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  • youretooloud
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 1955

    #16
    Originally posted by SunshineMama
    We can all act offended like he isn't giving women equal rights, but let's be real: Women are still the ones who do most of the childcare, housework, cooking, etc for the family. AND women are also working outside of the home.
    This is true.... Even if many men got off work two hours before his wife, she'd still have to fix dinner, bathe the kids and put them to bed. Out of my entire group, I have one dad who shares equally in the child raising, cooking and housework. The other dads might do drop off or pick up...but, if they are left in charge of dinner, they stop for Mcdonalds or pizza. So, mom works 9 hours, and still has five hours of work to do at home.

    Dad watches Tv. It sounds like i'm making a sexist generality, but it's reality.

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    • youretooloud
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 1955

      #17
      I am not voting for Obama. But, I will say I LOVE planned Parenthood.

      I am Christian. But, Christians don't have a good alternative to Planned Parenthood. They (we) act like "But, we have crisis pregnancy". "Um.. NO... you have a group of women in an office with a video tape about abortion.. you have no actual HELP for women. No health care, no, birth control, no women's center at ALL. Just an office space and magazines"


      When Christians open a women's health center with low cost or free health care geared specifically to women's needs then I will throw myself into that arena with all my enthusiasm. But, until then, I am on team Planned Parenthood.

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      • SunflowerMama
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 1113

        #18
        Originally posted by youretooloud
        I am Christian. But, Christians don't have a good alternative to Planned Parenthood. They (we) act like "But, we have crisis pregnancy". "Um.. NO... you have a group of women in an office with a video tape about abortion.. you have no actual HELP for women. No health care, no, birth control, no women's center at ALL. Just an office space and magazines"


        When Christians open a women's health center with low cost or free health care geared specifically to women's needs then I will throw myself into that arena with all my enthusiasm. But, until then, I am on team Planned Parenthood.
        I agree with this 100%. I am a Christian too and a democrat (it is possible) and I totally agree in the need for Planned Parenthood and education beyond abstinence.

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        • Childminder
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 1500

          #19
          Obama was raised by women, has two daughters and is in what appears to be an equal yet supportive marriage with a very strong independent women.

          Romney is the father of five sons, married to a women and the son of another that both have followed in the traditions of the Morman church to be subjacated to their husbands.

          I can't see that Romney would go against his belief and the traditions of his religion to go out of his way to support women's rights. It has been a very short time since blacks have been allowed into the Church of LDS priesthood. For this reason I do not support Romney and will support Obama. Romney also threw my family under the bus because he was not supportive of the auto industry a few years past.
          I see little people.

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          • Blackcat31
            • Oct 2010
            • 36124

            #20
            Although I feel womens health is an important topic, I am more concerned about what will happen with education.

            The national education system is mired in a deep crisis, as funding, teachers, student loans, social, and a myriad of other issues threaten to bring the already declining standards of American education even lower

            I think if this country is to ever be what it once was, we need to start focusing on how to teach our children to be strong leaders and to be educated.

            I don't think we are doing any good right now by allowing kids to slip through the cracks and not meeting their individual needs but instead focusing on a one size fits all type of education system.

            I have heard enough horror stories about public school that I am seriously concerned.

            I have several teacher parents and even had one tell me the other day that she was tenured so she no longer has to work hard at her job.

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            • MyAngels
              Member
              • Aug 2010
              • 4217

              #21
              Originally posted by JenNJ
              But why can't Romney understand that flexibility to ALL workers is what is best for women and helps close that gap? I see a LOT of women with flex schedules now, which is great. But what a lot of women need is an equally flexible schedule for their partners so that they aren't doing it all alone.

              Giving preferential treatment to women in the workforce isn't equality. Equality is fighting for reasonable labor laws for ALL workers, not just women. Paternity leave for men, without judgement; paid time off/flex schedules for men so that they can deal with family illness/emergencies/etc.; and moving past the boys club that is after hours networking. Understanding that kids need their fathers as much as they need their mothers. Not holding back any worker who values family above business.

              That is what will shatter the glass ceiling. Equal working rights for both sexes.

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              • Sugar Magnolia
                Blossoms Blooming
                • Apr 2011
                • 2647

                #22
                I vote Detroit Tigers.

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                • lovemykidstoo
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 4740

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Sugar Magnolia
                  I vote Detroit Tigers.
                  Well since I'm from Michigan, I would have to agree!!

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                  • MN Mom
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 399

                    #24
                    Originally posted by youretooloud
                    This is true.... Even if many men got off work two hours before his wife, she'd still have to fix dinner, bathe the kids and put them to bed. Out of my entire group, I have one dad who shares equally in the child raising, cooking and housework. The other dads might do drop off or pick up...but, if they are left in charge of dinner, they stop for Mcdonalds or pizza. So, mom works 9 hours, and still has five hours of work to do at home.

                    Dad watches Tv. It sounds like i'm making a sexist generality, but it's reality.
                    It IS the common reality, sadly. However, the Government can't enact laws or regulate via policy men's instincts/positions on household duties, as much as women would like to believe. Only women and men (individuals) can do that.

