OFFICIALLY Sent to Collections..!

[Greenplasticwateringcans]

Since Tom Copeland is an attorney and he even replied that the provider broke the contract by transporting WITHOUT parental consent, I am still an odd duck because I believe you will NOT be responsible for the 4 weeks notice or payment for it.

NO parent should be forced to keep their child enrolled in a facility where they feel it is unsafe.

I also think you need to contact an attorney in YOUR state as Tom is probably most familiar with laws in MN and although he gave his two cents, it isn't a sure thing since different states have different laws.

For example in my state when someone turns you into collections you, as a debtor have the right to file a rebuttal and any time someone runs a credit check on you or tries to collect from you, your rebuttal as to why you don't feel the debt is legitimate is also made known.

Please call an attorney in your state. Most will consult with you for free and are usually happy to help.

I'm with Blackcat

Quack

As a provider I am pretty appalled by your previous DCP.

[Blackcat31]

I'm with Blackcat

Quack

As a provider I am pretty appalled by your previous DCP.

::::

[MarinaVanessa]

I'm with Blackcat

Quack

As a provider I am pretty appalled by your previous DCP.

Quack Quack.

Talk to an attorney, I think you have a fair chance.

[crazydaycarelady]

I have not had time to read all of the responses but I think you need to pay. You signed a contract concerning his care so you need to abide by it.



As a provider with male children I think you will understand how important it is to attend your childrens games when your own child is older. I find it ridiculous when someone trusts me with their child all day but not in the car. I used to take my dckids to my sons games and the parents would pick them up there. You either trust the provider all the time or you don't.

[Blackcat31]

I have not had time to read all of the responses but I think you need to pay. You signed a contract concerning his care so you need to abide by it.



As a provider with male children I think you will understand how important it is to attend your childrens games when your own child is older. I find it ridiculous when someone trusts me with their child all day but not in the car. I used to take my dckids to my sons games and the parents would pick them up there.

As a parent, I NEVER allowed my provider to transport my child. It wasn't the provider I didn't trust, it was the other drivers on the road.

As the parent of children who were in lots of sports and as a business owner, I am the one who needs to arrange my ability to be at my child's games around MY work schedule and not expect parents to work their schedules around my personal life.

[MarinaVanessa]

As a parent, I NEVER allowed my provider to transport my child. It wasn't the provider I didn't trust, it was the other drivers on the road.

As the parent of children who were in lots of sports and as a business owner, I am the one who needs to arrange my ability to be at my child's games around MY work schedule and not expect parents to work their schedules around my personal life.

[crazydaycarelady]

I never expected parents to arrange their work schedules based on MY needs. They just picked up at the ballpark - everyone's needs were met that way. I think a little more understanding needs to be granted to providers in this respect since our hours are so long, much longer than a normal working parent.

If the fear is the other drivers on the road then do you just not drive yourself? No matter WHO drives (the parents or provider) there will be other drivers so why is it more scary when a provider is driving versus the parent?

I have one parent who does not allow her son to ride with me or to be in photos. On field trips he stays back with the babies and always has hurt feelings. Also I always have to shoo him out of the photos I take of the kids.

[Blackcat31]

I never expected parents to arrange their work schedules based on MY needs. They just picked up at the ballpark - everyone's needs were met that way. I think a little more understanding needs to be granted to providers in this respect since our hours are so long, much longer than a normal working parent.

If the fear is the other drivers on the road then do you just not drive yourself? No matter WHO drives (the parents or provider) there will be other drivers so why is it more scary when a provider is driving versus the parent?

I have one parent who does not allow her son to ride with me or to be in photos. On field trips he stays back with the babies and always has hurt feelings. Also I always have to shoo him out of the photos I take of the kids.

No, I am not that fanatic.

It's just that IF something were to ever happen to MY child, I preferred it to be under MY watch and NOT someone elses.

What we do with our own children and the liability we assume for their safety is COMPLETELY different than the liability we assume for someone else's child's safety...kwim?

My personal perspective on this is that I ''get" that I work long hours doing what I do but that is MY choice and the fact that I do work those long hours shouldn't be placed onto the parents to have to make up for.

[crazydaycarelady]

I think for my dcparents they were glad I took the kids along. The other option would have been to close early, but this way everyone got what they needed.

If I had kids in dc I know I would try to be accommodating of my providers needs and those of her family. Nothing better for kids than a happy provider!

[Blackcat31]

I think for my dcparents they were glad I took the kids along. The other option would have been to close early, but this way everyone got what they needed.

Hey, if it works for you and your DC families then there is NOTHING wrong with that.

We all need to do what works best for us and for our clients and I certainly wouldn't have signed on a family that expected me to transport any more than I would have signed on with a provider who transported.

The #1 rule in interviewing....make sure the family is a good fit, not just a filler for the space.

[BBDC]

I think you should talk to an attorney if you dont want to pay. Truthfully I would never transport without permission. But would have termed you on the spot when you didnt come. (maybe even called social services on you if I couldnt get anyone else on your list) because I kind of feel like you were not planning on picking him up even though you knew she needed you too. And that would really make me "mad" as a provider.

I think you have three options:

1. talk to an attorney
2. pay the money
3. talk to the provider and try and settle it out of court

[crazydaycarelady]

I agree this provider and family were not a good fit from the get-go!

[Childminder]

It all comes down to breach of contract. Whomever breached it if is addressed in the contract will be responsible. Even if it is not specifically addressed but referred to in some way, ie; if DCP has in there that State rules must be followed and transporting with a permission slip is a State regulation, then the DCP screwed up.

She should have refused your child care in the first place if you were not willing to let her transport. I learned a long time ago that it is my business and that as a parent of a child in my care you must follow my rules and one of those is that you sign all permission slips. I might have an emergency arise (gas main ruptured in front of my home)and if for no other reason must have that paper. My business, my rules.

I'm pretty sure that because you were inconveniencing her by being so uncooperative by not trusting her to transport, the DCP decided to teach you a lesson and it has backfired. I'm certain that it pissed her off that you were accusing her of being a bad driver even though she would have had her own family in the car and would do nothing to jeopardize their safety.

As far as not trusting the other drivers on the road, if that is the case then you would never transport your child ANYWHERE and need to not let the child ever leave your home. No trips to the doctor, grocery, beach(that in itself is a huge liability), grandparents, school, scouts, etc...looks like you need to stay home! Never get on public transportation, bus, train, airplane, etc, they are ALL driven by someone else. And for GODS sake do NOT walk on a sidewalk because someone might swerve off the road and hit your child.::

[AmyKidsCo]

I agree that you should speak to an attorney - what we all think really doesn't count when push comes to shove. (A judge isn't going to ask us and go with majority rule, kwim?)

I hope you can find an attorney who will help you at a reasonable price.

[BBDC]

\

I agree that you should speak to an attorney - what we all think really doesn't count when push comes to shove. (A judge isn't going to ask us and go with majority rule, kwim?)

I hope you can find an attorney who will help you at a reasonable price.