Venting Thread

[storybookending]

I was assuming that she was asking about the child coming right back to daycare with fever and active sores. I do still exclude until sores are scabbed over, though, because that is what my pediatrician recommended to me (and most all of my parents use the same doctor, so he tells them this already. He is extra cautious about sick kids at my daycare because my immune-comprimised, fragile twins are his patients, as well. He urges parents to keep them home more than. Any other ped. In town).

Oh no fevers are gone and I already have a policy that fevers need to be under 101 without meds for 24 hours after returning to daycare. I don’t care the reason for the fever to be honest. As for the HFM from the sounds of it the 2 year olds case was/is very mild but I haven’t seen pics or anything. The 10 month old had an awful diaper rash that the parents just assumed was a regular diaper rash bc neither had ever seen a diaper rash and only got concerned when I told them the blister like appearance of it wasn’t a normal diaper rash. He had shots last week Wednesday and has also been trying new foods so there were a number of things to consider. Mom said he has/had two spots on his foot and the diaper area is still pretty bad but fever broke on Sunday.

[Leigh]

Exclusion beyond a fever does NOT prevent or reduce spread for HFM. The following statement is copied/pasted from state health dept. for exclusion rule

“Childcare and School: Until fever is gone and child is well enough to participate in routine activities (sores or rash may still be present). Exclusion will not reduce transmission, as some children may shed the virus without showing symptoms, and other children who become ill may shed the virus for weeks in the stool.”

I was assuming that she was asking about the child coming right back to daycare with fever and active sores. I do still exclude until sores are scabbed over, though, because that is what my pediatrician recommended to me (and most all of my parents use the same doctor, so he tells them this already. He is extra cautious about sick kids at my daycare because my immune-comprimised, fragile twins are his patients, as well. He urges parents to keep them home more than. Any other ped. In town).

[storybookending]

Exclusion beyond a fever does NOT prevent or reduce spread for HFM. The following statement is copied/pasted from state health dept. for exclusion rule

“Childcare and School: Until fever is gone and child is well enough to participate in routine activities (sores or rash may still be present). Exclusion will not reduce transmission, as some children may shed the virus without showing symptoms, and other children who become ill may shed the virus for weeks in the stool.”

This is the kind of stuff I am getting from my research. None of the moms yet have asked about attending tomorrow yet so I haven’t had to give an answer yet. Maybe exclude the 10 month old another day or two if sores in mouth are affecting his feeding like they were yesterday just on the basis that I don’t want a crabby kid. If that’s even why he was not eating, he’s so hard to get a decent look in his mouth.

[Blackcat31]

They probably were all exposed, BUT, more exposures=more likely to contract the illness. Exclusion still helps prevent the spread (I have never had a DCK get it from another DCK).

Exclusion beyond a fever does NOT prevent or reduce spread for HFM. The following statement is copied/pasted from state health dept. for exclusion rule

“Childcare and School: Until fever is gone and child is well enough to participate in routine activities (sores or rash may still be present). Exclusion will not reduce transmission, as some children may shed the virus without showing symptoms, and other children who become ill may shed the virus for weeks in the stool.”

[storybookending]

They probably were all exposed, BUT, more exposures=more likely to contract the illness. Exclusion still helps prevent the spread (I have never had a DCK get it from another DCK).

I'm not so sure that DCM was telling you the truth about having a "negative test" for it. I truly doubt that any doctor would order lab work for HFM for a child who wasn't critically ill (like, a kid who has cancer, and when they must know exactly which bacteria or virus is attacking the child). Especially unlikely when the child's only symptom is fever. Doctors diagnose HFM by exam.

Sorry the “test” wording was my own as I wasn’t sure if it was a test or an exam. She took the child in bc he also has/had a rash but doc said that it isn’t HFM, she took him in after I texted yesterday that another child in care had a confirmed case. It was written as just a viral rash but not HFM. All children that had fevers/rashes are out today. Just not sure when to accept them back as I’ve never dealt with HFM.

[sharlan]

OMG! My two grandsons (A, 11 and B, 10) live to argue. They've spent 20 mins arguing whether A said "summer's ear" or " swimmer's ear".

It ended with B taking off his swimsuit and going inside to pout for 10 minutes.

Now they're back in the pool like nothing happened.

[Ac114]

They probably were all exposed, BUT, more exposures=more likely to contract the illness. Exclusion still helps prevent the spread (I have never had a DCK get it from another DCK).

I'm not so sure that DCM was telling you the truth about having a "negative test" for it. I truly doubt that any doctor would order lab work for HFM for a child who wasn't critically ill (like, a kid who has cancer, and when they must know exactly which bacteria or virus is attacking the child). Especially unlikely when the child's only symptom is fever. Doctors diagnose HFM by exam.

I agree ☝️. When my son had HFM 2 years ago the pediatrician said there wasn’t a test to be done, just an exam. He was excluded from daycare for the week until fever and sores were healed.

[Leigh]

Welp HFM has hit my daycare for the first time. I have one sib set and only the boy has it but mom is also keeping sister home as a precaution, she ran a fever this weekend. Actually I sent them both home with fevers on Friday afternoon. They were both together all weekend with my niece at a family function so chances are at least one of the girls will come down with it. Informed all parents about the diagnosis and one of my younger ones has it as well. Another (the mom I vented about earlier) had her son tested as well as he ran a fever Sunday and today but said the test was negative.

