually make it MUCH LESS likely that a child (or adult) would be injured or killed in an accident on a bus than in a car.

Just so you know

Yes actually, I do make sure absolutely no neighbor,delivery man,repairman is in my home while children are in care!
These are my preferences and a licensing requirement !!!
As soon as my kids turn 18 ... they get fingerprinted and I don't allow anyone of my kids friends here during daycare hours that are over 18 and even under 18... they are never near the kids anyways.
The parents never touch anyone else's kids and they pick up their own child and leave...While we are in public places, we check the stall before allowing our kids to go into the bathroom and they are never out of our site! We routinely teach the children about personal safety and they can say "no " to an adult... and absolutely there are no pedos that live in my home!

also we have our own private fenced in yard that nobody can or will enter without our knowledge!

[Michelle]

Second of all, buses don't require seat belts because they are designed to absorb the impact of a crash - both the size of a bus and the way the seats are designed (compact, high backs, etc) actually make it MUCH LESS likely that a child (or adult) would be injured or killed in an accident on a bus than in a car.


Um ....I do not want a baby flying through the air in a bus.. no matter how "crash resistant"that bus is
no matter how strong you think you are... during a crash... a baby can get ripped from your arms!
My kids get properly installed car seats and that are strapped in to my van!!!

[littlemissmuffet]

Yes actually, I do make sure absolutely no neighbor,delivery man,repairman is in my home while children are in care!
These are my preferences and a licensing requirement !!!
As soon as my kids turn 18 ... they get fingerprinted and I don't allow anyone of my kids friends here during daycare hours that are over 18 and even under 18... they are never near the kids anyways.
The parents never touch anyone else's kids and they pick up their own child and leave...While we are in public places, we check the stall before allowing our kids to go into the bathroom and they are never out of our site! We routinely teach the children about personal safety and they can say "no " to an adult... and absolutely there are no pedos that live in my home!

also we have our own private fenced in yard that nobody can or will enter without our knowledge!

That's all fine and dandy, and sounds pretty routine for most daycares... but what's the difference between making sure your kids are safe in your home, yard and in public areas... but not the bus? You are the one who suggested that the bus could have a child abuser on it - well, child abusers are everywhere. All we can do is supervise. My kids are all well supervised on the bus.

[littlemissmuffet]

Second of all, buses don't require seat belts because they are designed to absorb the impact of a crash - both the size of a bus and the way the seats are designed (compact, high backs, etc) actually make it MUCH LESS likely that a child (or adult) would be injured or killed in an accident on a bus than in a car.


Um ....I do not want a baby flying through the air in a bus.. no matter how "crash resistant"that bus is
no matter how strong you think you are... during a crash... a baby can get ripped from your arms!
My kids get properly installed car seats and that are strapped in to my van!!!

Who said that my baby comes on the bus with my IN MY ARMS????? She is in her carseat, buckled in.

And, I can assure you with 100% certainty that more babies and children (and adults) die in CAR accidents every year than in BUS accidents.

[daycare]

Who said that my baby comes on the bus with my IN MY ARMS????? She is in her carseat, buckled in.

And, I can assure you with 100% certainty that more babies and children (and adults) die in CAR accidents every year than in BUS accidents.

Car accidents are one of the leasing causes of death in people under the age of 21..... I read that this was nation wide

[Crystal]

Do you get paid for this?

No. I don't NEED to be paid to build relationships with children and families and I am not the one providing the caregiving, the parents are, which prevents me from bearing liability if something should happen. I do it because I enjoy it.

[daycare]

Car accidents are one of the leasing causes of death in people under the age of 21..... I read that this was nation wide

1-4 years of age
Leading causes of death
Accidents (unintentional injuries)
Congenital malformations, deformations and chromosomal abnormalities
5-14 years of age
Leading causes of death
Accidents (unintentional injuries)
Cancer

[Michelle]

Car accidents are one of the leasing causes of death in people under the age of 21..... I read that this was nation wide

probably because there are more cars than buses

[daycare]

probably because there are more cars than buses

I'm sure that's why....

Driving children is a increased liability, but then I could say the same thing about serving peanut butter sandwiches. Lol

[Crystal]

Yes actually, I do make sure absolutely no neighbor,delivery man,repairman is in my home while children are in care!
These are my preferences and a licensing requirement !!!
As soon as my kids turn 18 ... they get fingerprinted and I don't allow anyone of my kids friends here during daycare hours that are over 18 and even under 18... they are never near the kids anyways.
The parents never touch anyone else's kids and they pick up their own child and leave...While we are in public places, we check the stall before allowing our kids to go into the bathroom and they are never out of our site! We routinely teach the children about personal safety and they can say "no " to an adult... and absolutely there are no pedos that live in my home!

also we have our own private fenced in yard that nobody can or will enter without our knowledge!

Actually, it is not against regs for a repairman, volunteer, etc. to be there during hours, just FTR:

The following individuals are exempt from the requirement to submit fingerprints:
(1) A volunteer who is a relative, legal guardian, or foster parent of a child in the facility.
(2) A volunteer that provides time-limited specialized services if all of the following apply:
(A) The volunteer is directly supervised by the licensee or a facility employee with a
criminal record clearance or exemption.
(B) The volunteer spends no more than 16 hours per week at the facility.
(C) The volunteer is not left alone with children in care.
(3) A student who is enrolled or participating at an accredited educational institution if all of the
following apply:
(A) The student is directly supervised by the licensee or a facility employee with a criminal
record clearance or exemption.
(B) The facility has an agreement with the educational institution concerning the placement of the student

Cont.) FAMILY CHILD CARE HOMES Regulations
102370 CRIMINAL RECORD CLEARANCE (Continued) 102370
(C) The student spends no more than 16 hours per week at the facility.
(D) The student is not left alone with the children in care.
(4) A third-party repair person, or similar retained contractor, if all of the following apply:
(A) The individual is hired for a defined, time-limited job.
(B) The individual is not left alone with children.
(C) When children are present in the room in which the repairperson or contractor is
working, a staff person who has a criminal record clearance or exemption is also present.

[littlemissmuffet]

probably because there are more cars than buses

There may be less buses than cars, but the passanger capacity on a bus is exceedingly greater than that of a car! So a car accident would quite likely have far fewer potential victims than a bus accident. Yet, there are still far less reports of injury and death from bus and train crashes than that of cars!

I really recommend you do some research ont he safety of buses and riding them before knocking it - because the information you have is obviously false.

[daycare]

I know it's not against regs, but I was also told that they (lic) prefer providers to not have any visitors during daycare hours. That list she gave me included friends, family or third part services of any kind.

I was asked to schedule house maintained appointments on weekend or after hours. If it could not wait to be done ie. plumbing issue, then to separate the children. From this person and to have a second adult present.

[Michelle]

That's all fine and dandy, and sounds pretty routine for most daycares... but what's the difference between making sure your kids are safe in your home, yard and in public areas... but not the bus? You are the one who suggested that the bus could have a child abuser on it - well, child abusers are everywhere. All we can do is supervise. My kids are all well supervised on the bus.

because I know that if little Suzy sits on my couch and forgets to close her legs while wearing a dress.. nobody is going to get a cheap thrill from it in my home... but a bus? people have their cell phones and have ample opportunity to snap a picture..
if you are too busy with one child and little Suzy is sitting next to some well dressed pedo..he might get a chance to touch her( this happened to me as a child on a bus..also while walking on the riverbed and at the mall..( I was a so called free range child)