Kid Told Me He Is Going To See His New Daycare...

[wdmmom]

So, if the parent is trying to get their child in a program that does not have an opening for 6 weeks, and if they don't secure the space now it will likely be gone....they shouldn't take their child to meet the potential new provider? The parent is DUMB for not talking to the provider FIRST? No way in HELL I would talk to the provider first when she CLEARLY cares about her INCOME before she cares about the FAMILY.

Whatever....I cannot have this discussion with people who CLEARLY only care about the provider side of it....it's the same ol' same ol' here....providers covering their own asses and the parent is always wrong. I am sick of hearing this same old song............

That's great!!! Parents can do what they want. After all, they are the child's caretaker/guardian/parent. They make decisions for them. And, if changing daycare is what the parent wants to do, it's well within their right!
HOWEVER...if there is a 6 week wait to get in, don't you think it would make more sense to notify the current provider YOURSELF and take your child as it gets closer to the enrollment time...not 6 weeks before?!

From a parents prospective: I wouldn't introduce any new provider, place, etc to my child until I met with the people first and made the decision to enroll my child. I also wouldn't have the discussion with my child if there was a wait. I would give my current provider the time required by contract and within that time frame, schedule a time to bring my child by the new facility.

From a providers prospective: I think a child telling the provider anything makes for bad business. Kids talk and whether it's fibs or truth isn't really up for us to decide but when 20% of our income lies with this family, we usually fear the worst and hope for the best. Some of us have the ability to strike up conversation with the parent and ask. Others don't. I don't see where this provider did anything wrong at all and should have never been told the way she was. Especially when the parents were spineless and tried ignoring her questions. Why make the break any more difficult than it usually is?! Be open and honest and enjoy the last little bit of time you have. AND...ask when their last day will be!

In my opinion, the parents approach to this was very tacky, rude and disrespectful towards the provider.

That type of situation would never work here. If I couldn't get a straightforward answer from the parent and the kid is the one that told me. I'll make it easier for all involved and make the break that day!

[Just Saying]

So, you're saying we should unconditionally stand by providers even when they are wrong? You made it clear that the most important piece of this was about the money when you stated you wanted to be underhanded and change your contract on them, and was wondering if it would hold up without their signatures. That's the kind of crap that turns parents off of family child care......completely unprofessional.

And, I can see a whopping $70 WEEKLY increase/ $140 for two kids, being reason to find new care.....that is a SUBSTANTIAL increase and I can't imagine any parent appreciating that.

Crystal, it was not about the money for the OP, She just wanted WHAT WAS OWED TO HER!! And even if she was closed Thanksgiving week, the DCP still would owe her 2 weeks of pay!!

Again hopefully one day a few of your parents would not try this on you!

OP>>>>Just Saying is BACKING YOU 100%.. here is some good vibes for you that you will get a daycare call in 5 days to fill your spot and then BOOT that family out your door!!

HUGS, HUGS, HUGS and more HUGS!!!

[mrsp'slilpeeps]

Let's be blunt about this.

Lets put it this way, and this is how I would feel about it.

DCM went behind the provider's back and found a new daycare for DCB.

Provider is now feeling, what did I do wrong? and she is now second guessing herself as a good DC provider and a good person in general.

DC provider's feelings are HURT.

DCM had no intention of telling DC provider what her plans were.

DC provider is now feeling angry, resentful, hurt, and is wondering WTH do I do now?

DC provider needs to tell this DCM you are done as of this day, you still need to pay me my 2 week fee, if not see you in court.

Good bye DCB, you will be missed and good luck in your new dayhome.

End of story.

Im sorry but I cant stand all of the, Well maybe you should do this, maybe you should do that, blah blah,blah.

[DaycareMomma]

I just need to say this, to the OP, I am so sorry you feel the need to leave here. I feel this is a great place for providers to come and vent and get advice, I have learned a great deal about this place.

That said, I am one of those providers that watches for my own family first. Yes I LOVE each and every one of my daycare kids, with everything I am, but when it comes to paying my bills, providing for my family, yes my family comes first.

If I have a stressful life full of vehicles getting repo'd, a foreclosure on my house, electricity getting turned off..... then I will NOT be the best provider I can be for your child/ren.

I understand that some think the OP should have just went face to face right away with the parents, but I know some of my parents prefer text/emails over face to face.... it's just the way the world works now.

