DCG May Have Broke My Sons Nose..Now What?

[dEHmom]

Shall I close this thread?

I'm not sure since you quoted me Michael if I've done anything wrong in that post, or was being rude.

I just understand that even myself, took Legomom's original post and spun it out of control.

I think most of us were pointing out a fact that there is a possibility in this situation that someone can misinterpret what they see/hear, and it would be devistating for all involved.

[Michael]

No, nothing about you. Just asking.

[dEHmom]

Not my thread to say so, but I feel maybe it's a good thing to leave open.

Reminds people that stuff like this can happen. Even though it is not related to the original post, it started a topic, which just proves how things can be misinterpreted.

[Lucy]

He was laying on his bed because she was climbing on him, and he was pretending to be a horse.

Of course, because horses are always on their backs facing you when you ride them. ::

[Crystal]

I agree except I think the same scenario of false accusations happens with males and no mention of a bed is even involved. FALSE accusations is why I never wanted my husband around dck and what worries me more about males in general than actually doing it.

If it were a girl playing in her room w the dcg this wouldn't be a topic. I've seen ppl mention dck playing in their own children's room. It's pretty hypocritical in light of the men in daycare discussion.

FTR...my kids NEVER have had DCK in their rooms. Or in my room.

Now, QCare, I understand how you feel about men in child care.....you have made that perfectly clear in the dad's in daycare threads. However, my husband does work with me. My point with Legomom is to MINIMIZE your risk. So, my husband works with me....he would NEVER have a child alone in a bedroom, or on a bed, or giving them horsie rides.

Sure, there is the possibility that there may be a false accusation against my husband, just as there is the possibility that I could be falsely accused of mistreating a child, but we do everything we can to make sure that does not happen. Including always having at least two of here at all times, neither of us are ever alone with the children, we document EVERYTHING that could even possibly be misconstrued as abuse and NEVER, EVER, EVER would you find one of us on a bed with a DCK. No matter where that bed may be.

Allowing a 15 year old to be on a bed with a 2.5 year old DCG is asking for trouble. For the OP to be defensive about it and argumentative about it is ridiculous. I am the OP who brought the issue up about her son/dcg. I did it to remind her that these things can be misconstrued and as a warning that she may not want to allow it. I didn't say it to start a flaming war, I am genuinely concerned about the liability she could face if it were misunderstood. And, quite possibly a parent being told they are going to be held liable for their 2.5 year old daughter hurting a 15 year old may be all they need to make that accusation....people ARE retaliatory and vindictive, ya know?

[kendallina]

Sorry your son got hurt Legomom, I can understand your feelings as a momma who feels bad that your son was injured. I do agree with those that said you would be liable to pay for any medical costs that arise from this. I hope he feels better soon...

I do also have to say that I've been in daycares that have a mattress on the floor of the playroom. It can be a fun way for children to play and bounce and be silly. I don't really see anything wrong with that. I can understand how some might misconstrue that, but, once you cleared up the circumstances I don't really see anything wrong with them being silly on a mattress in a communal area, especially given your relationship with the family (i.e. that they're so familiar they are comfortable walking right in your son's room and plopping their daughter on him...). It sounds like you have a wonderful relationship/friendship with this family and I personally wouldn't want to damage it by even asking for financial compensation.

[nikia]

First off I am sorry your son is hurt and I hope that is not broken. As a mamma bear myself I can understand your anger. I personally wouldnt ask for any compensation just because I would feel since it happened at my house and I let them rough house I would be responsible and accidents do happen. But I understand completely the angry mamma bear feeling

As far as the other issues in this thread, I think that they are good points to make but it wasnt the original question and I think leggomom may feel personally attacked, as I was in my Santa clause thread, and it is not a good feeling when you come for support.

[DBug]

DS babysits her sometimes, and since DCM comes soo early in the am, she will take DCG up to my DS's bedroom and plops her on top of him to wake him up!

Okay, I was telling my husband about this situation, and the thing that bothered him was this part (not the rest of it, just this!). He pointed out, as only a man can do, that waking up first thing in the morning can be, um, ... embarrassing ... for men, and especially teenaged boys (if you catch his drift ...).

Since it's not something that most of us women think about, you may want to consider it before allowing other women and little girls into his room first thing in the morning. I'm sure the other mom would probably not want to have to explain THAT situation to her toddler!

Now that he's pointed it out (pardon the expression!), I think I'll be more cautious when entering my sons' room in the am!

[legomom922]

I do also have to say that I've been in daycares that have a mattress on the floor of the playroom. It can be a fun way for children to play and bounce and be silly. I don't really see anything wrong with that. I can understand how some might misconstrue that, but, once you cleared up the circumstances I don't really see anything wrong with them being silly on a mattress in a communal area, especially given your relationship with the family (i.e. that they're so familiar they are comfortable walking right in your son's room and plopping their daughter on him...). It sounds like you have a wonderful relationship/friendship with this family and I personally wouldn't want to damage it by even asking for financial compensation.

Thank you for understanding. I would never damage this relationship over money, it was just "knowledge" I was seeking because of the uncertainity at that moment. My Dad had a friend whose kid got hurt and the bone got shoved up into his brain, it was fatal..So tend to look at all senerios & seek educational info just in case.

Furthermore I do not run this huge daycare center somewhere where i have kids running all over the place. I have this 1 girl, who has grown up with my family, and do not plan on having anymore since my DH told me I don't need to do this anymore anyway. In between the time when DCG was here FT and when she was drop in only, I did it for free because of the relationship I have with this family, and when she needed me again on a reg PT schedule, thats when I started charging her again. Some of you have taken this wonderful relationship and twisted it to make it look dark.

