DCG May Have Broke My Sons Nose..Now What?

[nannyde]

that's a little risky too. not now maybe - but IF something happened in her home and she's the daycare provider. big risk, actually.

Yeah you are right... just getting that in there because the next thing we know he will have BEEN the babysitter in this story.

[DCMomOf3]

Legomom - I can tell you are frustrated and are on the defensive right now. I hope you can see where the confusion happened. You say DSs bed, with no explanation of location or specifics. Also, you could have gotten an explanation from your son, I don't believe you stated you SAW.

I am very sorry that your son was hurt but I think there is nothing you can do about it except tell your son not to lay down on any surface where the daycare kids are.

[jen]

See what I mean? Let me point out all of your errors:
1. She wasn't carrying the pig.....
2. DS is not 17
3. She wasn't climbing on the bed
4. She wasn't alone
5. She wasn't left unsupervisied
6. She wasn't in a bedroom
7. He wasn't in non-visable area
8. I was not missing

Furthermore, how do you expect him to babysit her and not be alone with her in their home???

Seriusly, what amazes me is again how people assume & add their own details!

Now I am confused...

If she wasn't carrying the Pig, how did she drop the pig?

No, not 17, almost 16, sort of mute point, we stand corrected.

No, she wasn't climbing on the bed, she was climbing on your son, who was on his bed. Do you not see how we would make the assumption that "his bed" was in his bedroom?

If you were in the room and allowed her to pick up the pig, then why would you think that her parents should pay for your sons medical bills? They weren't in the room.

Yes he has babysat for her in the past, but he was not babysitting for her today. YOU were, isn't that right?

Maybe I am not getting it!

[Blackcat31]

legomom...I have heard that when you have a broken nose you should take a decongestant to prevent any phlem buildup that could cause an infection. As a precautionary action I would consider doing so to prevent any further problems for your son.

[Unregistered]

Liability

OP, I hope that all is going well for your son. Broken noses are painful!

As far as any expenses that could come up are concerned, I think that you are going to be responsible for them.

[legomom922]

Oh excuse me. 15. Same difference. I got the laying on his bed from your post where you said "He was laying on his bed".

How are you saying she's not carrying the pig when she had it and dropped it? Are you saying she was HOLDING the pig?

okay then... why in the world would you allow a 2.5 year old to HOLD a ceramic pig that had money in it? She could have dropped that on her feet?

When he BABYSITS her it's on their clock and their arrangement. She's not a day care kid when HE is caring for her in their home or even in YOUR home when they hire HIM to care for her.

You are changing the story and building a new story around your original one. The first thing you posted is the truth.

Oh my goodness...

He was laying on his bed because she was climbing on him, and he was pretending to be a horse.

They had been putting money in her pig..There is not alot of money in it..She has only been here 4x since Christmas..It's not really super heavy with a ton of money in it..Maybe it has a total of .80 in mixed coins..Most of the weight is from the ceramic itself..When they were done playing on the bed, she only picked up the pig, not carried the pig, not holding the pig.

No change in the story, just adding alot more details that I didnt even think was necessary since all of this other stuff is not even related to my question in the first place! I could have written a novel to let you know every single detail no matter how small, but I didnt want to write a book. I wanted to make it short & simple so I wouldnt bore you to death!

This thread was not to start a debate in the first place, it was just for info, and some have made a montain out of a mole hill which is uncalled for...

[legomom922]

Originally your post was to vent about the accident, and to ask if you were entitled to any liability on the parents part. Which I think you've received your answer multiple times by now.

Glad to hear he is doing a little better. Did you find out if it was a clean break? I was lucky when I broke my nose on the monkey bars at school that it was a straight bar straight across teh bridge, I didn't have to have any alignments done! whew.

I was venting in my original post because being the Mamma bear, I was sad that my baby was hurt, even though it was on accident, and I only was asking a question on liability because if it was a DCK who got hurt by our kids, we all know what would happen, but considering this was the opposite, I didnt know the answer.

I dont know why some have to go off in other directions. I didnt ask what was right or appropriate..that wasn't the question and therefore needed no answers or opinions. Next time, I will leave out all details, or write a book instead...

i'm glad you didnt need to have any alignments done! I dont think it is broken today. It is blk/blue across the bridge though, and the swelling has gone down, so I think he will be ok now.

Thanks to all who helped me/understood me!

Off to pick up my car now.

