Children With NO Vaccinations!

[Blackcat31]

(repeating mantra in my head...."I will not respond to this ancient dead thread and the ridiculous post above, I will not respond to this ancient dead thread and the ridiculous post above, I will not respond to this ancient dead thread and the ridiculous post above...........")

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I had to resist the urge to edit and correct spelling. I cannot stand people who feel they have a valid point but don't or can't take the time to spell things out correctly. While reading it, I felt like it was a super long text from a teenager.

[SilverSabre25]

(repeating mantra in my head...."I will not respond to this ancient dead thread and the ridiculous post above, I will not respond to this ancient dead thread and the ridiculous post above, I will not respond to this ancient dead thread and the ridiculous post above...........")

I have no urge to respond to that...I can barely read it!

But, I can't resist this: formaldehyde (and I didn't even have to use spell check or look it up!)

I didn't know vaccines had monkey parts though...how does the spleen fit through the syringe?

and...well, yeah.

[WDW]

Pardon me? That comment about "monster parents" was completely and utterly unacceptable. There are MANY reasons that parents choose to not have their children vacinated and quite honestly, NONE of those reasons are your business.

While I agree that monster parents weren't the right word choice, I believe in vaccines and the sentiment of giving your child every chance. I don't judge those who believe differently, however, I have chosen to NOT accept any child that isn't fully vaccinated. My state allows a waiver, my home does not. The point..if a person wants to bring their child to me, those types of things ARE my business, from the moment you bring it into MY HOME.

[littlemissmuffet]

While I agree that monster parents weren't the right word choice, I believe in vaccines and the sentiment of giving your child every chance. I don't judge those who believe differently, however, I have chosen to NOT accept any child that isn't fully vaccinated. My state allows a waiver, my home does not. The point..if a person wants to bring their child to me, those types of things ARE my business, from the moment you bring it into MY HOME.

It's your business to turn a family away because the child isn't vaccinated. The reasons the child isn't vaccinated isn't your business.

Oh and by the way, the parents who believe that their child developed illness, a life-long diasability or even died from vaccinations would argue your point that vaccinations "give your child every chance".

[Scout]

Personally I would turn away an unvaccinated family. My son was in childcare since 11 weeks & was.always.sick. . his first few years were constant battles of something or another. If i had to worry he could contract measles or polio would never have rested!
I choose to vaccinate my children & I breastfeed my kids...that is my choice but, it doesnt mean I have to feel awful everytime your child gets sick!
And for the record....I see spelling errors all the time on this forum, myself included!

[Oneluckymom]

I JUST enrolled a DCB 3yrs, who has not been vaccinated. I am also going to be taking in an infant in may who will be about 5 months. The thought of exposing an infant to any potential diseases really never crossed my mind at that time. I also have a 12 month old of course who received vaccinations.

I was concerned about the no vaccines personally and worried about any possible exposures.

Do you think I would be putting the new infant in may in any possible danger?

[MyAngels]

I have no urge to respond to that...I can barely read it!

But, I can't resist this: formaldehyde (and I didn't even have to use spell check or look it up!)

I didn't know vaccines had monkey parts though...how does the spleen fit through the syringe?

and...well, yeah.

Cripes, now you make me want to actually go back and read it ::. I only got through the first line...

[SilverSabre25]

I JUST enrolled a DCB 3yrs, who has not been vaccinated. I am also going to be taking in an infant in may who will be about 5 months. The thought of exposing an infant to any potential diseases really never crossed my mind at that time. I also have a 12 month old of course who received vaccinations.

I was concerned about the no vaccines personally and worried about any possible exposures.

Do you think I would be putting the new infant in may in any possible danger?

No.

The viruses and bacteria that cause those diseases are not just floating around in the air and present on every surface waiting for an unvaccinated person to wander by in order to infect them and make them sick...that's not how it works. The chance of the unvax child bringing in a vaccine preventable disease is so negligible as to be pretty much completely unmentionable.

[SilverSabre25]

Cripes, now you make me want to actually go back and read it ::. I only got through the first line...

I didn't get much beyond the first few lines.

And I wouldn't have corrected the spelling except that the word "formaldehyde" was mangled ridiculously!

[Blackcat31]

Personally I would turn away an unvaccinated family. My son was in childcare since 11 weeks & was.always.sick. . his first few years were constant battles of something or another. If i had to worry he could contract measles or polio would never have rested!
I choose to vaccinate my children & I breastfeed my kids...that is my choice but, it doesnt mean I have to feel awful everytime your child gets sick!
And for the record....I see spelling errors all the time on this forum, myself included!

Fwiw~ I wasn't dissing the actual spelling errors as much as I was commenting on the "text talk".

If you (any poster) are trying to make a valid point in a discussion, then take the time to spell out the words. Such as "you are" instead of "u r".

I also understand that some posters are posting from their smart phones but I still feel that to be taken a bit more seriously, talk or type as an adult.

I felt like the whole post was one long text message from a teenager.


Also, kids that are in daycare for the first time ALL tend to be sick a little more than normal since their exposure to normal illnesses and ailments is new and their little bodies haven't had a chance to build up any immunities yet. I don't think that type of sickness has anything to do with vaccines.

[Scout]

Fwiw~ I wasn't dissing the actual spelling errors as much as I was commenting on the "text talk".

