Kicking Child Out of Daycare

[MsMe]

when your child comes home messy
red paint in the hair? Blue paint on the jeans?
Sand in the shoes? Peanut butter on a favorite shirt?
White socks that look brown? Sleeves a bit damp?

Your child probably....

Worked with a friend
solved a problem
created a masterpiece
negotiated a difference
learned a new skill
had a great time
developed new language skills

your child probably didn't....

Feel lonely
become bored
do a repetitive task that is babyish
do worksheets that are too easy
do sit down work that is discouraging


you probably....

Paid good money for those clothes
will have trouble getting the red paint out
are concerned the caregiver isn't paying enough attention to your child


your caregiver probably....

Was aware of your child's special needs and interests
spent time planning a challenging activity for the children
encouraged the children to try new things
was worried you might be concerned


young children really learn when they are actively involved in play...not when someone is talking to them. There is a difference between "messy" and "lack of care." your caregiver made sure your child was fed, warm, offered new skills and planned messy fun things to do because that's how your children learn!

Send your child in clothes that can get dirty! Keep extra clothes at the site for the times when the child gets really messy. But remember, your children need time to be kids.


~~~author unknown~~~

i love this

[dEHmom]

And for daycares that call other daycares in the area, that is low and unethical.

how so?

If you don't make your credit card payment, ALL other financial institutions will be fully aware of this when they pull a bureau....


If you don't make your car payments... you will be up for repo, and it'll be on your bureau...

If you don't make your mortgage payments, same thing!

Why shouldn't us child care providers have some sort of information for the parents that are paying us to watch their child???

Why shouldn't we have some protection for our home, income, AND business???

Are we supposed to just accept every rotten parent that walks in the door?

I am not saying you are a rotten parent, and by the sounds of it, you have done nothing wrong, and took the proper steps. But there are many parents out there who refuse to pay a provider, and then when they lose their spot or are terminated, they turn around and try get revenge by shutting the provider down. How is that fair?

Good for you for doing what you needed to do to protect your child. And if they were willing to terminate you for that, then I would look at it as you are out of a very unsafe situation, and one door is shut, another will open. At least this happened BEFORE a serious injury or fatal injury occurred.




eta: FIDDLESTICKS! i have to learn to see the original dates! .

[dEHmom]

Hello everyone, I am a concern parent. I don't know if any of you ever have this problem with your child's daycare or have any advice for me. I am concern about my child coming home everyday with sand in her head. she is two years old. Everday she comes she has sand on her face and in her head. I call the daycare, they said they have sand boxes and the children love to play in them. I told them I do not want my child to play in the sand, because it can get into her eyes. they said there's nothing they can do about it because its a requirement. what must I do? If I take her out of the daycare, I would have to continue paying the daycare until they find someone to replace my child. That what they said, but I dont remember reading anything like that.

umm....you might want to look into one of those big bubbles. I would be more concerned if my kid came home sparkling clean, and perfectly groomed as she was when I dropped her off. Would make me question what she did all day.

[Unregistered]

calling other providers

It is low, unethical and depending on what you say, illegal.

Violations of child and family privacy.

Slander.

Unprofessional.

[Unregistered]

Really? Your Really crying that your kid has sand in her hair? I agree...get a bubble for your child!

[Unregistered]

I realize that this is an old post, but I'm coming across things like this while I surf the internet looking for HOW I file a complaint about my children's daycare. For starters, my children will NEVER go back to the daycare that they have attended for the last several years. I've put up with a lot...from ridiculously rude staff, catching staff members discussing me and my childcare assistance status with people who have no reason to know, head lice because the daycare won't send children home that have it, physically agressive children(to the point of bruising and bloodying my children)...it's just been an insane ride. I guess the only reason that I tolerate it is because the kids' grandma works in the daycare and I trust that she watches over them throughout the day for me.

Anyway, I found out yesterday that there was a young woman working in the daycare who was hired on permanently after she finished her time working there ON COMMUNITY SERVICE. Since when do daycares allow people who are on community service to have access to our children? Well, I found out yesterday that this young woman brought a bag of marijuana into the daycare and showed it to several members of the staff. Nobody called the police. I was horrified and disgusted. Apparently, the director even knew about this...yet did nothing...because the young lady's mother is on the daycare board. Needless to say, my children WILL NOT be going back to this daycare!

[Michael]

Who to Call about a Child Care Complaint in Iowa?

I realize that this is an old post, but I'm coming across things like this while I surf the internet looking for HOW I file a complaint about my children's daycare. For starters, my children will NEVER go back to the daycare that they have attended for the last several years. I've put up with a lot...from ridiculously rude staff, catching staff members discussing me and my childcare assistance status with people who have no reason to know, head lice because the daycare won't send children home that have it, physically agressive children(to the point of bruising and bloodying my children)...it's just been an insane ride. I guess the only reason that I tolerate it is because the kids' grandma works in the daycare and I trust that she watches over them throughout the day for me.

