OFFICIALLY Sent to Collections..!

[Crystal]

I never expected parents to arrange their work schedules based on MY needs. They just picked up at the ballpark - everyone's needs were met that way. I think a little more understanding needs to be granted to providers in this respect since our hours are so long, much longer than a normal working parent. IMO, providers should HIRE A SUB to come in so they can take time off to go to important events. Why is it different for a parent to take off work early to pick up early, therefore losing pay....than it is for a provider to be out a few extra bucks by hiring someone to come in while we do whatever it is that we "want" to do? I think it would go a LONG way with parents if we show we have EVERYONE'S best interest at heart....including thier time at work and their RIGHT to demand that their child not be driven around so the provider can leave early.
If the fear is the other drivers on the road then do you just not drive yourself? No matter WHO drives (the parents or provider) there will be other drivers so why is it more scary when a provider is driving versus the parent?

I have one parent who does not allow her son to ride with me or to be in photos. On field trips he stays back with the babies and always has hurt feelings. Also I always have to shoo him out of the photos I take of the kids.

I responded above

[Crystal]

I wonder if the provider had a "regular" job and her boss wouldn't let her leave early, if she would just do it anyway? Doubtful

[Crystal]

Kelliot....

go to:

http://www.childcarelaw.org

You can email them about this.

[kelliott]

It all comes down to breach of contract. Whomever breached it if is addressed in the contract will be responsible. Even if it is not specifically addressed but referred to in some way, ie; if DCP has in there that State rules must be followed and transporting with a permission slip is a State regulation, then the DCP screwed up.

She should have refused your child care in the first place if you were not willing to let her transport. I learned a long time ago that it is my business and that as a parent of a child in my care you must follow my rules and one of those is that you sign all permission slips. I might have an emergency arise (gas main ruptured in front of my home)and if for no other reason must have that paper. My business, my rules.

I'm pretty sure that because you were inconveniencing her by being so uncooperative by not trusting her to transport, the DCP decided to teach you a lesson and it has backfired. I'm certain that it pissed her off that you were accusing her of being a bad driver even though she would have had her own family in the car and would do nothing to jeopardize their safety.

As far as not trusting the other drivers on the road, if that is the case then you would never transport your child ANYWHERE and need to not let the child ever leave your home. No trips to the doctor, grocery, beach(that in itself is a huge liability), grandparents, school, scouts, etc...looks like you need to stay home! Never get on public transportation, bus, train, airplane, etc, they are ALL driven by someone else. And for GODS sake do NOT walk on a sidewalk because someone might swerve off the road and hit your child.::

i was not just "being uncooperative".. i told her %100 i'd be willing to work with her on early pick ups if she would just give me notice enough to request the time

i never once accused her of being a bad driver!.. i completely agree with the above post that if ANYTHING were to happen to my boy, i'd rather it be with me or his dad..and nobody else.

[kelliott]

I wonder if the provider had a "regular" job and her boss wouldn't let her leave early, if she would just do it anyway? Doubtful

right???.... as a daycare provider i think it's important to remember that you technically are on the parents schedule..and you should get used to the fact that parents can't just leave work when they feel like it, unlike the providers themselves. providers get paid holidays, vacations, sick days(just like regualr employees)...i will never understand why they feel like making their own schedules at the risk of the parents losing their job should be included in that..not only that..but many of you get to stay home with your kids all day!.. if that ain't "the good life" already, i dont know what is..!

[crazydaycarelady]

do NOT walk on a sidewalk because someone might swerve off the road and hit your child.

http://missoulian.com/news/local/missoula-police-won-t-identify-woman-who-hit-killed-teen/article_b5f0b35e-a7d9-11e2-964c-0019bb2963f4.html

Seriously, THAT just happened in my town. A boy was walking down the sidewalk, was hit by an "inattentive" driver, and killed. The driver was charged with careless driving and gets a $500 fine, no jail. Tragic! Things like that can happen ANYTIME and ANYWHERE!

not only that..but many of you get to stay home with your kids all day!.. if that ain't "the good life" already, i dont know what is..!

Bwahahaha.......ALL jobs have pluses and minuses. One of the minuses of being a provider is long hours but I wouldn't say it's "the good life" until you've tried it!

[Greenplasticwateringcans]

right???.... as a daycare provider i think it's important to remember that you technically are on the parents schedule..and you should get used to the fact that parents can't just leave work when they feel like it, unlike the providers themselves. providers get paid holidays, vacations, sick days(just like regualr employees)...i will never understand why they feel like making their own schedules at the risk of the parents losing their job should be included in that..not only that..but many of you get to stay home with your kids all day!.. if that ain't "the good life" already, i dont know what is..!

Incorrect. I am on my schedule that works best for my daycare and my family and look for daycare families that fit into that schedule.

