Children With NO Vaccinations!

[Blackcat31]

I can’t believe all of you are so keen on waivers and money and fines but not one of you have listed the ingredients in the vaccines? For one, human diploid cell is listed on the package insert I don’t think any of you have asked the doctor for before administration. It lists it on the cdc site itself. It even lists sids and autism as a side effect amongst the hundred other side effects. It says formaldehyde solution, human diploid lung fibroblasts (aborted fetal tissue) chick embryo, bovine serum, monkey kidney, latex, peanut derivative, wheat germ, ect. And it states that GM yeast bacterial and viral DNA can incorporate into recipients DNA and cause unknown genetic mutations. Go read it all for yourself. I for one will forever refuse anymore vaccines after almost losing my son within 72 hours after 4 shots were administered. It took my son almost dying to do enough research to realize the industry became immune from lawsuit since 1986 and they were charged with knowing the SV cancer virus was contaminated in our polio vaccine in the beginning. That they were just fined over 15 billion and they just went back to doing it. That 75,000 have died from the MMR vaccine already and the billions in compensation to vaccine injured children. And guess what, the same people that own the patents, are in control of our media and pharmaceutical industry. My last two are by far the healthiest and it is well known natural acquired immunity is far better than injection that by passes your immune system and can overload and kill your liver,spleen, and appendix. We wonder where our autoimmune issues and allergies are coming from when they were unheard of before vaccination. That every disease declined before vaccines were ever introduced. Something that bypasses your blood brain barrier. We are to give no more than 26mcg max of aluminum to a child yet they are receiving 250mg on their first dose. Wonder about all those shaken baby syndromes where parents are out in jail and they say they never did it. It’s the encephalitis from the Dtap shot and the uncontrollable screaming. This world wants money. How is my child that has never even been exposed to the diseases you’ve injected into yourself a harm to you? If anything we are cleaner and safer than anyone who has been. And Remeber in 1990 you may have got 8-14 shots as you got older. They require 74 now with my kids. Screw that. If we were fine why more now? Why has our autism rate skyrocketed to every 1-1,000 ? And if I breastfeed my immunities for what I was vaccinated against, should be passed to my children anyways. Please do your research. And realize that vaccines shed anywhere from a couple weeks to a month. And every pertussis epidemic was caused by the ones vaccinated for it. They are the ones spreading it. Not the ones who have never been exposed. All info you can reseRch for yourself. Remember google sensors anything against vaccination even vaccine injured claims settled in court. Pinterest is the only thing left uncensored

Your opinion is just that. Your opinion. Every parent is allowed to do as they choose to do just as every business owner is allowed to make whatever choices they choose to make for their business.

As a parent you have that right as well.

You are part of the reason kids are dying

The best way to get others to listen and agree is to educate verses pointing fingers.

Those that believe in vaccinations feel the reason there is so much illness etc is because of people like you.

The finger points both ways.

[Cat Herder]

I can’t believe all of you are so keen on waivers and money and fines but not one of you have listed the ingredients in the vaccines?

Because we don't care. That is between the parent and doctor to discuss.

We LEGALLY can not enroll unvaccinated children without a medical waiver. Period.

Work out the issue with your doctor, get the waiver signed and let us carry on with our business legally.

There is nothing special about this.

[Leigh]

You are part of the reason kids are dying

:::::::::::::: SCIENCE. It's real. Crazies on the internet? Not so much.

[Unregistered]

I heard of this, but what religions do this? Do other parents have the right to know about this?

Doesn't matter. Legally, parents can not be questioned about their religion. All they have to say is it is against their religion. They do not have to say what that religion is.

[amberrose3dg]

Doesn't matter. Legally, parents can not be questioned about their religion. All they have to say is it is against their religion. They do not have to say what that religion is.

Here in WV religion is not a valid excuse for a waiver. If they do not have medical waiver we cannot enroll them period!
I won't get into why vaccines are good versus bad. I know that people died of polio before the vaccine though.

