Parents Secretly Recording Daycare: Logged Out

[midaycare]

As a parent of a child under 1 year of age, whom I just pulled from daycare, I am quite concerned to see the kind of discussions on this forum. In fact, in re-affirms that I made the right decision about pulling out my child out of daycare.
Regarding this comment: "whether you see it or not, you are crippling your child with your fear." Infants and toddlers are prime targets for abuse. They are small, vulnerable, they cannot talk, and they are often abused or at least neglected for months before parents realize what is happening. The "fear" as you say, is VERY justified because abuse and neglect happens every day to tens of thousands of children. Most importantly, there is a serious lack of transparency from daycare providers. Children can get injured, babies can get roughed up by older kids, and parents won't be told unless there is bruising. But this is traumatic for young children. Many adult and teen mental issues stem from trauma in infancy. IT IS PARENTS' RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT THEIR CHILDREN. IS THAT CLEAR????
Daycare providers do not have any long-term vested interest in the children. If they act in a way that is traumatizing for a young child, or just don't bother to intervene when a baby or toddler is being roughed up by an older child, or just decide on their own that the baby should be left to cry to sleep, they will not be the ones who will see the child evolve into a teenager who will have tons of issues because they were not treated with love and were not nurtured 5 days per week 8 hours per day at the stupid daycare. Daycare providers only care about what's convenient for THEM, and it is quite clear in this thread. There is no concern at all about the children's well being and long-term impact of the caregivers' actions. NOBODY has the level of vested interest as the parents.
If we are serious about protecting our children, then everything a child can hear should also be heard by parents if they choose to. There should not be any confidential discussion by other parents about divorce, illness or anything like that in front of other children. Those discussions should take place in a private room, and every daycare as a private room. Those conversations are not appropriate for young children and daycare providers should refrain from having them in front of children. And if they - and other parents - are immature enough to have them in front of children anyway, then they deserve to be heard by other parents. And besides, children 2 to 5 can repeat what adults say and they have no concept of confidentiality. So whoever put that confidential discussion excuse on here, you are not very mature nor very smart.
Parents have a right already to be at the daycare while their child is there, so they can already see other children get disciplined, parents can walk in when their child is being disciplined. It should not be kept a secret from parents.
Caregivers who have a problem being recorded when they are caring for children are the ones who are incompetent and have something to hide. They should not be allowed to care for children if they don't want to be recorded when they are in the presence of children.

The best thing for a child is to be with his/her parents. If this is the choice you made, awesome. You don't need to justify your choice by looking for things you don't agree with in the daycare environment.

I don't allow recording in my home. It's my home. There are other children here. I've been known to toot a time or two. Okay, daily. I'm a gassy person. My singing voice is horrendous - viral video worthy, yet I sing every song with the kids. Would you like to be taped at your job 24/7?

It's the parents' responsibility to find a reputable daycare. This usually means paying more money. The bad daycares & the ones that are shut down, are usually not the cream of the crop.

I have thought of putting in a recording device here for ME, in case a crazy parent tries to accuse me of something. That way, I'm covered. But a parent recording me? Buh-bye.

[LindseyA]

This thread is exhausting.:dislike:

[Blackcat31]

This thread is exhausting.:dislike:

I agree!

It would probably just die down if so many didn't feed into it.

[nannyde]

