2nd Presidential Debate - Your Vote for President

[lovemykidstoo]

The middle east in chaos, this country is on the verge of bankruptcy and we continue to spend-spend-spend, our credit rating was downgraded for the first time in history. There are bigger things to worry about than 'womens health'.

That is my opinion too and I continue to ask people here and in the real world, what exactly are they concerned about with women's issues? Do they think that Romney is going to make it illegal to have an abortion or something?

[SunshineMama]

Exactly,my God does noone remember that the Democrats were in control? That drives me insane!!! Also, what rights exactly are people concerned with Romney taking away? Not to be picky, but in my opinion the economy really is the biggest issue right now, not some piddly things that some are focused on and I'm not necessarily meaning here on this board.

Agreed. One of the reasons that I like Romney is that he is a successful businessman first, and a politician second, and I truly believe that it is going to take someone with that type of a background to get this economy going. He wouldn't be independently wealthy and succesful if he were not good at what he does. He has a proven track record; just look at what he has done for his state. For example, he created a program for high school students to have a 100% guaranteed college scholarship for 4 years if they received above certain GPA. They had to earn it, but it was available for those who chose to work toward that goal. What a great concept!

My #1 concern right now is the economy. If we maintain this stagnant economy, then all of the planned parenthood debates, and "big bird" comments will be moot because our country will be so poor that we wont be able to afford those programs down the road anyway. Our federal deficit is rediculous and growing. Why not provide an environment that stimulates small business, encourages trade, and increases good jobs? Obama has had 4 years, 2 of which were controlled solely by the Democrats. He had a chance and failed. The economy has been slowing each year he is in office, and the stats that jobs are growing are inflated and misrepresented.

Who do we want for President? Romney, a man who is successful and has a proven track record of success, or Obama, a man who has a proven track record of failure. You may not like everything Romney says, no candidate is perfect, but Romney is unquestionably the least of 2 evils.

[SunshineMama]

Although I feel womens health is an important topic, I am more concerned about what will happen with education.

The national education system is mired in a deep crisis, as funding, teachers, student loans, social, and a myriad of other issues threaten to bring the already declining standards of American education even lower

I think if this country is to ever be what it once was, we need to start focusing on how to teach our children to be strong leaders and to be educated.

I don't think we are doing any good right now by allowing kids to slip through the cracks and not meeting their individual needs but instead focusing on a one size fits all type of education system.

I have heard enough horror stories about public school that I am seriously concerned.

I have several teacher parents and even had one tell me the other day that she was tenured so she no longer has to work hard at her job.

I absolutely agree that our education system is in crisis. We are so far behind other countries it makes me very sad. I don't want to homeschool my kids, but I have a feeling I will be "supplementing" much of what they learn at school because I dont have much faith in the current school systems.

[lovemykidstoo]

I have an absolutely serious question for those that are planning on voting for Obama. If you looked at all the stats on the economy, foreign policy, the wars, the whole picture of our country right now and changed one thing. I want you to change who is president. Say it's Bush with all of these stats instead of Obama. Would you vote for Bush again? I don't want you to post things that you didnt' like during the real Bush years, I'm just wondering if some wouldn't vote for Romney strictly because he's a Republican. Does this question make sense?

[MN Mom]

The only "support" Obama has offered women specifically is to make copious amounts of birth control available to everyone for free.

And if one wants to call that "support" I suppose it's their prerogative but I fail to see how the definition of the word applies here.


I realize some women think free access to abortion for any reason and at any point is some sort of awesome feat Obama accomplished in the name of women (last I checked Roe v. Wade had nothing to do with him). I also realize many people in general think access to birth control and abortion is some sort of progress on the gender equality front.

I'm sorry but I fail to see it that way.

A woman aborting a baby is a heck of a lot cheaper and a heck of a lot more convenient for businesses and our government in general than supporting a woman who goes through a pregnancy, and then has a raises a child.

Abortion is the easy way out. Biden himself has voiced his approval for China's one child per family law. Theirs is an administration who does NOT support family. They support the opposite of family.

They've done nothing to support PREGNANT women. They've done nothing to support NEW MOTHERS.They've done nothing to support NEW FATHERS so that they in turn can help out those new mothers. They've done nothing to support families who WANT children and to grow their families.

They've done the opposite in fact landing more breadwinners out of work and throwing millions of people under the poverty line. More women than EVER before now live under the poverty line. More families than ever struggling just to keep a roof over their heads and foods in their stomachs.

I don't understand how people can say their support of terminating life has anything to do with supporting women's rights or families.

(on a side note a lot of good Obamacare will do if women can't afford to eat .....)





I was impressed that Romney ACTUALLY answered the question about what he would DO, as opposed to deflecting off onto a topic that has nothing to do with the question like Obama did.

Did anyone catch that the woman that posed that question was shaking ROMNEY'S hand at the end and was refusing to even make eye contact with Obama? I knew exactly where her head had gone, mine went there too. It was also obvious that her undecided vote was no longer undecided.....



Although I am not a fan of any sort of targeted recruiting of any kind at least Romney has shown a genuine and valid effort when it comes to trying to better meet the needs of women specifically in the work force.

His comments about making sure those women could get home and tend to their families were imho, realistic. Like it or not, choose to acknowledge it or not, the pull to directly care for the children in a family IS typically much stronger for women that it is for men. This goes back to very basic evolutionary principles. Things between women and men in this regard will ALWAYS be different and "fair" will always be subjective. My husband can't end up the pregnant one, is that "fair?" He can't breastfeed, is that "fair?" If my instincts are to nurture and his are to provide, is that "fair?"