Again, OP I hope you rethink your decision to stay. I'd love to hear how this continues to turn out for you. But if you do decide to go....Best wishes in all you do and thank you for being a great part of society by loving those kids!

[nannyde]

I Must clarify this or it will drive me bonkers.....it is an extra 2.50/per week...not 70.00. I am not that nuts! so 70.25 per kid or 140.50 for the two kid families not a big increase at all. especially for 40-50 hours a week of care.

I knew what you meant.

So what's the tuition at the center?

[DaycareMomma]

Lets put it this way, and this is how I would feel about it.

DCM went behind the provider's back and found a new daycare for DCB.

Provider is now feeling, what did I do wrong? and she is now second guessing herself as a good DC provider and a good person in general.

DC provider's feelings are HURT.

DCM had no intention of telling DC provider what her plans were.

DC provider is now feeling angry, resentful, hurt, and is wondering WTH do I do now?

DC provider needs to tell this DCM you are done as of this day, you still need to pay me my 2 week fee, if not see you in court.

Good bye DCB, you will be missed and good luck in your new dayhome.

End of story.

Im sorry but I cant stand all of the, Well maybe you should do this, maybe you should do that, blah blah,blah.

Amen! Enough said.

[Christian Mother]

Op- I really hope you don't leave us. Your post was a really good one...it makes us all talk about WWYD if that was happening to us. No one is really coming down on you and to be honest I really respect everyone on here even though I might not agree with what everyone says. But I feel comfortable being able to voice my opinion and knowing that by dishing out what I think and feel in return others may do the same. Everyone makes really good points. I appreciate that. Don't not contribute to this forum bc of what's being said. People are just voicing what they think they would of done or what you could do. It's up to you on whether you want to take that advice. I really hope you'll stay though. I really would like to know what your going to do now and follow with you through this. We all do....Hugs!!

[small_steps]

I read it that she raised her rates to $70.50 per child not raised the actual rate $70.50 per child? there is a big difference there...she could have only been charging them $65 per week per child. Am I reading it wrong?

[Country Kids]

I read it that she raised her rates to $70.50 per child not raised the actual rate $70.50 per child? there is a big difference there...she could have only been charging them $65 per week per child. Am I reading it wrong?

No, she is only charging $70.50 a week per child! Can't beat that for a price and sounds like good, quality care. Parents are probably panicked because now the cat is out of the bag and they can't find that low price anywhere else!

[small_steps]

No, she is only charging $70.50 a week per child! Can't beat that for a price and sounds like good, quality care. Parents are probably panicked because now the cat is out of the bag and they can't find that low price anywhere else!

I know. That's a really low price. I wouldn't be complaining if I were those parents. Our area's prices I think are low compared to others (around $100-125 for home daycares), but they're getting a bargain.

[MarinaVanessa]

Well, regardless of whatever else was said on this thread (and alot has been said since the last time I commented ) I still say that the OP should start looking for a replacement now. I think there's even more reason to do so now than there ever was since she is now certain that they are for sure leaving her DC.

She doesn't know when they are leaving and well, times are tough. I know that finding replacements is harder now for some of us than it ever was and the smart thing to do is to start interviewing for a potential client. If she finds a client before her DCF gives notice then she can give them a 2 week notice. If she doesn't then the family is within their rights to give her their 2 weeks notice when they are ready.

One thing that I do agree with Crystal is that the parent DOESN'T have to tell the provider that they are looking for childcare elsewhere. Is is tacky? Sure. Would we appreciate being told ahead of this? Of course. But when it comes right down to it, it isn't a requirement. I'm sure that none of us have a policy that reads "if you decide to look for childcare elsewhere you must notify me as soon as you make that decision or begin looking for new childcare". That being said however, it works both ways. The provider is free to begin a search for a new family to fill the spot as early as she can even if the other family is not ready to go yet, as long as she gives them their two-weeks notice once she has found a replacement.

Would the provider have prefered that the parents spoke to her before they began looking for a new DC? Of course. Would the parents prefer that the provider speak to them before she begins looking for replacement clients? Of course. Are either required? No. The only requirement is that they give the required 2-weeks notice.

[dEHmom]

wow! I missed 2 pages worth of responses since yesterday afternoon!

Anyways, I will try keep this short.

I agree this situation is not the most pleasant, but I still stand firm that the parents haven't done anything wrong. The kid spilled the beans, but kids are kids.

IF you were employed in an office somewhere, and were pursuing other avenues, would you go to your boss and say "i'm looking for another job" and leave it at that? No you'd probably wait until you secured that other job first, and then hand in your 2 weeks notice when the time comes.