As a parent of a child under 1 year of age, whom I just pulled from daycare, I am quite concerned to see the kind of discussions on this forum. In fact, in re-affirms that I made the right decision about pulling out my child out of daycare.
Regarding this comment: "whether you see it or not, you are crippling your child with your fear." Infants and toddlers are prime targets for abuse. They are small, vulnerable, they cannot talk, and they are often abused or at least neglected for months before parents realize what is happening. The "fear" as you say, is VERY justified because abuse and neglect happens every day to tens of thousands of children. Most importantly, there is a serious lack of transparency from daycare providers. Children can get injured, babies can get roughed up by older kids, and parents won't be told unless there is bruising. But this is traumatic for young children. Many adult and teen mental issues stem from trauma in infancy. IT IS PARENTS' RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT THEIR CHILDREN. IS THAT CLEAR????
Daycare providers do not have any long-term vested interest in the children. If they act in a way that is traumatizing for a young child, or just don't bother to intervene when a baby or toddler is being roughed up by an older child, or just decide on their own that the baby should be left to cry to sleep, they will not be the ones who will see the child evolve into a teenager who will have tons of issues because they were not treated with love and were not nurtured 5 days per week 8 hours per day at the stupid daycare. Daycare providers only care about what's convenient for THEM, and it is quite clear in this thread. There is no concern at all about the children's well being and long-term impact of the caregivers' actions. NOBODY has the level of vested interest as the parents.
If we are serious about protecting our children, then everything a child can hear should also be heard by parents if they choose to. There should not be any confidential discussion by other parents about divorce, illness or anything like that in front of other children. Those discussions should take place in a private room, and every daycare as a private room. Those conversations are not appropriate for young children and daycare providers should refrain from having them in front of children. And if they - and other parents - are immature enough to have them in front of children anyway, then they deserve to be heard by other parents. And besides, children 2 to 5 can repeat what adults say and they have no concept of confidentiality. So whoever put that confidential discussion excuse on here, you are not very mature nor very smart.
Parents have a right already to be at the daycare while their child is there, so they can already see other children get disciplined, parents can walk in when their child is being disciplined. It should not be kept a secret from parents.
Caregivers who have a problem being recorded when they are caring for children are the ones who are incompetent and have something to hide. They should not be allowed to care for children if they don't want to be recorded when they are in the presence of children.

Well let's see..

The daycare you just pulled your kid out of was picked by YOU. Where did you go wrong? How did you fail your child? What have you done to make sure you don't do the same thing again?

You DO realize that you are the biggest statistical risk to your child for EVERY SINGLE potential harm or death. Parents and parents boyfriends and girlfriends kill more... inflict more life altering injuries.. have more cases of neglect.... more accidental injuries and death...and on and on.

If you are going to worry... worry about YOU and your child's other parent and an boy or girl friends. Child care providers... real legal child care providers are at the bottom of the risk potential. You are at the top.

As far as having a right to hear and see what goes on in a providers home and anything your child hears and sees... um. No you don't. You also don't have the right to see the provider care for other people's children. In my State we simply have to give you immediate access to your child upon arrival to retrieve your child. We can accomplish that by answering the door with your child in hand. We don't have to give you access to the other kids.

A lot goes on in front of your baby that a provider would never want a parent to overhear or see. A baby can't understand a phone conversation from another parent to discuss their child's bowel issues or who is going to start picking up because the parents separated.

We talk to each other about many things that are none of your business and your baby... regardless of your possible belief that he can understand or feel something...are perfectly legit and done without a scintilla of understanding from your kid.

If your kid is older we develop ways to converse where we can have full conversations without your kid understanding a half sentence of it.
You would... but your kid couldn't.

My staff and I talk in sentences and speed spell the key words. We have code names for each kid and parent and use speed spell with code names when there is a child present who shouldn't be privy to the convo.

It takes me a couple of weeks to teach the new staff how to do it and within a month they are lightning fast. We can have full discussions about the other kids, parents, our kids, our troubles etc that blow right on by the oldest smartest kid in the house.

You would be able to decode....so we couldn't have your listening ears as a known or unknown guest.

It's your misunderstanding of risk to children that puts my business at risk. That affects my kid and my livelihood.

We trump you. Believe me... we are way more worried about you harming or neglecting your child and dropping them off into our care... thus putting us in the window of suspicion when your kid dies or goes south on our watch than you are about us hurting your kid.

You are the biggest risk to your kid, my business, and ultimately my ability to care for my own. If we are going to have cameras we need to set them up at your house where the real true statistical risk for death and injury live.