Didn’t Answer My Phone So They Stopped Over....Last Night

[blessedmess8]

Oops! I fed the troll, didn't I? Sorry!! I couldn't resist!

[Blackcat31]

Actually, not necessarily true. This is unregistered user has had several posts in a normal conversation manner. She simply made a comment and IMHO, just because she made a comment in reference to her choice to NOT choose a daycare home doesn't automatically make her a troll. kwim? She is entitled to her opinion.

Instead of members constantly calling unregistered users trolls, why don't we either not comment all together or try to constructively show others the positives of home based child care programs.

I know the subject has been beaten to death but I think unregistered posters should get a bit more respect. There are a few members on this forum who have agreed that OP shouldn't have gotten so upset.

I have been a family child care provider for almost two decades...had I come across this forum as a parent, I would NEVER have choosen to send my child to a home based program either. Just my opinon.

[Unregistered]

AGREE.

It's as simple as this: If you call the provider after hours and get no answer then leave a message or send a text. If you do NOT hear back from the provider then your last-minute request is NOT approved. Do not keep calling, do not show up at the providers door, and do not show up earlier than your scheduled time. Make other arrangements.

Isn't this just common sense!!?

Maybe it needs to be in a policy...NOT to drop over outside of daycare hours, . I don't even drop in on my friends or relatives, very rude imo.

[Meeko]

Actually, not necessarily true. This is unregistered user has had several posts in a normal conversation manner. She simply made a comment and IMHO, just because she made a comment in reference to her choice to NOT choose a daycare home doesn't automatically make her a troll. kwim? She is entitled to her opinion.

Instead of members constantly calling unregistered users trolls, why don't we either not comment all together or try to constructively show others the positives of home based child care programs.

I know the subject has been beaten to death but I think unregistered posters should get a bit more respect. There are a few members on this forum who have agreed that OP shouldn't have gotten so upset.

I have been a family child care provider for almost two decades...had I come across this forum as a parent, I would NEVER have choosen to send my child to a home based program either. Just my opinon.

How can you tell that this unregistered is the same one who posted before? I thought unregistered meant anon??

[Kaddidle Care]

@ Blackcat:

Ahh but I don't work in a Home Based Program.

I think throwing "rocks" at Home Based Providers is pretty rude here since from what I've seen, most of the more active members are Home Based Providers.

I respect your comment and will do my best to not post the Troll so much. I think I've only posted it twice but I'm not counting.

[Unregistered]

Blackcat says: There are a few members on this forum who have agreed that OP shouldn't have gotten so upset.


The OP had EVERY right to be upset. She had a disrespectful parent that was knocking at her door AFTER hours.

This is her home after hours. This is her family time after hours. This is her personal life after hours.

If she did not want to answer her phone AFTER hours....she was on her PERSONAL time. The parent could of left a message and if the OP did not want to return the call she did not have to. The parent SHOULD of taken care of this before OP was closed. So the next time the parent will call at 11pm, 5am....humm

OP...you are 100% correct in feeling the way you did!! (smiles and hugs to you).



And I agree 100% with Nan......NO IS NO!

[Kaddidle Care]

How can you tell that this unregistered is the same one who posted before? I thought unregistered meant anon??

It's possible she's an Admin and can view IP numbers.

[Blackcat31]

@ Blackcat:

Ahh but I don't work in a Home Based Program.

I think throwing "rocks" at Home Based Providers is pretty rude here since from what I've seen, most of the more active members are Home Based Providers.

I respect your comment and will do my best to not post the Troll so much. I think I've only posted it twice but I'm not counting.

I didn't mean any direspect to you but I also didn't think the unregistered's post was throwing rocks at everyone JUST stating her opinion about why SHE didn't choose home daycare. She is also the poster of post numbers #14 and #15.

Blackcat says: There are a few members on this forum who have agreed that OP shouldn't have gotten so upset.


The OP had EVERY right to be upset. She had a disrespectful parent that was knocking at her door AFTER hours.

This is her home after hours. This is her family time after hours. This is her personal life after hours.

If she did not want to answer her phone AFTER hours....she was on her PERSONAL time. The parent could of left a message and if the OP did not want to return the call she did not have to. The parent SHOULD of taken care of this before OP was closed. So the next time the parent will call at 11pm, 5am....humm

OP...you are 100% correct in feeling the way you did!! (smiles and hugs to you).



And I agree 100% with Nan......NO IS NO!

Just because some members didn't agree doesn't mean they are right. OP can feel however she chooses to feel.....HER business to run any way SHE feels comfortable with. Again the beauty of self employment!

Members who disagreed, are also entitled to give their opinions. BOTH for and against......Beauty of free speech!

It's possible she's an Admin and can view IP numbers.

Correct. I am a mod.

I also feel that just because someone is unregistered doesn't automatically make them a troll. I felt she was called one because she stated her opinion which was against home based care. Her choice. We do not have to agree. We can simply move along and not respond or we can respectfully try to show her our viewpoint. Either choice is fine.

