DCB Has Serious Issues :/

[busymommy0420]

Please file a report.

I agree. It is imperative for his safety and the safety for others around him that he gets the help he needs!

[SilverSabre25]

What they said...I hope everything works out...for everyone around him if not for him too.

[MommyofThree]

Thank you. I know you are absolutely right and this is sooo difficult for me. I really just need other dcp's to confirm what my head is telling me. I have been stressed about it for 2 days now (since they returned from break and dcm told me the horrible truth). He is off today and honestly, I don't want him to come back now after reading my own post.

I wondered about the reporting it thing, too. I had even thought about talking to his school's counselor but really, IT ISN'T MY PLACE and as you said, it isn't my problem. Sigh.

This is just horrible for me. I try to stay emotionally detached, but, well....

Actually it is your place to call CPS NOWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!! He has a little sister that god knows he could hurt that baby while mom is sleeping. This kid needs help and if mom wont find help then u as a dcp need to step in and protect that baby girl!!!!!!!!!!

[LittleD]

Actually it is your place to call CPS NOWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!! He has a little sister that god knows he could hurt that baby while mom is sleeping. This kid needs help and if mom wont find help then u as a dcp need to step in and protect that baby girl!!!!!!!!!!

That's what I was thinking! Today the dog, but tomorrow what if its his sister who goes into his room, or plays with his toy, or something else that upstes him??

[sharlan]

I have to agree with the others. You have to term this child ASAP.

You are aware of his abusive behavior towards adults. You are aware of his abusive behavior towards animals. If you turn your back on him for one second and a child is injured in anyway, you will be held liable.

You have an obligation to the other children in your care. You have an obligation to your assistant and to your own children.

You need to report this to CPS tomorrow.

As much as we would all like to, we cannot save all the children in the world. We just do not have what it takes. We do not have the necessary training.

[Kaddidle Care]

Very scary.

This is why many breeders won't sell puppies to families that have children under the age of 5. I hope it will be a painful lesson to the Mother to not trust this child with his sister. The whole stairs thing makes me cringe.

The boy does not understand the finality of death. Not unusual for a child under 4 but at 6 he should realize that what he did was terribly wrong.

[MN Mom]

This is profoundly serious. Do not allow the temptation of the loss of money from the sibling steer you into deciding to "work" with him and to super supervise him so you can have the money. If that's what you are doing right now in your head... stop it. You can't have the money and the safety of you, your home, your kids, your staff, your dc kids. You can't. Period.

You need to call the Mom and tell her he can not return. He is displaying signs that are seen in serial killers as children. His biting an adult, his joy and the death, his joy at deception, his evasive answers regarding the hampster, and the killing of the puppy for no reason other than "words" to you and his Mom.

This is a DEVESTATING and needs IMMEDIATE law enforcement action and a child psychiatrist. I would not only call child protective... I would call the police RIGHT NOW. This needs to leave your hands TO-DAY and get into the hands of professionals. It's not up to YOU and it's not up to MOM. This is a serious crime and it needs to be reported.

I agree with Nan. This child is displaying classic behavior of a Psychopath. He needs professional help. Now.

[laundrymom]

Any update? I have been sick with worry for OP all night because of the choice and action she has to make today.

[littlemissmuffet]

Thank you. I know you are absolutely right and this is sooo difficult for me. I really just need other dcp's to confirm what my head is telling me. I have been stressed about it for 2 days now (since they returned from break and dcm told me the horrible truth). He is off today and honestly, I don't want him to come back now after reading my own post.

I wondered about the reporting it thing, too. I had even thought about talking to his school's counselor but really, IT ISN'T MY PLACE and as you said, it isn't my problem. Sigh.

This is just horrible for me. I try to stay emotionally detached, but, well....

Yes, it IS your place, and yes it IS your problem. I'm sorry but it's people with this attitude who turn the other cheek and close their eyes to situations like this, pass the buck and then people get seriously harmed or DIE because of it. Trust me, a good friend of mine was abused almost to death and there were almost a hundred witnesses and nobody came forward to report to police because they didn't think it was their place.

[Mary Poppins]

Well it's done. I contacted DHS and our local LE as everyone suggested. It is out of my hands. I told her when she came to drop them off that I had no choice and offered to call dcb's school counselor. She declined and told me that DHS had already contacted her so someone else (she thinks it was her Mom) had already called in about this.

