Would You Turn In?

[daycarediva]

Illegal providers?

I have SOOOO many Mom's (locally) that I know personally and on FB that I know personally operating illegally. One just came up on my news feed showing 6 kids on one trampoline (without a net) and NONE of those kids are hers, she has an infant (she is out of ratio even for a licensed provider here)


UGH!

I am normally a live and let live person, but I am tempted to turn in several people lately!

[Sugar Magnolia]

It's a nationwide epidemic. If they seem to be putting kids in danger, turn them in. Sadly, for every one you turn in, two new ones will pop up.

[Cat Herder]

I would.

I am over the stigma.

[Blackcat31]

I would.

I am over the stigma.

Things can't or won't change until people start minding business that really is our business.

[cheerfuldom]

I would. you should be able to report without giving your name. let the authorities decide what is and is not acceptable. But I would only report if I knew for a FACT what this person was doing. I had one daycare mom that told me that she left a provider that had 16+ kids. I know this provider and she is not licensed for 16, although I am not surprised at all to hear that she is out of ratios. I did not report her because I received this info second hand. I did let the mom know how she could report though, if she felt she should.

[nanglgrl]

I would and I wouldn't think twice. There are some states that allow unregistered providers, fine but if your going to be one then follow the rules for unregistered providers. I've thought about going unregistered several times. My business would stay the same, I would just have 1 less child and less involvement from the state. In the end (at least for now) I decided that they way child care is going in our country it would be a bad move. Parents want all of the bells and whistles and the good ones are fine with paying for it.
I'm sick of hearing of unregistered providers that charge so little...yeah they can charge so little because they are taking care of twice the amount of kids they are allowed, they don't have to take any trainings or spend all of the money on requirements as registered providers do.
One of my clients came across an unregistered provider when she was having a garage sale. She asked if my client had daycare and then told her that she would watch my clients child for half the price I charge and she lives right around the corner so my client wouldn't have to drive 40 minutes round trip to get to me. Thankfully my client declined her offer.

[sharlan]

That's touchy for me. I operated for many years without a license, didn't know I had to have one.

If I knew that it was a sahm with a couple of kids, no I wouldn't report. If I knew that the children were in a bad situation, without a doubt I would. If I knew that the person had too many kids, yes I would call.

[Happy Hearts]

I'm working so hard to get my license, jumping through all the hoops, getting all the paperwork done, getting the daycare area and my home to code and doing all the courses required. Dang right I would report!! I have worked hard to earn my license and will have earned the right to have 7 children.

[Cat Herder]

That's touchy for me. I operated for many years without a license, didn't know I had to have one.

If I knew that it was a sahm with a couple of kids, no I wouldn't report. If I knew that the children were in a bad situation, without a doubt I would. If I knew that the person had too many kids, yes I would call.

That is how I started, too. I thought if you did not take state money you did not have to register. I signed up for classes and sent in my background check forms like everyone else thinking I was legit. The only problem : No registration # to go with the records check. This was before the internet.

Someone came to the house and told me what I had to do. She brought me the paperwork, gave me tips and was quite sweet. They did not make me close while I was registering, either.

They don't come in like the swat team (that comes later when you re-register ). :::::: No worries, really.

[DaisyMamma]

It is a hard choice. I was watching a couple of kids unlicensed for a while - 2-4 kids for a few hours a day. nce I decided to get licensed and after all the paperwork and changes to my home I realized that what I was doing wasn't fair to the licensed providers who put in so much $ and effort in doing things right. Needless to say it irritates me when I see unlicensed providers.

[Soccermom]

I don't think there is anything wrong with someone operating without a liscense unless they are way over ratio and the children are in danger...

I would never report another DP just because I thought she might have 1-2 kids more than she can legally have or just because I knew she was unliscenced.

I think if the DCPS trust this DP to provide quality, loving care to their child then it is not up to us to judge.

[cheerfuldom]

I do think there are many cases where SAHMs take a few kids and arent aware of the rules....but lets be honest, there are PLENTY that know good and well what they are doing is wrong or at least they should! I knew one lady that was running close to 20 kids and had two employees in her home. She had to have known that with numbers like that, the state is going to have something to say about it. She finally got reported and scaled back on kids and employees to get within ratio and get licensed....they did not shut her down.

