Point of Grace Preschool in Waukee

[momofsix]

As others have said, very common in private schools. If I made the choice to send my child to a church-based childcare center it would be with the expectation that the teachers would be Christians;that would be what sets it apart from the daycare"'across the street".
We live in a city that has quite a few Christian colleges, and even the profs there sigh lifestyle agreements upon being hired. If colleges can have profs do it them I'm sure a preschool/daycare can get away with it!
I don't see them having a hard time making money at all...we have many Christian daycares, preschools, dayschools and as mentioned earlier, colleges. They all cost a fortune!::

[mac60]

No they're not. No one is forcing anyone to work there. If you don't agree with their requirements you can choose not to work for them.

But there are certain things they can not disqualify you for work. And yes they are discriminating in these situation.

[wdmmom]

With the economy being in the crapper as it is, now they feel the need to do this?!

I didn't realize that we were letting the world come to this type of behavior!

Doesn't "God's Book" also say not to judge people?!

I think that's what all of these rules are...judgements! Be a puppet or be gone! SAD!!!

[mac60]

While it is sad that some workers will lose their jobs...it is the right of the owner to run their business any way they see fit. That's how we do it, right? WE make the rules and policies of our own day care. These people are doing the same.

Yes, but I would think we could get in trouble if we were state licensed and said I can't allow you in my daycare because you are not Catholic, drink beer, have premarital sex, say **** on occassion, I could go on and on. What if a potential employee is athiest.....I don't think you can discriminate this way.

[Blackcat31]

Yes, but I would think we could get in trouble if we were state licensed and said I can't allow you in my daycare because you are not Catholic, drink beer, have premarital sex, say **** on occassion, I could go on and on. What if a potential employee is athiest.....I don't think you can discriminate this way.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think church's do not have to follow the normal discrimination rules that every other business needs to abide by. I think churches are licensed but have a lot of loopholes made just for them.


"A religious entity is a religious organization or an entity controlled by a religious organization, including a place of worship and parochial schools.

Section 307 of the ADA provides that religious organizations and entities controlled by religious organizations are not subject to the requirements for public accommodations or commercial facilities under Title III of the Act. Religious organizations, such as Synagogues and religious-controlled schools may, however, accommodate individuals with disabilities at their own discretion, and do not waive their exemption from the requirements of Title III by doing so.

A religious entity is permitted to give preference in employment to individuals of a particular religion. A religious entity may require that all applicants and employees conform to the religious tenets of such organization."

[Cat Herder]

I thought many Churches sold discrimination as a product....

Yep, I am going to pay for that one....

Eh, I am still bitter about the whole Churches protesting at Military Funerals thing.... You know...the guys dying because of Religious wars and all

[wdmmom]

I thought many Churches sold discrimination as a product....

Yep, I am going to pay for that one....

Eh, I am still bitter about the whole Churches protesting at Military Funerals thing.... You know...the guys dying because of Religious wars and all

I LIKE YOU! ::::::

You always say (or type) the things I think about but never do! ::

[familyschoolcare]

Yes, but I would think we could get in trouble if we were state licensed and said I can't allow you in my daycare because you are not Catholic, drink beer, have premarital sex, say **** on occassion, I could go on and on. What if a potential employee is athiest.....I don't think you can discriminate this way.

you can put those limit on employees for religious purposes that is why every "demand" has a scripture verse to go with it that is what makes it legal

[familyschoolcare]

Eh, I am still bitter about the whole Churches protesting at Military Funerals thing.... You know...the guys dying because of Religious wars and all

yes however, their are more people on the side of stopping them than are on the side of protesting. If you are interested in helping this cause PM letting me know where you live and I will see if I can get you contact info. for helping to stop the people protesting have done it once with my mother we went and stood outside on the sidewalk so that their was no room for protester.

[familyschoolcare]

I have signed a similar employee contract. However, mine was not as detailed just stated employees must live according to biblical principals.

[Cat Herder]

yes however, their are more people on the side of stopping them than are on the side of protesting. If you are interested in helping this cause PM letting me know where you live and I will see if I can get you contact info. for helping to stop the people protesting have done it once with my mother we went and stood outside on the sidewalk so that their was no room for protester.

Thanks.

We are a former Military family...

We do the "Mirror" line....

We have few to no protesters around here any more.

[wdmmom]

Ok guys...I have to laugh here!

Think about this from a logical standpoint:

These people are watching children!

Where do children come from: SEX (we know all the scientific mumbo jumbo)

Now this pre-school is saying you can't have sex if you aren't married, or are gay/lesbian, etc.

Now where do you think some of those children attending are an exact result of 2 people having sex while unmarried???

I'd be willing to bet on it!

Just another case of someone wanting money and not caring how they get it but thinks they have the upper hand on how their employees should behave!

I wouldn't meet ANY of their criteria!!!

I had a child out of wedlock, I was divorced and lived with someone for 3 years before we were married.

I drink every once in awhile, I have watched **** and if I wanna say sh!t or the dreaded "F" word every so often, I'm entitled!

It's called a freedom of speech!

I really think that if this church can find "gray" in the law, someone is going to find the black and white and have an attorney interpret it and this will just be another church blasted on the news! YAY!

Are they worried about the priests behaving badly?! (I know I'm going to hell for that one!)::::

[Crystal]

Are they worried about the priests behaving badly?! (I know I'm going to hell for that one!)

They should be.

[mac60]

It just goes to show you how the different faiths tend to think this or that is morally correct, all the while the majority wouldn't. In my book, what this church daycare has done is very discriminatory to their current/potential employees, whether it is legal or not. In my book it is not morally correct judging people they way they do.

[Kaddidle Care]

They are also going to be paying some serious unemployment percentages. In Iowa it can be as much as eight percent of the TOTAL payroll (IIRC). It's going to be tough to win unemployment claims with a contract like this.

That's my prediction.

Not necessarily. If they are a Non-Profit they don't have to pay into Unemployment Insurance. I work for one - if I get fired or laid off, I get zilch, nada, zip.