[Cat Herder]

Doesn't matter. Legally, parents can not be questioned about their religion. All they have to say is it is against their religion. They do not have to say what that religion is.

They still must have the doctor sign the waiver to be enrolled in group childcare in most states. This discussion is between parents and doctors, not childcare providers. All we care about is the expiration date and signature on the form, so we don't get cited/fined, the rest is no business of ours.

It makes no difference to us what religion a parent is.

[Unregistered]

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[Cat Herder]

You may want to register. Few will click a link from an unregistered poster.

[Blackcat31]

You may want to register. Few will click a link from an unregistered poster.

Its nothing more than a document with the blanks filled in stating that some southern district in New York was granted permission to file a law suit to get full disclosure in regards to vaccines. According to Google (double checked if it was actually valid via Pinterest ) this same document was voluntarily dismissed. (see pic below)

The document also appears on several other sites but the info (the fill in the blanks) say something relevant to that state/issue so bottom line; the link is just a standard form letter type document.
NO idea why unregisted even posted it.
It has NO relevance to us (child care providers/business owners)

[Cat Herder]

Its nothing more than a document with the blanks filled in stating that some southern district in New York was granted permission to file a law suit to get full disclosure in regards to vaccines. According to Google (double checked if it was actually valid via Pinterest ) this same document was voluntarily dismissed. (see pic below)

The document also appears on several other sites but the info (the fill in the blanks) say something relevant to that state/issue so bottom line; the link is just a standard form letter type document.
NO idea why unregisted even posted it.
It has NO relevance to us (child care providers/business owners)

Thanks

I get the immunization topic is important to parents, I just feel they put too much of the drama of it on us when we have no power in this discussion.

It is like arguing the effectiveness of waste water treatment regulations and tap water purity with your plumber.

[MarinaVanessa]

It is like arguing the effectiveness of waste water treatment regulations and tap water purity with your plumber.

I wish parents thought about this in regards to licensing and other state regulations. No sense in arguing it with us, we just have to follow the law.

[Unregistered]

Confused

How can anyone get sick if the “vaccinated “ child is vaccinated? That makes no sense especially if staff members and parents are paying attention and taking the requirements to deny children at the door if they are sick . Just like anyone if your child isn’t vaccinated just build their immune systems up . If they do get sick then just heal them as if you would do a vaccinated child .

[Cat Herder]

How can anyone get sick if the “vaccinated “ child is vaccinated? That makes no sense especially if staff members and parents are paying attention and taking the requirements to deny children at the door if they are sick . Just like anyone if your child isn’t vaccinated just build their immune systems up . If they do get sick then just heal them as if you would do a vaccinated child .

Mutation.

It is a law so a moot point.

[Mariposa]

Another old post revived.
I wonder how the now 10 year old is.

Someone on page 1 also from Wa had a good idea going.
It does mean if there is an outbreak the daycare closes.


I have it list that they are not required but highly recommended, and here MMR is mandated.
But I will not fill out the sheet for them. With corporate companies I had to if they did not, I have filled out hundreds. Then input it on the computer. Done!

[Jo123ABC]

The child without the vaccines would be at more risk than you would be. If you and the other children in your care are vaccinated and the vaccines work like they are supposed to work then there shouldn't be anything to worry about.

All my current families happen to be vaccinated I haven't decided where I stand on the issue - I guess I will cross that bridge when I get to it. For those of you who refuse children based on their choice not to vaccinate, be sure that you DO NOT tell them that this is the reason they are being refused/ terminated.

I've started asking during the interview whether their shots are current. I don't do pets or smokers so I also ask them in the interview whether they have either. Sometimes, I don't even have to ask! Those are the worst.

You don't accept families with pets? Interesting! I've never heard of a provider doing that. Do you have allergies? Is it discrimination to ask about smoking? I haven't run into this issue yet so hadn't even thought of it.