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  • lovemykidstoo
    Daycare.com Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 4740

    #16
    Originally posted by crazydaycarelady
    Honestly, I wouldn't do anything unless you know FOR SURE there was a recording device. Lots of toys have those boxes, maybe it wasn't a talking toy but a vibrating toy or something. If there was not a recording device and you accuse them of it you'll come across as paranoid and crazy.

    If however you find out that there was a recording device I would terminate. This is a business in your home and it is unfair and a violation of privacy to bring that in without a notice (possibly even illegal in some states.)
    That's what I"m thinking that maybe the toy vibrates or lights up or something. It woudl seem very strange to have a recording device sewn into something. If it's sewn into a stuffed animal the sound I would think would be all muffled, the stuffed animal would have to be right next to someone to be voice activated etc. Plus if it's sewn in they are going to have to rip it open to get it out. I'm guessing it's not a recorder. Not to mention that trust goes both ways. People say that if they don't trust you then you should terminate them. What if you don't trust them? Shoudl they terminate you? Open it up if you think it's something suspicious, but my guess is it's harmless.

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    • DBug
      Daycare Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 934

      #17
      I agree not to push the issue unless you have undeniable truth.

      But if you do .... think about the fact that all of the other children in your care could have been recorded or filmed by a stranger (to them and their family). My dc parents would NOT be okay with that. And I would not be okay with the fact that my own kids could have been recorded. And if the toy were accidentally left overnight, my husband's and my conversations (etc.) could have been recorded too .

      I personally would be very proactive to find out if it actually is a recording device. I would then photograph it and keep the device itself. I would term immediately and press charges, if at all possible.

      Good luck! I hope it's JUST a toy!
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      • bgmeyers
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 136

        #18
        I would do everything I could to figure out if this was indeed a recording device. It is illegal and unethical for someone to do this. It violates your privacy and the privacy of every child in your care. I would not only terminate, but I would threaten them with legal actions.

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        • DaisyMamma
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • May 2011
          • 2241

          #19
          Originally posted by DCMom
          If I suspected a recording device, that toy would have been opened up and investigated 10 minutes ago.

          If it was a recording device, the termination would have been immediate. As in a phone call to work for the parent to pick up the child NOW. Reason: Lack of trust and non-existent working relationship.

          I can't put into words how angry I would be.
          Totally agree.

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          • Sugar Magnolia
            Blossoms Blooming
            • Apr 2011
            • 2647

            #20
            "sewn in"....hmmm.....if the toy was supposed to vibrate, light up or make noise, there would be like a velcro or zippered opening for a parent to change the batteries, right? In the absence of such a manufacturers opening, and you could see where it was in fact stiched closed, I would be VERY suspicious!
            "hey mom, little Suzie really enjoyed snuggling that toy you brought in, can she leave it here for a nap time snuggle? " if mom says no...."why? How come?" If she says yes, and brings it back, take the stiches out, find out whats in there. If it's a battery pack, sew it back up. If it's a recording devise----TERM.

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            • lovemykidstoo
              Daycare.com Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 4740

              #21
              Originally posted by Sugar Magnolia
              "sewn in"....hmmm.....if the toy was supposed to vibrate, light up or make noise, there would be like a velcro or zippered opening for a parent to change the batteries, right? In the absence of such a manufacturers opening, and you could see where it was in fact stiched closed, I would be VERY suspicious!
              "hey mom, little Suzie really enjoyed snuggling that toy you brought in, can she leave it here for a nap time snuggle? " if mom says no...."why? How come?" If she says yes, and brings it back, take the stiches out, find out whats in there. If it's a battery pack, sew it back up. If it's a recording devise----TERM.
              The only thing I can come up with as to why it's sewn in if it's a battery pack or something is if the toy no longer works and it was a way for the child to take the battery pack out? I don't know. One simple way to find out is to open the dang thing up and see what it is. Can't wait to hear.

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              • Unregistered

                #22
                Originally posted by lovemykidstoo
                The only thing I can come up with as to why it's sewn in if it's a battery pack or something is if the toy no longer works and it was a way for the child to take the battery pack out? I don't know. One simple way to find out is to open the dang thing up and see what it is. Can't wait to hear.
                This is what aroused my suspicion. I undressed the doll and looked for a place for batteries to go, or a switch, etc. Nothing.

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                • mom2many
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 1278

                  #23
                  I would not be able to continue caring for a child if the parents did not trust me. If it comes back again, I would definitely check and see if there truly was a recording device in it! I have no issues with a parent observing the care their child is getting, but to secretly do it, is not okay!

                  If I got a bad vibe or felt like they were scrutinizing everything I said, I would open up a dialogue with this parent and ask them if they had any concerns they wanted to discuss. Sometimes parents have a hard time leaving their child and need to be reassured that you are there to give the best care to their child while they are at work. I can be a little sensitive at times and sometimes read into things, so having this discussion is helpful to both parties. It may be this mom would never be happy and is very apprehensive leaving her child with anyone and would be best staying home to watch her herself.

                  Good Luck!

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                  • EntropyControlSpecialist
                    Embracing the chaos.
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 7466

                    #24
                    Did it have an opening to access it for batteries? I'm assuming not because you were very put off by discovering it. That is very odd behavior and I would terminate them. But, I have to say I would be tempted to get that doll back and investigate it before.

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                    • Meeko
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 4351

                      #25
                      Check online for photos of recording dolls to see if you see one the same.

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                      • Lyss
                        Chaos Coordinator :)
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 1429

                        #26
                        I would open it as well! Not only does it create resentment and distrust on your part but it is a huge violation of the privacy of both you and the other DCKs. What if DCG carried the "toy" into diaper area? DCPs get a video of all kids getting stripped down and diapered? That is so not acceptable.

                        Plus in some states it is illegal to video someone without their knowledge.

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                        • Lyss
                          Chaos Coordinator :)
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 1429

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Meeko
                          Check online for photos of recording dolls to see if you see one the same.
                          Great idea!

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                          • Loveyoustinkyface
                            New Daycare.com Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 115

                            #28
                            {Voyeurism is the sexual interest in or practice of spying on people engaged in intimate behaviors, such as undressing, sexual activity, or other actions usually considered to be of a private nature.}

                            What if this child had taken this doll with her to the bathroom and left it behind when she left?? And you came in and used the bathroom or changed your clothes or (God forbid) another child came in and used the bathroom or undressed?

                            Voyeurism is ILLEGAL.

                            Just my two sense! I was a victim of voyeurism while caring for a quadraplegic is his home. He used a "weather radio/alarm clock" which was next to the bed I slept in while doing night shifts. I did not prosecute because he would end up in a nursing home. But I did file a law suit on him! Sad story.....

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                            • JenNJ
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 1212

                              #29
                              I would open it. If I found a recording device, I would request both parents pick up and the police would be waiting to question them. It is illegal.

                              I would press charges and encourage my dc parents to do the very same. It is a violation of my privacy in my home and workplace and a violation of the other children's privacy.

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                              • daycare
                                Advanced Daycare.com *********
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 16259

                                #30
                                sorry, I think you are reading into this way too much.....

                                I have to ask and flame me if you want...but are you doing something that makes you think that the family would want to record you?

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