[dEHmom]

If it's a clean break, you wouldn't really know it was broken. If I get really cold or sick, and go pale in the face, you can still see the break (15 yrs later) in my nose it's just a darker line that looks like a crack in the bone. If I wear sunglasses, I find my nose goes a little tingly/numb, but after a few days the swelling was gone, and the bruising lasted about a week around my eyes and nose (look like I got punched in both eyes). Once in a while I get nosebleeds and was told it's from that, but it's probably just from the dry air, etc.

[Crystal]

Legomom, I did not make my first post to be flammatory. I sincerely feel that any daycare child playing on a bed with a 15 year old dcs COULD end up being a liability. No matter the relationship you have with the family, all it takes is one false, innocently misunderstood "touch" and for dcg to report that to her parents. Your relationship, professional or not, would be over and there would likely be criminal charges pressed against your son. It doesn't have to be true for it to be believed and reported.

No matter how much they trust you and your son, it COULD happen. It has happened with trusted family members in some cases, why would you think it could not happen with you, your son and your child care/personal relationships?

I am very sorry your son got hurt. I understand that it is difficult to see your own child in pain. But, this happened by a small child, clearly unintenionally, I think I would just let it go if I were you.

[Unregistered]

First, I agree with pp that this should not be a parent liability. Clearly it was an accident, and your son IS 15, it's not like she walked up and knocked the daylights out of another two year old.

On another note, and I know some will probably not like what I am about to say, but I'm going to say it anyway becasue I feel it is important.

Your son, at 15, should not be wrestling around with a two year old on his bed. I am NOT saying he would ever do anything, BUT it could be percieved by a parent who walks in and sees it as something other than what it is. Frankly, she shouldn't even be in his bedroom. I'd be very careful about allowing this.

I completely agree with what crystal said I have a 3 year old and if she went to daycare and was in the providers sons bedroom who is a teen jumping on the bed, play fighting with him, playing with a CERMANIC piggy bank, and UNATTENDED I would be PISSED sorry but from a parents view of a little girl its unacceptable for a boy who is not the brother to be play fighting with a little girl in his room and its unacceptable for a 2 year old to be playing with something dangerous and unattended.

[dEHmom]

I completely agree with what crystal said I have a 3 year old and if she went to daycare and was in the providers sons bedroom who is a teen jumping on the bed, play fighting with him, playing with a CERMANIC piggy bank, and UNATTENDED I would be PISSED sorry but from a parents view of a little girl its unacceptable for a boy who is not the brother to be play fighting with a little girl in his room and its unacceptable for a 2 year old to be playing with something dangerous and unattended.

Sorry but we've already dealt with the misinformation going on here.
Nothing about what you said was the actual scenario

[Live and Learn]

Lego mom,
My own teen son recently had his nose broken in a soccer game. Not only was his nose purple but both eyes! I hope your guy mends as fast as mine did.

it was an accident.....

This is more "family" than anything else.

If my two year old niece accidentally hurt my teen son in a similar way I definitely would not expect her parents to pay!!:: Good Luck

[QualiTcare]

Legomom, I did not make my first post to be flammatory. I sincerely feel that any daycare child playing on a bed with a 15 year old dcs COULD end up being a liability. No matter the relationship you have with the family, all it takes is one false, innocently misunderstood "touch" and for dcg to report that to her parents. Your relationship, professional or not, would be over and there would likely be criminal charges pressed against your son. It doesn't have to be true for it to be believed and reported.

No matter how much they trust you and your son, it COULD happen. It has happened with trusted family members in some cases, why would you think it could not happen with you, your son and your child care/personal relationships?

I am very sorry your son got hurt. I understand that it is difficult to see your own child in pain. But, this happened by a small child, clearly unintenionally, I think I would just let it go if I were you.

I agree except I think the same scenario of false accusations happens with males and no mention of a bed is even involved. FALSE accusations is why I never wanted my husband around dck and what worries me more about males in general than actually doing it.

If it were a girl playing in her room w the dcg this wouldn't be a topic. I've seen ppl mention dck playing in their own children's room. It's pretty hypocritical in light of the men in daycare discussion.

[Michael]

Sorry but we've already dealt with the misinformation going on here.
Nothing about what you said was the actual scenario

Shall I close this thread?

[Blackcat31]

I vote yes, as long as legomom is okay with it and her son is doing well, I think too many other things have been brought into the thread that wasn't the intent of the op's....we can always start separate threads for those issues if we feel the need.