Point of Grace Preschool in Waukee

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  • laundrymom
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 4177

    #91
    I will tread lightly, I respect you, your posts are thoughtful, helpful and usually non discriminatory. I have to be honest when I say, I think someone may have hacked your acct and written this post. However I realize this may just be your hot button. I am not one to stir up trouble. I'm not one to label, point fingers, or try to hide my feelings.
    I am bothered by your statement that in a moment of intense fear, horror or shock, that most would respond by cursing.
    Personally,..
    When I am scared I call on my Lord. I do not curse in his name.
    When my closest male relative took his life in a very gruesome way, I cried for God to help me understand, when my best friends daughter was diagnosed with leukemia I fell to my knees in prayer for her, when my niece died of SIDS I wept while praying for healing for her parents. I never once thought to curse, but to ask for help. I really try to think before I post. I try to get my thoughts in check before I say something.

    I think there are a lot more people who respond like me. Also, I can't think where it says in my bible that I cannot drink alcohol if I choose to. Which I don't but that's not the point.



    Originally posted by wdmmom
    This pre-school/daycare is so worried about a code of conduct and ensuring that these childcare workers live up to their high standards.

    It seems very discriminatory to me.

    Are you going to kick patrons out of your church for living that way?! Even the strongest bible thumper is going to have a drink every so often. What about the guy sitting in the back pew that lost his job because he's an alcoholic? Are you going to condemn him too?!

    WE ARE ALL SINNERS!!!!!

    That is why some choose to go to church...forgiveness of sins. Even the holy book says that we are all sinners and we all sin everyday in some way, shape or form. (Of course not those exact words.)

    No two families live the same. These are rules this employer is setting forth. I'm sure there is no "grace period" or excuse if you disobey.

    (For example: If you just got a phone call telling you that your sister was in a car accident and they aren't going to survive, do you mean to tell me you aren't going to swear or even take the lords name in vain?!) I guarantee 99% of us would be guilty.

    This employer needs to realize that this isn't the 1960's anymore. Women do not act all prim and proper like they used to and I think that is what they are expecting.

    They want June Cleaver working in their daycare center wearing dresses and high heels.

    When they get off their high horse and don't have any employees or so few that they can't operate, maybe they'll realize that this isn't a democracy!

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    • unregistered member

      #92
      Wow. They are being racists. No way would I tolerate that. Not a chance. SO happy my children don't have to be exposed to crap like that.

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      • youretooloud
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 1955

        #93
        Originally posted by unregistered
        Wow. They are being racists. No way would I tolerate that. Not a chance. SO happy my children don't have to be exposed to crap like that.
        :confused: :confused:
        Last edited by Michael; 08-27-2011, 06:25 PM.

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        • familyschoolcare
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 1284

          #94
          Originally posted by unregistered
          Wow. They are being racists. No way would I tolerate that. Not a chance. SO happy my children don't have to be exposed to crap like that.
          :confused::confused:How are they being racists what does once race have to do with the way they live their life?:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
          Last edited by Michael; 08-27-2011, 06:25 PM.

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          • unregistered member

            #95
            Originally posted by familyschoolcare
            :confused::confused:How are they being racists what does once race have to do with the way they live their life?:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
            From what I read it sounds like the daycare doesn't want homosexuals working there? Did I miss something or did some peopke just add that in their posts. That was what I was referring too. If that's the truth then it's sad and wrong.

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            • momofsix
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 1846

              #96
              Originally posted by laundrymom
              I will tread lightly, I respect you, your posts are thoughtful, helpful and usually non discriminatory. I have to be honest when I say, I think someone may have hacked your acct and written this post. However I realize this may just be your hot button. I am not one to stir up trouble. I'm not one to label, point fingers, or try to hide my feelings.
              I am bothered by your statement that in a moment of intense fear, horror or shock, that most would respond by cursing.
              Personally,..
              When I am scared I call on my Lord. I do not curse in his name.
              When my closest male relative took his life in a very gruesome way, I cried for God to help me understand, when my best friends daughter was diagnosed with leukemia I fell to my knees in prayer for her, when my niece died of SIDS I wept while praying for healing for her parents. I never once thought to curse, but to ask for help. I really try to think before I post. I try to get my thoughts in check before I say something.

              I think there are a lot more people who respond like me. Also, I can't think where it says in my bible that I cannot drink alcohol if I choose to. Which I don't but that's not the point.
              Beautifu response Laundry, my thoughts exactly.