Accuasations can happen to anyone anywhere, and you dont even have to be a DCP for it to happen. A neighbor, a friend, a kid at school, church etc, so unless everyone is willing to lock themselves up in their house and never go out and never have any contact with people/kids in the outside world, anyone is at risk. A baby can die on a DCP's watch and be accused, but it doesnt stop any of us from being DCP's does it? Your own child could be molested at church, do you not go because of "what if" Or how about a teacher? Do you not send your kids to school because "what if"? I am not going to live in the "what if" world, and if I do, I would be better off dead.......

Again, thank you to those who truly understood the senerio, and didnt twist the facts. I appreciate that !

Michael, you can close the thread now, no sense in beating a dead horse...

[QualiTcare]

FTR...my kids NEVER have had DCK in their rooms. Or in my room.

Now, QCare, I understand how you feel about men in child care.....you have made that perfectly clear in the dad's in daycare threads. However, my husband does work with me. My point with Legomom is to MINIMIZE your risk. So, my husband works with me....he would NEVER have a child alone in a bedroom, or on a bed, or giving them horsie rides.

Sure, there is the possibility that there may be a false accusation against my husband, just as there is the possibility that I could be falsely accused of mistreating a child, but we do everything we can to make sure that does not happen. Including always having at least two of here at all times, neither of us are ever alone with the children, we document EVERYTHING that could even possibly be misconstrued as abuse and NEVER, EVER, EVER would you find one of us on a bed with a DCK. No matter where that bed may be.

Allowing a 15 year old to be on a bed with a 2.5 year old DCG is asking for trouble. For the OP to be defensive about it and argumentative about it is ridiculous. I am the OP who brought the issue up about her son/dcg. I did it to remind her that these things can be misconstrued and as a warning that she may not want to allow it. I didn't say it to start a flaming war, I am genuinely concerned about the liability she could face if it were misunderstood. And, quite possibly a parent being told they are going to be held liable for their 2.5 year old daughter hurting a 15 year old may be all they need to make that accusation....people ARE retaliatory and vindictive, ya know?

How would you know how I feel from that thread? I never told you ;0)

Actually, it's not something I'd want my husband doing bc there is a higher risk of accusations IMO. When that many girls are being abused and an equal amount of women are in denial about what the males in their lives are capable of and how desperate people are for someone to point the finger at when something does happen. Do you watch TV? I just laugh my ass off at the amount of seemingly normal women who are married to OBVIOUS gay men. Denial, big time.

We're different in that you decrease the risk you think by not letting your husband lay in the bed with kids. I would rather eliminate the risk by not having him hang around young kids. That doesn't mean I don't think men should do dc. I'm all about rights. I just don't want my men (including my son) doing it. I can't see myself being attracted to a man who would be up for that type of work really and I'd be very worried if my teenage son would mess with a little girl at all.

[Unregistered]

Sorry but we've already dealt with the misinformation going on here.
Nothing about what you said was the actual scenario

Did you read the first post sweetie they where in HIS room on HIS bed stated by first poster I was stating how I would feel if this was MY GIRL in a BED with a TEEN boy and playing with a CERMANIC piggy bank and PLAY FIGHTING all that was said SO may wanna read a little closer next time MAYBE they where NOT unattended I did just assume that part and I apolozie to first poster for ASSUMING that.

[jen]

I can't see myself being attracted to a man who would be up for that type of work really ...

Oh my gosh, that is really sad.

[dEHmom]

Did you read the first post sweetie they where in HIS room on HIS bed stated by first poster I was stating how I would feel if this was MY GIRL in a BED with a TEEN boy and playing with a CERMANIC piggy bank and PLAY FIGHTING all that was said SO may wanna read a little closer next time MAYBE they where NOT unattended I did just assume that part and I apolozie to first poster for ASSUMING that.

Yeah I read it, but there has been 2 pages of discussion regarding what was said in the first post.
I didn't mean to be rude, but I feel bad for legomom because she didn't think what she was saying was going to spin off this way.

I understand that often we come on here for support, or to ask a question about something, and without thinking about what we are saying, it comes across the wrong way and everyone ends up ganging up on you.

All I meant in that post unregistered user (I'm assuming you've logged out so you are not recognized) was that you were late coming into the conversation, within the last 20 or so posts prior to yours things had been cleared up, and everyone was getting the point. Obviously if you come into a thread late, it isn't expected you can read every single post, but in a heated discussion such as this, it is a good idea to at least read in between and the last of the posts before you say what you want to say.

[missnikki]

So Legomom, how is your boy doing?

[legomom922]

Yeah I read it, but there has been 2 pages of discussion regarding what was said in the first post.
I didn't mean to be rude, but I feel bad for legomom because she didn't think what she was saying was going to spin off this way.

I understand that often we come on here for support, or to ask a question about something, and without thinking about what we are saying, it comes across the wrong way and everyone ends up ganging up on you.

All I meant in that post unregistered user (I'm assuming you've logged out so you are not recognized) was that you were late coming into the conversation, within the last 20 or so posts prior to yours things had been cleared up, and everyone was getting the point. Obviously if you come into a thread late, it isn't expected you can read every single post, but in a heated discussion such as this, it is a good idea to at least read in between and the last of the posts before you say what you want to say.

Thanks Baybee! Obviously some people doesn't know how to READ::::::