Anyway, I found out yesterday that there was a young woman working in the daycare who was hired on permanently after she finished her time working there ON COMMUNITY SERVICE. Since when do daycares allow people who are on community service to have access to our children? Well, I found out yesterday that this young woman brought a bag of marijuana into the daycare and showed it to several members of the staff. Nobody called the police. I was horrified and disgusted. Apparently, the director even knew about this...yet did nothing...because the young lady's mother is on the daycare board. Needless to say, my children WILL NOT be going back to this daycare!

What state do you live in? Your IP reads Iowa.

Child Care Homes
These are homes that are not registered and by law can care for five or fewer children at the non-registered location. Iowa does not regulate these homes. If these homes care for five or more children at one time, they are required to be registered. A child is defined as being in child care and counted if one of the following describes that child's situation.


Infants and preschool children of the provider when their care and supervision is being provided at the child care location.

• Infants and preschool children that are not the provider's children.
• School age children that are not the provider's children, and are not considered to have a developmental disability as defined under federal law, are counted through age twelve.

• School age children with a developmental disability, that are not the provider's children, are counted through age eighteen.
• The school age children of the provider are counted in the total number of children when they regularly stay home for home-schooling. NOTE: The provider's school-age children are not counted during school breaks and days off of school when the provider's children regularly attend school.

If parents or the public have good reason to believe a non-registered child care home has more than five children in care at any one time, please report the problem to the local DHS office. The contact information for each local DHS office is available by clicking on this link, http://www.dhs.iowa.gov/Consumers/Find_Help/MapLocations.html.


Registered Child Development Homes
Parents choosing registered child development homes for child care and early education or school-aged child care should receive the "Parent Guide to Child Development Home Registration”, Form SS-0702-3. This guide provides a summary of the requirements for registration as a child development home. This guide and the “Child Development Home Registration Guidelines”, Comm. 143 can be found by clicking on this link, http://www.dhs.iowa.gov/policyanalysis/PolicyManualPages/Manual_Documents/Master/comm143.pdf.

If parents or the public have good reason to believe a child development home does not meet these requirements, please report the problem to the local DHS office. The contact information for each local DHS office is available at the following link, http://www.dhs.iowa.gov/Consumers/Find_Help/MapLocations.html.



Licensed Child Care Centers and Preschools
Parents choosing child care centers and preschools for child care and early education or school-aged child care should have access to “Child Care Centers and Preschool Licensing Standard and Procedures”, Comm. 204. at the child care center or preschool. This handbook contains the requirements for licensing and can also be found by clicking on this link, http://www.dhs.state.ia.us/policyanalysis/PolicyManualPages/Manual_Documents/Master/comm204.pdf.

If parents or the public have good reason to believe a center does not meet these requirements, please report the problem to child care consultant assigned to that center. Their name, mailing address, and telephone number is required to be posted in the center. The contact information for each child care consultant in Iowa, their contact information and the contact information for their supervisor and support staff is available at the following link, http://www.dhs.iowa.gov/docs/Daycare%20map.pdf.

[Unregistered]

i know this is old, but in the discussion that it is unethical to tell other providers about past clients, I didnt see where it is wrong or not wrong to tell fellow parents that a provider is bad. To me its the same, especially when its all heresay.

[mismatchedsocks]

http://www.providerwatch.com/v2/

I have a little thing written in my contract that says I use this. I have two parents who I have on this list for non payment of last 2 weeks of care. There is a free trial you can try for 60 days, then its $10 a month. If I was a center I would get this, but for now I just report them, in hopes I help someone one day. I know this is about payment, but I wish there was something like this for parents who turn in bogus reports for being let go, or them terminating for something they dont like.

I had a family whom i helped by bringing their child to preschool each day. She would whine and cry about not wanting to go to school because the kids made fun of her clothes and shoes. I told this to the parent and teacher, and just moved on. Well the child was going to start kindergarten so I figured i woudlnt have her anyway, but about a month after she was pulled ( with 2 week paid and a raving letter about how great it is here, etc) I had a visit from the state. Mom told them I told her daughter she couldnt wear her shoes that she loved and her shirt was ugly????? really!!???!

[Meeko]

http://www.providerwatch.com/v2/

I have a little thing written in my contract that says I use this. I have two parents who I have on this list for non payment of last 2 weeks of care. There is a free trial you can try for 60 days, then its $10 a month. If I was a center I would get this, but for now I just report them, in hopes I help someone one day. I know this is about payment, but I wish there was something like this for parents who turn in bogus reports for being let go, or them terminating for something they dont like.

