Point of Grace Preschool in Waukee

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  • nannyde
    All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
    • Mar 2010
    • 7320

    #31
    Originally posted by Blackcat31
    A religious entity is permitted to give preference in employment to individuals of a particular religion. A religious entity may require that all applicants and employees conform to the religious tenets of such organization." [/I]
    There it is.
    http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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    • laundrymom
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 4177

      #32
      I can't open it, can someone paraphrase?

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      • laundrymom
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 4177

        #33
        Originally posted by Catherder
        I thought many Churches sold discrimination as a product....

        Yep, I am going to pay for that one....

        Eh, I am still bitter about the whole Churches protesting at Military Funerals thing.... You know...the guys dying because of Religious wars and all
        I have to add, that is a select group of extremists who are following a Shepard who is leading his flock astray. It's not the norm. A few bad apples who are not supported by any other churches, religions, or leaders.

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        • unregistered member

          #34
          That video is scary. The daycare owner must be a crazy person or completely warped. I'd never work there and would never send my children to a building with rules like that. Views like that belong at home NOT in the work place.

          Wow. Scary..

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          • Blackcat31
            • Oct 2010
            • 36124

            #35
            Originally posted by laundrymom
            I can't open it, can someone paraphrase?
            It wasn't a link, I just underlined the section of the ADA act that specifies that religious entities have special rules and can dictate what their employees do and/or don't do. They are operating well within their means as a religious organization and are not breaking any laws in regards to discrimination.

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            • laundrymom
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 4177

              #36
              Originally posted by Blackcat31
              It wasn't a link, I just underlined the section of the ADA act that specifies that religious entities have special rules and can dictate what their employees do and/or don't do. They are operating well within their means as a religious organization and are not breaking any laws in regards to discrimination.
              No the story, im on an iPod and apple flashplayer are not in kahoots yet. Lol

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              • sharlan
                Daycare.com Member
                • May 2011
                • 6067

                #37
                It's their church, their preschool, they're within their legal rights.

                I do not agree with them, but they didn't ask my opinion.
                Last edited by sharlan; 08-24-2011, 11:09 AM. Reason: off topic

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                • Blackcat31
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 36124

                  #38
                  Originally posted by laundrymom
                  No the story, im on an iPod and apple flashplayer are not in kahoots yet. Lol
                  Oops, sorry, didn't dawn on me that you meant the OP link...duh! LOL! It is a story about a religious daycare who is dictating the behaviors of it's emplyees outside their work hours. Such as no drinking, premarital s e x and other "frowned" upon behaviors that are not good behaviors according to the church. This will apply to new and current employees.

                  If the employees want to keep their jobs with the new owners they will need to sign an contract or agreement stating they will not partake in "sinful" behavior.

                  That is pretty much the cliff notes on it.

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                  • Cat Herder
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 13744

                    #39
                    Originally posted by laundrymom
                    I have to add, that is a select group of extremists who are following a Shepard who is leading his flock astray. It's not the norm. A few bad apples who are not supported by any other churches, religions, or leaders.
                    Oh, hun..... I know that. I believe in Faith. With my heart and soul. I know I have a purpose.

                    I just don't believe in segregation or damnation.

                    I live in the rural (deep/dirty) south notorious for many "extremists" so I get to see alot more of the bad apples.

                    Pay me no attention, ok?
                    - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                    • laundrymom
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 4177

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Blackcat31
                      Oops, sorry, didn't dawn on me that you meant the OP link...duh! LOL! It is a story about a religious daycare who is dictating the behaviors of it's emplyees outside their work hours. Such as no drinking, premarital s e x and other "frowned" upon behaviors that are not good behaviors according to the church. This will apply to new and current employees.

                      If the employees want to keep their jobs with the new owners they will need to sign an contract or agreement stating they will not partake in "sinful" behavior.

                      That is pretty much the cliff notes on it.
                      Thanks. :-)
                      Wow, my take would be,...hmmm well if I sent my child to a church daycare, and found out my Childs caregiver was pool hall hoochie. I would be upset. I would have chosen the daycare that best fits my personal beliefs. And finding out the teacher was oUt
                      Doing things against my belief system. I'd pull my kid.

                      I see it no different than requiring employees to not have visible tattoos, keep hair cut a certain way, be clean shaven, or drive a particular car to work. Those are the conditions of the job. Like it or not. It's a condition of employment. I think there should be a time period for current employees to either find alternative employment or change their lifestyle. I do think they will have trouble finding people to work, but think they are well in their rights to put conditions on employment.

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                      • laundrymom
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 4177

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Catherder
                        Oh, hun..... I know that. I believe in Faith. With my heart and soul. I know I have a purpose.

                        I just don't believe in segregation or damnation.

                        I live in the rural (deep/dirty) south notorious for many "extremists" so I get to see alot more of the bad apples.

                        Pay me no attention, ok?
                        :-). Still buddies ????

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                        • Cat Herder
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 13744

                          #42
                          Originally posted by laundrymom
                          :-). Still buddies ????
                          Absolutely!!!!
                          - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                          • wdmmom
                            Advanced Daycare.com
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 2713

                            #43
                            While they may be able to pull this off, I really don't think it's going to boost their ratings or attendance. (I really think that's all they are hoping for.)

                            If you don't have full staff, you can't run full numbers!

                            I really think the EEOC (Equal Employment Opportunity Commission) would say that this is not equal practices of employment.

                            The state unemployment rate is high and this is only going to make it higher.

                            Sorry but the "holier than thou" can shove it! I'd quit my job too!

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                            • MyAngels
                              Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 4217

                              #44
                              I'm curious as to how they think they are going to police this. Will they have church members out with video cameras in the dark of night, peeking in folks' windows? The "P.O.R __police," I suppose ::::.

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                              • jen2651
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 230

                                #45
                                Shouldn't the focus be on how well they take care of the kiddos?! I know tons of people who don't drink, smoke, premarital sex, blah blah blah, who are HORRIBLE with children. Unfortunately, I at one point or another have pretty much failed every one of their criteria to be a good caretaker and I am fantastic with kids! I love them, their mess, their dirt, their sloppy kisses, not their tantrums, but pretty much else...AND, not trying to get political or religious, but just because someone is gay and the church disapproves doesn't mean they can't lead a kick @ss craft time!!

                                I understand they are trying to make values and morals a higher priority in today's society, where it seems things are slipping and slipping. But, if my church look at my husband and I with those judgmental eyes, we would have moved on to find a different church...we had a baby out of wedlock and are now married with another one and two stepkids and we are as happy as can be - AND, I can wipe a great butt!!

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