Government cannot and will not ever be able to equalize biology. Why some seem hell bent on trying is beyond my comprehension.

If my husband wants to be home at 5 to take care of the kids as Romney commented to then sure, he should have that right and ability to. But if more moms feel that pull and some one in a position of political power wants to recognize the fact then I think that's a valid and ACTUAL gain for women and who they inherently are driven to be.



Obama stumbled and stuttered through most of his responses and he often went off on terribly irrelevant bird walks.

I had to bust out a bottle of wine about half way through because I was genuinely getting irritated by his refusal to actually answer any of the questions asked of him by the undecided voters.

The thing that stuck with me most is his insistence that if re-elected he was "going to do" this that and the other......I cannot buy that someone who had ample opportunity to do this, that and the other, but who chose not to for FOUR YEARS, is all of a sudden going to change their status quo.

Can he not see why people are so doubtful of his intentions?



Especially after he said if he didn't accomplish this, that and the other within his first term that he promised he would never seek another?

And then went back on his word regarding that too?

[lovemykidstoo]

Did anyone hear this morning how Romneys son said he wanted to punch Obama during the debate? Of course only 1 channel played the whole interview where he said in the same sentence that of course he coudln't do that and he really wouldn't do that blah blah, but I thought it was pretty funny because I wanted to slap him too and he wasn't debating with my dad. But, of course, they will spin that terribly out of context

[Blackcat31]

Did anyone hear this morning how Romneys son said he wanted to punch Obama during the debate? Of course only 1 channel played the whole interview where he said in the same sentence that of course he coudln't do that and he really wouldn't do that blah blah, but I thought it was pretty funny because I wanted to slap him too and he wasn't debating with my dad. But, of course, they will spin that terribly out of context

I like how the media is twisting that comment too.

The entire thing was a response about how he (Romneys son) felt while listening to Obama call his father a liar.

I think the host asked him "How did it feel to hear the President call your father a liar?"

I would think that any loving child would feel the exact same way if someone was calling their father names.

Interesting tid-bit about manners during the debate.
# of interuptions by the moderator = 9,
# of interuptions by Romney = 8,
# of interuptions by Obama = 23.

[laundrymom]

I've learned more from the respectful debating discussion between you awesome people than any debate I've ever seen. Thanks guys.

[Michael]

I've learned more from the respectful debating discussion between you awesome people than any debate I've ever seen. Thanks guys.

The respect and openness to indifference here is something the country and our politicians need more of. When we work together we are a better nation.

[saved4always]

I am not voting for Obama. But, I will say I LOVE planned Parenthood.

I am Christian. But, Christians don't have a good alternative to Planned Parenthood. They (we) act like "But, we have crisis pregnancy". "Um.. NO... you have a group of women in an office with a video tape about abortion.. you have no actual HELP for women. No health care, no, birth control, no women's center at ALL. Just an office space and magazines"


When Christians open a women's health center with low cost or free health care geared specifically to women's needs then I will throw myself into that arena with all my enthusiasm. But, until then, I am on team Planned Parenthood.

Where I live there are 2 Christian Crisis pregnancy centers. They do MUCH more than have an office and videos. These centers offer parenting classes, support groups, counseling, ultrasounds (they have a new mobile unit that can go where the need is), baby items (free for emergency and can be "earned" when take part in a program), budgeting and nutrition classes, and more. My husband and I support these centers financially because we know they are making a difference for mothers, fathers and babies. Planned Parenthood likes to tout it's own horn about women's rights and how they are about medical care for women. But they make the bulk of their money on abortions (i.e. killing babies) which, IMHO, is the reason they fight so very hard to keep it legal.

[saved4always]

I like how the media is twisting that comment too.

The entire thing was a response about how he (Romneys son) felt while listening to Obama call his father a liar.

I think the host asked him "How did it feel to hear the President call your father a liar?"

I would think that any loving child would feel the exact same way if someone was calling their father names.

Interesting tid-bit about manners during the debate.
# of interuptions by the moderator = 9,
# of interuptions by Romney = 8,
# of interuptions by Obama = 23.

Very interesting tidbits .

I honestly have not been following this election very much. It annoys me more than interests me. I am voting for Romney only because I have not seen Obama do anything positive for this country, especially with the amount of government debt my children are going to be inheriting. My vote for Romney is my vote against Obama.

This pretty much sums it up for me: My husband just told me that Ross Perot has endorsed Romney. And Kim Kardashian and Hugo Chavez both endorsed Obama. I try not to vote for anyone endorsed by dictators or reality show celebrities. ::

[MyAngels]

I've learned more from the respectful debating discussion between you awesome people than any debate I've ever seen. Thanks guys.

Maybe we should all run for Congress. I hear they have great healthcare and a nice pension plan .

[laundrymom]

Maybe we should all run for Congress. I hear they have great healthcare and a nice pension plan .

Ummmm I'm honest, open minded, non filtered, and don't like wearing shoes. I think I'm good in early education. Lol.

[MyAngels]

Ummmm I'm honest, open minded, non filtered, and don't like wearing shoes. I think I'm good in early education. Lol.

Our unique skill set would be put to such good use, though. I can see it now: "Senator Durbin, you will need to have a seat in the quiet corner until you can speak kindly to Senator McConnell." ::

[laundrymom]

Our unique skill set would be put to such good use, though. I can see it now: "Senator Durbin, you will need to have a seat in the quiet corner until you can speak kindly to Senator McConnell." ::

Lo omg! I just for REAL. Snorted milk out my nose!!!!!