I had a family whom i helped by bringing their child to preschool each day. She would whine and cry about not wanting to go to school because the kids made fun of her clothes and shoes. I told this to the parent and teacher, and just moved on. Well the child was going to start kindergarten so I figured i woudlnt have her anyway, but about a month after she was pulled ( with 2 week paid and a raving letter about how great it is here, etc) I had a visit from the state. Mom told them I told her daughter she couldnt wear her shoes that she loved and her shirt was ugly????? really!!???!

I use provider watch too and have it in my contract.

[Unregistered]

very concerned

My child goes part time to daycare on the suffice i guess the daycare looks good clean but there is some concerns that i have. For one last time i picked her up she did not get bottle (milk) for 7 hrs and baby food only one time in almost 10 hr day that she stayed there. is that something that should be reported ? im in process of finding another daycare because i just refuse to take my baby where she is starved to death and crying when i pick her up i just dont feel thats right. I have not talked to the site director because every time i ask her anything about my child's day she has no clue what is going on and by the time i pick her up the teacher is already gone. i only hope that all daycare's are not the same and some daycare providers actually have some pride in their work, dont get me wrong taking care of kids is not easy and dealing with parents at times is challenging at the least but is it really that much to ask for my child to be fed with food that i provide at approximate times that she normally eats and drinks and to be played with??

[Cat Herder]

My child goes part time to daycare on the suffice i guess the daycare looks good clean but there is some concerns that i have. For one last time i picked her up she did not get bottle (milk) for 7 hrs and baby food only one time in almost 10 hr day that she stayed there. is that something that should be reported ? im in process of finding another daycare because i just refuse to take my baby where she is starved to death and crying when i pick her up i just dont feel thats right. I have not talked to the site director because every time i ask her anything about my child's day she has no clue what is going on and by the time i pick her up the teacher is already gone. i only hope that all daycare's are not the same and some daycare providers actually have some pride in their work, dont get me wrong taking care of kids is not easy and dealing with parents at times is challenging at the least but is it really that much to ask for my child to be fed with food that i provide at approximate times that she normally eats and drinks and to be played with??

Are you sure your child was not fed? :confused:

I do remember that in my old center the employees would occassionally get behind on paperwork because of the particularly BAD day (behavior wise) of one or two kids that kept them otherwise occupied.

I also got yanked from my room without warning often to handle some other "crisis" after I got my kids to sleep for nap (when paperwork is typically done). By the time I got back to my room, they were sending me home "for ratio" (since Lead title pays at a higher rate) and moving my kids to another room. The parents were never given THAT part of the story... Just "I don't know WHY she did not document that."

It was frustrating because it made it look like I had not done my job when in reality I did two employees worth that day... I also knew informing the parents would lead to my termination.

[Unregistered]

I am provider, and I ask my potential clients if child attended childcare before,and if they say yes, I ask where he went and why they left. Then, I call the provider and ask a same question ,why that child left? and if provider tells me ,child was super,but mama was complainer. I would not accept you.

How does someone like you even have a business?

[AnneCordelia]

How does someone like you even have a business?

Why is a provider not ethically allowed to ask for references from their potential clients? For many of us, we run business from our homes, where our families live and our children sleep. I absolutely require references from my clients, and I provide references of my own (including past clients) to new potential clients. The pendulum swings both ways.

[Unregistered]

is this legal?

our children attend a local daycare facility and it is a pretty good place. but then my kids both started getting sick after humidity hit a record high here for quite a period of time. i started looking into the situation and had found that the church they attend had taken about 3-4 feet of water in the basement two years before. when I questioned the daycare owner about it and if it had been properly cleaned and inspected she basically freaked out and said i was wrong for questioning her about such a thing and that " of course we had it cleaned and tested". then she tried to terminate service for me asking such a thing. I was shocked and explained that I wasn't doubting her but was worried for my childrens health and was simply checking all that could be causing the illness. that was that.

then about two months later with no issues. kids healthy (humidity went way down and was actually overly dry here) i forgot to leave the check one friday. first time ever late and when my wife picked the kids up she paid. she was told there was a $25 late fee but she had wrote the check before she left the house and had no cash to pay the $25. she was notified it would be $25 a day until it was payed. so basically $75 since we were coming to a weekend. my wife questioned why when we have never been late and the payment wasn't even 12h late that we would be penalized $75... kind of steep for two young parents of two. she terminated our service then and there...

something has to be wrong here!! please any info will help. we by no means want to get our kids back into this place as the owner has proven that she is a money hungry bully but it just doesn't sit well with me.