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              • Blackcat31
                • Oct 2010
                • 36124

                #97
                Originally posted by unregistered
                Wow. They are being racists. No way would I tolerate that. Not a chance. SO happy my children don't have to be exposed to crap like that.
                This has nothing to do with racism. Discrimination maybe, but nothing at all to do with racism. Not wanting people of other sexual natures is discriminatory not racist. Racism has to do only with a persons race.

                It is the perogative of the religious entity to have whatever rules they feel they need.

                I strongly believe ~ to each his own and we can all run our programs and businesses in any manner we feel comfortable with so long as we are inside the legal parameters set forth by our governing bodies. I am not sure why, but I am sort of offended that you state "So happy my children do not have to be exposed to this crap."

                Eventually, when your children do go to school, they will be exposed to many different life styles and beliefs. Some will be the same as their own and others will vary vastly but to call someone else's beliefs carp is really intolerant IMHO.



                Maybe that isn't exactly what you meant and if not I apologize but I LOVE that we can come on this forum and read and discuss like adults differing viewpoints.
                Last edited by Michael; 08-27-2011, 06:26 PM.

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                • Unregistered

                  #98
                  That school could be missing out!

                  That school could really let some good teachers pass by because of how strict their expectation are.

                  Also, I have been a teacher at a christian daycare and the parent of a child at that daycare and I went to a catholic school until I was a freshman. I was great at following the daycare's policies during daycare hours, which was all that they expected of me. I'm not saying that I left work and immediately thought "Alright! It's 5:30PM and I've got some sinning to do!".

                  As far as my schooling was concerned, I feel like I would have benefited more from a secular school. The nuns never seemed even remotely happy and they were very irritated with children who asked questions about faith. I grew up feeling like I was a bad christian because I didn't readily accept what I was taught without understanding it. I can see the potential for this happening with the daycare that's in the news.

                  I don't have a problem with faith based schools. I really don't. I just think that this particular daycare's expectations are unfair. As long as the teachers are doing their jobs well and following the policies when they are working, then their free time shouldn't be scrutinized unless there's a valid reason to do so.

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                  • nannyde
                    All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 7320

                    #99
                    Originally posted by unregistered
                    From what I read it sounds like the daycare doesn't want homosexuals working there? Did I miss something or did some peopke just add that in their posts. That was what I was referring too. If that's the truth then it's sad and wrong.
                    This is in their terms
                    You are not currently practicing a homosexual or bisexual lifestyle.
                    Last edited by Michael; 08-27-2011, 06:26 PM.
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                    • unregistered member

                      Yup, discrimination. That's the right word. Thanks.

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                      • Blackcat31
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 36124

                        Originally posted by unregistered
                        Yup, discrimination. That's the right word. Thanks.
                        I thought that is what you meant. To them though it isn't discrimination, it is a belief. A belief that is their legal right to uphold if they choose.
                        Last edited by Michael; 08-27-2011, 06:27 PM.

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                        • youretooloud
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 1955

                          Originally posted by nannyde
                          This is in their terms
                          You are not currently practicing a homosexual or bisexual lifestyle.
                          I have a deeply religious cousin who also happens to be Gay. She chooses not to practice a Homosexual lifestyle. She also chose not to marry a man because she wouldn't love him the right way. She chooses to have a life without a Significant Other. Many wonderful doors have been opened for her that may not have been if she'd chosen the path she was born with.

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                          • mom2many
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 1278

                            Originally posted by familyschoolcare
                            :confused::confused:How are they being racists what does once race have to do with the way they live their life?:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
                            Huh????? I'm just as confused! :confused::confused::confused::confused: What does race have to do with this? ::

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                            • familyschoolcare
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 1284

                              Originally posted by unregistered
                              From what I read it sounds like the daycare doesn't want homosexuals working there? Did I miss something or did some peopke just add that in their posts. That was what I was referring too. If that's the truth then it's sad and wrong.
                              Oh, I have never consider being homosexual to be a race. To me your race has more to do with where you are born.
                              Last edited by Michael; 08-27-2011, 06:27 PM.

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                              • Blackcat31
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 36124

                                Originally posted by mom2many
                                Huh????? I'm just as confused! :confused::confused::confused::confused: What does race have to do with this? ::
                                Originally posted by familyschoolcare
                                Oh, I have never consider being homosexual to be a race. To me your race has more to do with where you are born.
                                She meant discrimination not racism. She clarified in her last post. (post #100)

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