I just feel like the name calling and finger pointing goes both ways. If a registered member had made the post, we wouldn't have called her a troll, we would have just had a debate about it. But why does a member having a name and avatar gain them anymore respect than the word unregistered? Michael has made it very clear about why he wants this forum to be an open forum.

I think that many posters say things that are negative or very opinionated but for me, I just answer or don't. It really makes no difference who it is. The poster in this thread simply said "And yet you give me yet another reason why my family has chosen center care and would never hire a home based provider." What was so wrong with HER personal opinion? Home daycare is not something she would choose based on unavailability like OP was stating. I just don't see what was wrong with that personal opinion. It wasn't mine and I didn't agree so I didn't comment.

[Unregistered]

How do parents request a change then if you don't allow business to be done after hours? For example, what if dentist calls and can get kid in first thing the next morning, but parents don't find out until after they get home from work and you're closed and they're contracted hours are different then their request? Or what if mom or dad are having car trouble and need to get the vehicle into the dealership early the next morning and thus need to get kid to you early and their contracted hours are different then their request?

I don't give my parents contracted hours. They can drop off or pick up any time between 6 am and 6 pm.

[nannyde]

How do parents request a change then if you don't allow business to be done after hours? For example, what if dentist calls and can get kid in first thing the next morning, but parents don't find out until after they get home from work and you're closed and they're contracted hours are different then their request? Or what if mom or dad are having car trouble and need to get the vehicle into the dealership early the next morning and thus need to get kid to you early and their contracted hours are different then their request?

For example, what if dentist calls and can get kid in first thing the next morning, but parents don't find out until after they get home from work and you're closed and they're contracted hours are different then their request?

Then the parent calls in the morning when she knows the provider is open and tells the provider she is going to be late dropping off because kid goes to Dentist and they pick up at normal pick up time.

Or what if mom or dad are having car trouble and need to get the vehicle into the dealership early the next morning and thus need to get kid to you early and their contracted hours are different then their request.

The parents take the kid to the dealership with them and bring the child to you at normal times or later than normal drop off and pick up at regular time.

See what you think is that if something happens with the parent that we become somehow involved in that mix.

If the provider is available and able to answer the request then all is cool. If they aren't available then the parent needs to figure it out without considering the provider in the mix.

The car dealership... dentist... doesn't have ANYTHING to do with the provider. The parent just needs to tell them if they are going to be late and make sure the kid is picked up on their contracted time. If the provider is out of the home during the time the parent needs to drop off then get ahold of them during working hours and arrange the time the kid CAN come.

[sharlan]

That's the beauty of family daycare. We are able to operate our businesses the way we want as long as we work within our state's regs.

For the OP and others, the parents crossed the line. For ME, it would have been a non-issue that I wouldn't have thought twice about.

I feel that it's really unfair to slam all family daycares because the OP was offended. I also feel that it would be unfair to slam all centers because somebody disagreed with their policies. Centers and family daycares are two different worlds doing the same job. They both have their good and bad points.

[mom2many]

parents leave a text or voicemail for a change in schedule. no one drops by and no one is allowed unexpected drop offs. if someone just popped over to drop off, I would say no even if I had the room just to make the point that you can't come and go whenever. I am very good about responding to text or message. I don't FB with daycare parents. emails are for non urgent requests only. you can contact me after hours but don't expect an immediate reply. if you are asking a question, you assume the answer is no unless you get a yes. thats put the parents in responsibility for a backup plan, not me.

I agree with this and have found this to be very effective. I have parents conveying via text and phone msg at various times and it doesn't bother me if it is after hours, because I can respond if I want to. For the most part, I truly appreciate knowing if someone won't be arriving as early as expected, so I can sleep in or have a leisurely morning!

I just like knowing in advance and if they find out after daycare hours, I would rather be informed than not.

I have to say, in all of the years of doing this the parents have ALWAYS been fantastic and considerate, so for me this has never been an issue.

[My Daycare]

I would have been upset too, but because I can't stand anyone who does that. I don't usually answer the door for anyone I know that pops up unexpectedly and could have called and asked. I have been like this since long before I started home daycare. I think that most of the time it's rude, and like someone posted above, the answer is no since she didn't answer the phone.

[Unregistered]

to Michael & Blackcat

Thanks for the clear violation of privacy rules and being anonymous by reporting to the entire forum that I posted to #14 and #15. Blackcat obviously had bad intentions by posting that and I know it violates moderator rules because I've looked it up. Your own members even questions Blackcat doing that. Thanks - you'll NEVER see my IP address on this forum ever again - that's how you know I'm the same person. Nice back handed compliment Blackcat - stick up for me, then stick it to me. Thanks - sickening you guys all treat unregistered users so poorly. Don't bother replying, I won't be hear anymore to read it anyway. Thanks for ruining my privacy.

[Crystal]

If this happened during daycare hours, I would understand the unnanounced stop-by and think they were just trying to be considerate. After hours would make me think they were "spying" to see what type of person I am outside of daycare.

I'd have been upset. It is unfair to intrude on your personal family time, no matter the reason. That parent could have happened upon anything, and I don't want parents butting into what I do after hours.