                    After YEARS of pleading with my husband to help with the household duties more, and YEARS of him responding with , "well I work 10 hours a day...blah blah blah..." ; I decided to get a job outside of the home so that MAYBE he'd pitch in, since his excuse was founded on working outside the home. I was dead wrong. I was up and out the door before he was, and I was home 3 hours after he'd already been home. He did nothing but play computer and watch TV to relax. IF I asked him to do something, he'd make my eldest 2 daughters do it (laundry, dishes, cooking). Not that I'm opposed to the kids pitching it, but it wasn't the point. He would NOT lift a finger, make the 'girls' do it instead, let my son do whatever he wanted, and then NOT follow through to make sure they even did it right. I had so much to do when I got home, and I was so exhausted, I quit after three weeks.

                    I'm voting for Romney/Ryan. Obama can talk the talk....but he has NO clue how to walk the walk. I don't trust him. I don't believe he will do what he says. I believe he has the majority of the media at his beck and call. I don't like his cover-up of Libya. I don't like the healthcare mandate which caused me to lose my CURRENT insurance due to rising costs, and regulations. I don't like the gas prices. I don't like the grocery store prices. I don't like that my husband is making LESS money doing the SAME job he was 5 years ago, and it wasn't that great of pay 5 years ago. Our family cannot survive 4 more years of this bullcrap.

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                    • youretooloud
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1955

                      #25
                      Originally posted by MN Mom
                      I believe he has the majority of the media at his beck and call. I don't like his cover-up of Libya. I don't like the healthcare mandate which caused me to lose my CURRENT insurance due to rising costs, and regulations. I don't like the gas prices. I don't like the grocery store prices. I don't like that my husband is making LESS money doing the SAME job he was 5 years ago, and it wasn't that great of pay 5 years ago. Our family cannot survive 4 more years of this bullcrap.

                      My husband is also making less money that he was four years ago, to do the same job, and even more work. Plus, now our health care is costing us twice as much as it was three years ago. Smaller paycheck, plus much of it being taken out for health care.


                      My Best friend is on state paid health care, and she trots in to the doctor for even tiny things that most people wouldn't go in for. She DEMANDS tons of things at her doctor and gets it. I only get letters from our insurance telling us "Due to rising costs....We are no longer paying for XYZ test, we will pay for it this one time, but will no longer cover that service". My friend wants to get a job, but if she does, she'll lose her free health care.

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                      • Michael
                        Founder & Owner-Daycare.com
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 7947

                        #26
                        Pushing the poll back up. I would like to get a few more votes. This clicker will only be taking votes until Sunday at which time it will close for the last debate.

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                        • emmajo
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 50

                          #27
                          Romney is so backward and so wrong on so many things that effect women! Stuns me to see that any woman thinks he would be any sort of improvement over Obama. Yes the President needs to do more, but I believe that much of the problem stems from the fact that the Republicans i congress decided that their main plan from his first day in office was to see that he would get nothing done and would not get a 2nd term. And yet - he has done much good for the country and is cleaning up the mess from previous administration.

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                          • MN Mom
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 399

                            #28
                            Originally posted by emmajo
                            Romney is so backward and so wrong on so many things that effect women! Stuns me to see that any woman thinks he would be any sort of improvement over Obama. Yes the President needs to do more, but I believe that much of the problem stems from the fact that the Republicans i congress decided that their main plan from his first day in office was to see that he would get nothing done and would not get a 2nd term. And yet - he has done much good for the country and is cleaning up the mess from previous administration.
                            Democrats controlled both the House and the Senate for the first TWO YEARS of Obama's presidency. So please explain to me how it's the Republicans fault he got nothing done? Healthcare BARELY PASSED WITH a supermajority. There hasn't been an 'official' budget passed in what...3 years? C'mon, let's get real here....Romney isn't going to do anything to take away women's rights. His priority will be to get this stink hole of an economy straightened out. If he doesn't..I promise you...he will be a one termer too.

                            Perhaps you should stop listening to Rachel Madcow...er Maddow and Chris "Tingle up my Leg" Matthews and start reading a larger variety of sources to brush up on current events?

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                            • lovemykidstoo
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 4740

                              #29
                              Originally posted by MN Mom
                              Democrats controlled both the House and the Senate for the first TWO YEARS of Obama's presidency. So please explain to me how it's the Republicans fault he got nothing done? Healthcare BARELY PASSED WITH a supermajority. There hasn't been an 'official' budget passed in what...3 years? C'mon, let's get real here....Romney isn't going to do anything to take away women's rights. His priority will be to get this stink hole of an economy straightened out. If he doesn't..I promise you...he will be a one termer too.

                              Perhaps you should stop listening to Rachel Madcow...er Maddow and Chris "Tingle up my Leg" Matthews and start reading a larger variety of sources to brush up on current events?
                              Exactly,my God does noone remember that the Democrats were in control? That drives me insane!!! Also, what rights exactly are people concerned with Romney taking away? Not to be picky, but in my opinion the economy really is the biggest issue right now, not some piddly things that some are focused on and I'm not necessarily meaning here on this board.

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                              • DCMom
                                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 871

                                #30
                                Originally posted by MN Mom
                                Democrats controlled both the House and the Senate for the first TWO YEARS of Obama's presidency. So please explain to me how it's the Republicans fault he got nothing done? Healthcare BARELY PASSED WITH a supermajority. There hasn't been an 'official' budget passed in what...3 years? C'mon, let's get real here....Romney isn't going to do anything to take away women's rights. His priority will be to get this stink hole of an economy straightened out. If he doesn't..I promise you...he will be a one termer too.


                                The middle east in chaos, this country is on the verge of bankruptcy and we continue to spend-spend-spend, our credit rating was downgraded for the first time in history. There are bigger things to worry about than 'womens health'.

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