It ****s, and it hurts I don't disagree one bit on that. BUT I don't think they set the kid up to tell the provider, and I don't think they've done wrong. I don't think they are disrespecting. HOWEVER once the op let them know she knew, that's where the situation changed and became a matter of respect.

[Just Saying]

wow! I missed 2 pages worth of responses since yesterday afternoon!

Anyways, I will try keep this short.

I agree this situation is not the most pleasant, but I still stand firm that the parents haven't done anything wrong. The kid spilled the beans, but kids are kids.

IF you were employed in an office somewhere, and were pursuing other avenues, would you go to your boss and say "i'm looking for another job" and leave it at that? No you'd probably wait until you secured that other job first, and then hand in your 2 weeks notice when the time comes.

It ****s, and it hurts I don't disagree one bit on that. BUT I don't think they set the kid up to tell the provider, and I don't think they've done wrong. I don't think they are disrespecting. HOWEVER once the op let them know she knew, that's where the situation changed and became a matter of respect.

When I decided to open my daycare, I told my boss that I would be leaving. I told him that I was going to stay till I got my first child. He was happy for me....he said he was sad he was loosing his best worker and he even told me to use some of my vacation days to work on my daycare rooms or he would pay me out for all them. So YES I was HONEST with my boss. And the day I enrolled my first 2 children (Thursday & they started on a Monday) I went in on Friday and said this is my last day and my boss was SO happy for me.

There are still people like myself that have MORALS and I believe in honesty! Smiles!

[countrymom]

everyone has given their opinion on the situation BEFORE the provider approached the parents, BUT now that the provider has asked them the question and they are avoiding her, what do you think she should do now. WHAT SHOULD THE OP DO NOW CONSIDERING THEY ARE AVOIDING THE WHOLE SITUATION.

[Crystal]

Crystal, you owe people on the post an "I AM SORRY". No, I don't. I did not say anything I did not mean.

I am a provider that DOES NOT have to have ANY income, I do daycare because I love little children! BUT, I refuse to EVER let a parent disrespect me! This is what is wrong with our world today! But most providers are not as lucky as me and MUST rely on their income. And a lot of parents KNOW this and will USE their provider and **** any life out of them, and this is SO SAD!!

I can only pray that one day you wake up and find that 4 or 5 of your daycare parents STAB you in the back and you loose income. I believe this would put you and your family in a hardship. The OP may only be loosing 1 child, but that 1 child's income could be food for her family. Nice. You would PRAY for someone to be stabbed in the back by 4 or 5 parents? You must be a Christian. ::

And to your remark about providers covering there own assXX and the parent is always wrong, that was a VERY RUDE comment on your part. If parents read and FOLLOWED providers handbooks and gave the provider RESPECT, then NO provider would ever have to post for advise. It was not a rude comment, it was an honest comment. I see it on this forum every single day. Many providers here, while they do care about their children, talk trash about their families all the time here. I am sick and tired of it. I can say if these providers would spend as much time on their business as they do bashing parents on this forum, they may not have so much drama with their work.

Parents that use home day cares need to WAKE up and realize that providers are the SECOND most important person in their child"s LIFE. I am so lucky to have parents that TRUST & RESPECT me, but if one of my children cam in and told me that they have a new daycare and the parent NEVER had the respect to talk to me, I would be waiting for them at pick up and look them straight in the eyes and tell them what the child told me, then i would tell them i am happy for them and I would have the child's things ready to hand to them.

My reason for ending daycare on the spot.....You disrespected me!! I see no disrespect on the parent's part here....they interviewed a new provider because they were not happy with their current providers rate increase. I say AGAIN, they have not bailed and burned the provider by not paying and providing a two week notice. They are still holding up their end of the bargain....the provider is the one who wanted to change the contract AGAIN to fit her needs in case the parents leave before thanksgiving when she would not be getting paid for that week anyway....THAT is disrepectful. WHY do the parents not deserve any respect and ONLY the provider does????

Would I miss the child....YOU BET!! But I would have more respect for myself and i would not want the child to have to endure any more sadness ONE more day!!

Again Crystal, your posts are kinda rude towards providers, but who knows you may have this to happen to you one day!! Good Luck!! And if this ever does happen to me, instead of trying to turn the table on the parents, I would take a good, long, hard look at my business practices, and adjust them accordingly.

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