If you (any poster) are trying to make a valid point in a discussion, then take the time to spell out the words. Such as "you are" instead of "u r".

I also understand that some posters are posting from their smart phones but I still feel that to be taken a bit more seriously, talk or type as an adult.

I felt like the whole post was one long text message from a teenager.


Also, kids that are in daycare for the first time ALL tend to be sick a little more than normal since their exposure to normal illnesses and ailments is new and their little bodies haven't had a chance to build up any immunities yet. I don't think that type of sickness has anything to do with vaccines.

I agree with the speeling out of words but, as a smartphone only poster I have to tell you it can be a hassle. The cursor jumps all over the place and you cant see what you are tying when you type it!

As for my sons illnesses, I was not stating that it had anything to do with vaccines. I was just saying that I chose to have him done. I know kids in childcare get sick a lot but, I have seen a BIG difference between my first & second child. My little guy is much healthier so it isn't every child but, probably most! I just wouldnt want to hear it from a dcp that their child picks up every illness but, isnt vaccinated. I personally think the risks are so small & choose to give my kids the shots. It is every parents right to choose to or not to vaccinate. I do think that a parentthat chose not to though would feel different if their child caught chicken pox from another unvaccinated child. Just saying.

I feel that while I enjoy reading this forum very much some posters are very judgemental & quick to correct people. Sometimes it comes off as "i am better than you". The beuty is thst it is ooen to anyone to post & we should welcome different opinions without ridicule. JMHO.

[WDW]

I JUST enrolled a DCB 3yrs, who has not been vaccinated. I am also going to be taking in an infant in may who will be about 5 months. The thought of exposing an infant to any potential diseases really never crossed my mind at that time. I also have a 12 month old of course who received vaccinations.

I was concerned about the no vaccines personally and worried about any possible exposures.

Do you think I would be putting the new infant in may in any possible danger?

I think if the parents of the infant have chosen to immunize, then you should talk with them and let them know you have an older child in care who is not immunized. (Don't name names, or be negative about it).... because they believe in it they will have the option of knowing since their little one won't have all the shots at 5 months old.

[Blackcat31]

I agree with the speeling out of words but, as a smartphone only poster I have to tell you it can be a hassle. The cursor jumps all over the place and you cant see what you are tying when you type it!

As for my sons illnesses, I was not stating that it had anything to do with vaccines. I was just saying that I chose to have him done. I know kids in childcare get sick a lot but, I have seen a BIG difference between my first & second child. My little guy is much healthier so it isn't every child but, probably most! I just wouldnt want to hear it from a dcp that their child picks up every illness but, isnt vaccinated. I personally think the risks are so small & choose to give my kids the shots. It is every parents right to choose to or not to vaccinate. I do think that a parentthat chose not to though would feel different if their child caught chicken pox from another unvaccinated child. Just saying.

I feel that while I enjoy reading this forum very much some posters are very judgemental & quick to correct people. Sometimes it comes off as "i am better than you". The beuty is thst it is ooen to anyone to post & we should welcome different opinions without ridicule. JMHO.

Point taken

I am usually not one to judge, especially unregistered posters. I agree that an open forum with hundreds of differing viewpoints is a wonderfull thing!!

[Unregistered]

In answer to exposure level not having a spleen

Most everyone is correct. An unvaccinated child is more at risk in terms of contracting the diseases they are not vaccinated for and not recovering well. However, they also spread those diseases around at a higher rate for longer. Since their body is not primed to fight the infection, the bacteria replicate in their body for longer before they can fight the infection. So they expose everyone for a longer period of time and to a higher bacterial load. Also remember that not all vaccines are for rare diseases. Bacteria that cause Pneumonia, meningitis, diarrhea diseases and ear infections are part of most states' vaccination schedule.

As for the person without a spleen, you are in some extra danger.
You are susceptible to infections by certain bacteria called "encapsulated organisms". This includes the bacteria that most commonly causes pneumonia (S. pneumo), the bacteria that is the most common cause of ear infections (H. Influenzae B) but was previously a common cause of meningitis, the bacteria that is the most common cause of meningitis, (N. meningitidis), the bacteria that is the most common cause of Urinary tract infections (E. Coli), and Salmonella which still comes around in outbreaks. These bacteria are all floating around all the time and are part of the routine vaccination schedule except e. coli and salmonella. an unvaccinated child can catch and spread all of these infections more easily than vaccinated children.

Also, in my state (FLorida) they immunize against rotavirus. This is a common cause of diarrhea.

Hope this helps make your decision about your own safety.

[LysesKids]

So, I just added an infant (8 months) to my daycare. The parents informed me that they are refusing the shots due to their beliefs so I just told them I needed a doctors note stating that. I don't know much about this... but if a baby doesn't get it's shots that are recommended does that mean they can get sick easily or make me or the other children sick more easily. I myself do not have a spleen (the organ that helps fight off infections) so would it effect me? Sorry if this is a stupid question. But I've been sick this week since she started (probably a coincidence) but still..
Thanks!

Read the regulations for your state about non vaccination in the Health Dept website (for school & daycare); some states have specific paperwork, some require just a written paper based on parent beliefs; DR note is for Medical exemption... totally different than just not wanting to Vax. Damn... old post