The thing is, dcb (and dcm) insisted that although he did it out of anger, he didn't think the puppy would die. So she has decided it was an "accident" and will probably tell LE as much.

Either way, I told her he can't return to dc and I'll find out Monday if dcg will be coming back. The whole situation ****s but it is dealt with and what a load off my mind!!

Thanks everyone for your support and for saying exactly what I needed to hear. I hope this post, in turn, helps other dcp's do the right thing even though it is REALLY EFFING HARD!!!

[nannyde]

Well it's done. I contacted DHS and our local LE as everyone suggested. It is out of my hands. I told her when she came to drop them off that I had no choice and offered to call dcb's school counselor. She declined and told me that DHS had already contacted her so someone else (she thinks it was her Mom) had already called in about this.

The thing is, dcb (and dcm) insisted that although he did it out of anger, he didn't think the puppy would die. So she has decided it was an "accident" and will probably tell LE as much.

Either way, I told her he can't return to dc and I'll find out Monday if dcg will be coming back. The whole situation ****s but it is dealt with and what a load off my mind!!

Thanks everyone for your support and for saying exactly what I needed to hear. I hope this post, in turn, helps other dcp's do the right thing even though it is REALLY EFFING HARD!!!

It doesn't matter what the Mom thinks it was. Her opinion on this means nothing.

What does matter is that YOU make sure that you tell LE EVERTYHING you told us. The puppy being thrown down the stairs and dying is one part of this. The most telling part is his deception and his happiness at the deception and his happiness throughout the day.

Please... if you were not as specific with LE as you were with us... then call them back and tell them this. You also need to tell them about the biting of the adult. That's HIGHLY unusual for a child his age. They need to have everything you know and feel. You have known this kid for a year so you can attest to the chronic lying, behavior issues, targeting your female staff, etc. That info is just as important as the act of hurting the puppy.

Did you tell them about the hampster?

[Mary Poppins]

It doesn't matter what the Mom thinks it was. Her opinion on this means nothing.

What does matter is that YOU make sure that you tell LE EVERTYHING you told us. The puppy being thrown down the stairs and dying is one part of this. The most telling part is his deception and his happiness at the deception and his happiness throughout the day.

Please... if you were not as specific with LE as you were with us... then call them back and tell them this. You also need to tell them about the biting of the adult. That's HIGHLY unusual for a child his age. They need to have everything you know and feel. You have known this kid for a year so you can attest to the chronic lying, behavior issues, targeting your female staff, etc. That info is just as important as the act of hurting the puppy.

Did you tell them about the hampster?

I told them everything and even made copies of the notes I've taken which had a few things I'd forgotten but I felt were significant. I just hope he gets the help he needs now.

[Mary Poppins]

I should add that I was completely floored by the fact that today she not only told me she now thinks it was an "accident" but that she's been giving dcb "extra special attention" to help him get over his guilt.

She even sent him here with a new toy she bought him yesterday because he has "not been able to sleep since the accident". So obviously he is manipulating this and she is buying into it. Ridiculous!!

[busymommy0420]

Well it's done. I contacted DHS and our local LE as everyone suggested. It is out of my hands. I told her when she came to drop them off that I had no choice and offered to call dcb's school counselor. She declined and told me that DHS had already contacted her so someone else (she thinks it was her Mom) had already called in about this.

The thing is, dcb (and dcm) insisted that although he did it out of anger, he didn't think the puppy would die. So she has decided it was an "accident" and will probably tell LE as much.

Either way, I told her he can't return to dc and I'll find out Monday if dcg will be coming back. The whole situation ****s but it is dealt with and what a load off my mind!!

Thanks everyone for your support and for saying exactly what I needed to hear. I hope this post, in turn, helps other dcp's do the right thing even though it is REALLY EFFING HARD!!!

Hugs to you...and prayers that he gets the help he needs! lovethis

[Blackcat31]

I should add that I was completely floored by the fact that today she not only told me she now thinks it was an "accident" but that she's been giving dcb "extra special attention" to help him get over his guilt.

She even sent him here with a new toy she bought him yesterday because he has "not been able to sleep since the accident". So obviously he is manipulating this and she is buying into it. Ridiculous!!

You did the right thing. No matter what happens, no matter how hard it is to deal with and no matter how difficult, you did EXACTLY what needed to be done.

((((hugs)))) for having to have gone through this but again, you did the right thing.