[kelliott]

Incorrect. I am on my schedule that works best for my daycare and my family and look for daycare families that fit into that schedule.

i understand that you and other providers have a schedule that they made and work with families that fit the schedule as well... i'm meaning to say that parents can't just work around a providers schedule if it is different than the one they signed up for.. i.e. last minute changes-my sons daycare schedule was 7:30-5:30...the night before she needs me to pick up an hour early, i can't just say "okay" and conform to her plans..

reading over my last post i agree that it could definitely rub some providers the wrong way..i apologize!! i just meant that if you set a schedule at signing a new family, then you should expect that schedule to be followed by BOTH parties. i get that DCPs are human and get illnesses, emergencies, etc... but other than that, you are working with a parents schedule just as they are working with yours and if you are not willing to do that than maybe this is not the profession for you..

[crazydaycarelady]

Was there any agreement on how much notice she would be giving you? I know from past experience that you usually get the entire season schedule at the beginning so you should have gotten enough notice.

I hope it works out for you. Good luck!

[JoseyJo]

right???.... as a daycare provider i think it's important to remember that you technically are on the parents schedule..and you should get used to the fact that parents can't just leave work when they feel like it, unlike the providers themselves. providers get paid holidays, vacations, sick days(just like regualr employees)...i will never understand why they feel like making their own schedules at the risk of the parents losing their job should be included in that..not only that..but many of you get to stay home with your kids all day!.. if that ain't "the good life" already, i dont know what is..!

Seriously?? It seems that you think being a daycare provider is all peaches and cream. If it is the best job a person can have then why aren't you one? Maybe you should think about doing it for a living. Then you could have "the good life" and get to spend alllll day with your child AND other children from different families and try to keep all your "bosses" happy (since you seem to think that a daycare provider is a employee not a business owner)...

Should your provider have transported w/o your permission? No.

Did she do anything illegal? sounds like not from what you heard from licensing (maybe she did, but you would have to check with an attorney, the state, etc, not with daycare providers on a forum).

Did she void the contract? Maybe, maybe not. Again, you would need to check with an attorney, not daycare providers on a forum!

YOU chose this provider- you could have chosen a center, or even a home provider that did not ever go anywhere. YOU chose to take the chance. Regardless of what the provider did she has the right to send you to collections. You can either take your chances (again), either get an attorney or not, or pay up!

[Greenplasticwateringcans]

i understand that you and other providers have a schedule that they made and work with families that fit the schedule as well... i'm meaning to say that parents can't just work around a providers schedule if it is different than the one they signed up for.. i.e. last minute changes-my sons daycare schedule was 7:30-5:30...the night before she needs me to pick up an hour early, i can't just say "okay" and conform to her plans..

reading over my last post i agree that it could definitely rub some providers the wrong way..i apologize!! i just meant that if you set a schedule at signing a new family, then you should expect that schedule to be followed by BOTH parties. i get that DCPs are human and get illnesses, emergencies, etc... but other than that, you are working with a parents schedule just as they are working with yours and if you are not willing to do that than maybe this is not the profession for you..

Okay I see what you meant now and agree with your explanation.

Being a care provider is hard business and even in my easiest years has never been "living the life"

[snowball]

In the other post wasn't it stated that the OP did fill put the traps sort part but then made a note below it?

If that is the case the DCP did not void the contract and OP would have to pay.

[kelliott]

In the other post wasn't it stated that the OP did fill put the traps sort part but then made a note below it?

If that is the case the DCP did not void the contract and OP would have to pay.

on the slip it had two boxes to mark i.e i do give ____ permission... or i do NOT give ____ permission

i marked that i did not give permission and even when she texted me she said "...even though you did not approve it"... she knew i did not okay for her to take my son off the premises

[kelliott]

Okay I see what you meant now and agree with your explanation.

Being a care provider is hard business and even in my easiest years has never been "living the life"

i guess that's true.. i would loooovveee to spend all day everyday with my son!!.. i guess i forget about the *taking care of others' snotty, rude, clingy, dirty, spoiled, loud* kids too :P... not that all kids are like that! iv met some quite nice and polite ones lately

[snowball]

on the slip it had two boxes to mark i.e i do give ____ permission... or i do NOT give ____ permission

i marked that i did not give permission and even when she texted me she said "...even though you did not approve it"... she knew i did not okay for her to take my son off the premises

Oh, I see. I must have misread.

I'm not sure then. I will say I don't agree with the provider transporting, but I think you had the responsibility to pick your son up early.

I understand that you said this wasn't possible, but as a provider I would have tried to call you and if I was unable to reach your contacts I would have called social services.

The reason I'm bringing this up is because since there were bad decisions made by both parties do you think she would be willing to settle for half?