As far as exclusion I am not sure. I’ve read all the threads here with a HFM tag and it seems to be split with what providers do. Basically the jist of what I’m getting is it’s contagious before symptoms and esp while running the fever and up u til after spots have started to scab over. So basically they were all probably exposed anyways.

They probably were all exposed, BUT, more exposures=more likely to contract the illness. Exclusion still helps prevent the spread (I have never had a DCK get it from another DCK).

I'm not so sure that DCM was telling you the truth about having a "negative test" for it. I truly doubt that any doctor would order lab work for HFM for a child who wasn't critically ill (like, a kid who has cancer, and when they must know exactly which bacteria or virus is attacking the child). Especially unlikely when the child's only symptom is fever. Doctors diagnose HFM by exam.

[storybookending]

First time having push back on any of my policies but I stood my ground. No I will not just keep your child with a fever medicated all day long to keep it down.. that is NOT how this works. I had requests from both of my newer moms and NOPE NOPE NOPE. At least one is pissed, sorry sweetie that’s a part of being a parent. (Which I feel awful saying because I’m not actually a parent but come on now)

Welp HFM has hit my daycare for the first time. I have one sib set and only the boy has it but mom is also keeping sister home as a precaution, she ran a fever this weekend. Actually I sent them both home with fevers on Friday afternoon. They were both together all weekend with my niece at a family function so chances are at least one of the girls will come down with it. Informed all parents about the diagnosis and one of my younger ones has it as well. Another (the mom I vented about earlier) had her son tested as well as he ran a fever Sunday and today but said the test was negative.

As far as exclusion I am not sure. I’ve read all the threads here with a HFM tag and it seems to be split with what providers do. Basically the jist of what I’m getting is it’s contagious before symptoms and esp while running the fever and up u til after spots have started to scab over. So basically they were all probably exposed anyways.

[storybookending]

Same here. I do not take kids that are medicated. If they come down with a fever at lunch they will need to find another daycare if they are doping and dropping.

I have meds on site for each child but it’s more in a “if you child suddenly becomes ill I will administer while you close up shop at work to keep them comfortable while you get here” sort of thing. My two new moms, both I would say probably 24ish and ftms are Tylenol crazy! “Oh I gave Billy meds this morning bc he seemed off but doesn’t have a fever or any symptoms”. Just no.

The one that I didn’t allow to come today isn’t going to be here too much longer anyways as both parents work (or soon will) in another town and are looking to move there. I did not get this information from either parent but rather through the grapevine, small town life. I feel bad but I’m less likely to care when I know they won’t be sticking around.

[Rizzle54]

I got fired cause of stupid parents

A parent complained about me a few weeks ago saying I was screaming at the kids ... I wasn’t I was trying to get them to all sit down and iwas using my a loud teacher voice cause if I didn’t they would all be running around like crazy .. anyways the lady made a comment about me saying I’m lucky I don’t treat her child they way I do with the other kids.. the director and owner of my school knew about this but they let it go cause they believed me...so then yesterday there was a moment I was struggling with the other children to get them on the other playground and I had one kid in my hands and the other kid by the arm and the kid i had by the arm dropped himself on the ground so I was kinda dragging him .. so I fixed it I let the kid in my arms go and picked the other kid up right way .. but the same lady from last week somehow saw this and said I was “hurting” the children and grabbing three kids by the arm at the same time dragging them on the ground ... that didn’t happen... so the lady threatened me saying if the school doesn’t do anything she will... (note: this lady works across the street ) so to wrap this all up the owner of the school looked at the cameras and said she saw me at stress and that it would be better if I work somewhere else.. oh then two other parents complained about me as well cause they had bite marks on them and they were in my care when it happened ... which was not true...it was just complaint after complaint about me .. it’s kinda unfair. Recovering from this is actually putting me in depression cause I had to say goodbye to all my coworkers that I loved and all the kids I got attached to... idk how to recover from this at all it was my first job as a teacher assistant I was there for 1 year..my heart is so broken 💔💔💔💔 I have been looking for new jobs but every night I have been crying myself to sleep...

[amberrose3dg]

If it's painful, it's most likely a cyst. Try not to worry(I know, easy for me to say)and good luck!!!

I am trying to. I had cancer before so I am trying to stay hopeful. The pain is in my arm and down where my bra is too. I think my doctor is stumped as what it is.

[amberrose3dg]

I don’t care if he is “fine now” if a child needs meds to be here they don’t need to be here. I’m mostly just pissed I’m awake now ::

Same here. I do not take kids that are medicated. If they come down with a fever at lunch they will need to find another daycare if they are doping and dropping.

[storybookending]

I had an interview when the mom was stunned I had such a "ridiculously strict" sick policy. My guess is that she & your DCMs would be hacked the first time their child came down with something they could blame on daycare.

I don’t care if he is “fine now” if a child needs meds to be here they don’t need to be here. I’m mostly just pissed I’m awake now ::

[DaveA]

First time having push back on any of my policies but I stood my ground. No I will not just keep your child with a fever medicated all day long to keep it down.. that is NOT how this works. I had requests from both of my newer moms and NOPE NOPE NOPE. At least one is pissed, sorry sweetie that’s a part of being a parent. (Which I feel awful saying because I’m not actually a parent but come on now)

I had an interview when the mom was stunned I had such a "ridiculously strict" sick policy. My guess is that she & your DCMs would be hacked the first time their child came down with something they could blame on daycare.