[Blackcat31]

It is a hard choice. I was watching a couple of kids unlicensed for a while - 2-4 kids for a few hours a day. nce I decided to get licensed and after all the paperwork and changes to my home I realized that what I was doing wasn't fair to the licensed providers who put in so much $ and effort in doing things right. Needless to say it irritates me when I see unlicensed providers.

There is a big difference between being LEGALLY unlicensed and illegal. I have zero issue with anyone who does anything legally.

It's when people are doing things ILLEGALLY that gives everyone a bad name or gets my goat.

I don't think there is anything wrong with someone operating without a liscense unless they are way over ratio and the children are in danger...

I would never report another DP just because I thought she might have 1-2 kids more than she can legally have or just because I knew she was unliscenced.

I think if the DCPS trust this DP to provide quality, loving care to their child then it is not up to us to judge.

As a mandated reporter, I feel it IS my duty to report any situation that could potentially harm or endanger a child. Providing child care ILLEGALLY is exactly that.

[queenbee]

I'm going out on a limb here with you all

I run an illegal daycare. I've been in business for almost 5 years and I am at full capacity with a large Waiting List.

I have over 250 hours of training courses and classes, my CDA, 45-Hour Certificate , and I have a Masters in ECE. I am confident that I am competent and knowledgable when it comes to running a daycare, running a successful business, and caring and loving all my little kids.

I strongly dislike the stereotyping that all illegal providers are, in a sense, undereducated and unfit to care for children.

I am NOT registered or licensed with my state nor will I ever be. I am completely against the state being privy to my business and everything that I do each and every day with my little friends. I will not jump through hoops, I will not have any outside input regarding MY business and I will not answer to the individuals who are not even knowledgable in ECE at all

I currently charge just as much as our local daycare centers. I have worked hard, spent hours upon weeks upon months upon years getting my daycare to be where I want it to be and I will not jeopardize my hard work for anyone.

I've never had a dcparent or potential dcparent inquire about whether or not I am registered or licensed. They could care less once they've seen my daycare.

OP, I feel it isn't anyone else's business , especially other daycare providers, on what I do in my home. This is my LIFE. This is what I was born to do. I will not have anyone mess with something this important just because they feel upset that I don't have to jump through hoop after hoop.

Just be sure you look at all sides before making the call. I can only imagine how devastating losing my business would mean to me.

Hope that gave you another perspective

[Happy Hearts]

I'm going out on a limb here with you all

I run an illegal daycare. I've been in business for almost 5 years and I am at full capacity with a large Waiting List.

I have over 250 hours of training courses and classes, my CDA, 45-Hour Certificate , and I have a Masters in ECE. I am confident that I am competent and knowledgable when it comes to running a daycare, running a successful business, and caring and loving all my little kids.

I strongly dislike the stereotyping that all illegal providers are, in a sense, undereducated and unfit to care for children.

I am NOT registered or licensed with my state nor will I ever be. I am completely against the state being privy to my business and everything that I do each and every day with my little friends. I will not jump through hoops, I will not have any outside input regarding MY business and I will not answer to the individuals who are not even knowledgable in ECE at all

I currently charge just as much as our local daycare centers. I have worked hard, spent hours upon weeks upon months upon years getting my daycare to be where I want it to be and I will not jeopardize my hard work for anyone.

I've never had a dcparent or potential dcparent inquire about whether or not I am registered or licensed. They could care less once they've seen my daycare.

OP, I feel it isn't anyone else's business , especially other daycare providers, on what I do in my home. This is my LIFE. This is what I was born to do. I will not have anyone mess with something this important just because they feel upset that I don't have to jump through hoop after hoop.

Just be sure you look at all sides before making the call. I can only imagine how devastating losing my business would mean to me.

Hope that gave you another perspective

What does that show about your ethics, then, if you are deliberately breaking the law? So what if you are born to do this job? Does that make you above the law or above anyone else who is licensed?

I don't care how many degrees you have or how much training you have... you are illegal and now flaunting it to us that you don't give a rat's behind about the laws.