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  • littlemommy
    Daycare.com Member
    • May 2011
    • 568

    #16
    Yeah- a camera would be great!! Haha

    When the 2 year old had bite marks, they did not look like they were from my son. I don't think he can open his mouth that wide!

    With the 11 month old that just got bit, all I saw was a picture that his mom sent me on my phone, so I never saw the actual bite. All of the toddlers have the same amount of teeth, so I'd have to look in detail of the spacing.

    I wish there was a quick fix to this, but I know there's not. I just hope it doesn't turn into a chain reaction, where all the kids start biting!

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    • Crystal
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 4002

      #17
      In your OP you say that he didn't cry when bitten. Then you go on to say he screams and cries all day. I am confused.

      I know you want to fix this, and I know you don't want it to continue happening, but you seem to not really have done anything to stop it. It also seems that you really think it is your own son doing it, but also seem to be in denial that it probably is him and you are trying to convince yourself, as well as others, that it must be another child and you just haven't figured out who.

      Have you asked the other kids who is biting them? Two year olds are quite capable of saying who did it.

      If I were you I would find a way to contain the children whenever you must leave the room and I'd limit those times to only when absolutley neccessary. I wouldn't get on the computer or do anything at all that removes your attention from the children for even a moment, except for using the restroom. As for diapering, all children should go with you. You need your privacy when you are using the restroom, but there is no reason they cannot all be there for diapering.

      Antoher thing, it seems that you are blaming the victim here. As if, because he screams and cries, the other children are irritable and that's why the biting occurs. That is so not cool, IMO.

      If you don't get a handle on this, you are quite likely to lose your DCK....parents will only be okay with this for a very limited amount of time.....and when you admittedly are not aware that it even happened until the parent finds the bite mark later, you are likely to lose them sooner, rather than later.

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      • Cat Herder
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 13744

        #18
        I just noticed that Care Courses is offering a training course on this. It is $17 but it is worth 2 hours credit, too. It is called "Biting Hurts".



        It may help a bit and you can pass it on to the parents so it becomes a team effort. It is worth a shot??

        I'd have given anything to know that classes were available online a couple years ago...

        I had to learn the hard way...
        - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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        • Sunshine44
          Running away from home
          • May 2011
          • 278

          #19
          {{hugs}} I've one of my kids was a biter. I do not have any advice, but keep on keeping on. All things shall pass.

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          • CheekyChick
            Daycare.com Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 810

            #20
            If it is your DS, could you take him to the restroom with you? That way, if someone gets bit while you're in the restroom, you can at least say it wasn't your son.

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            • youretooloud
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 1955

              #21
              Originally posted by Crystal
              In your OP you say that he didn't cry when bitten. Then you go on to say he screams and cries all day. I am confused.
              When the victim is a screamer anyway, we tend not to notice when they are crying for a reason. I really would just start carrying the 11 month old as much as possible to keep him off the floor... just for a while.

              I've seen those giant baby playpens. I've never seen one in person, but could you buy one or two sets of those and create a baby space? Or a big kid space? That way, there isn't as much frustration.

              http://www.google.com/products/catal...ed=0CHAQ8wIwAQ This might be too small, especially if it's a big kid space. But, something like this.

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              • youretooloud
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 1955

                #22
                Here is what you need! Heck.. I need one!

                A rotating baby bungee jump.
                Attached Files

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                • littlemommy
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 568

                  #23
                  Originally posted by youretooloud
                  When the victim is a screamer anyway, we tend not to notice when they are crying for a reason. I really would just start carrying the 11 month old as much as possible to keep him off the floor... just for a while.

                  I've seen those giant baby playpens. I've never seen one in person, but could you buy one or two sets of those and create a baby space? Or a big kid space? That way, there isn't as much frustration.

                  http://www.google.com/products/catal...ed=0CHAQ8wIwAQ This might be too small, especially if it's a big kid space. But, something like this.
                  This boy is very fussy and whiney most of the day. It is aggetating to me, so I"m sure it is to the group as well.

                  And yes, I do take my son with me if I leave the room-because I know that he HAS bitten. However, Friday the bite mark happened, and DS was with me. I'm not trying to make excuses for my son, I'm just stating the fact that it happened and he was with me. When he is playing with the other kids, I watch him very closely and can correct him before he does it.

                  Yes, I'm sure the mom is angry that I don't know who did it, but can I have my eyes on every kid at every possible second? No.

                  The victims as well as the other kids are too young to tell me who did it. I've tried asking, and they point at a different kid every time. If I ask "did so and so do it?" They say yes every time. The older kids that I have in care were not here that day, so obviously they can't tell me.

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                  • SilverSabre25
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 7585

                    #24
                    As for the mark being there until 7 PM...my biter boy (who thankfully seems to have stopped, although the bites were always far between) would leave bruises that would last for DAYS, even a week. He almost broke the skin on my daughter's chest...through her shirt! He also bit one of my dcb's on the cheek and left a bruise for a week, and then my daughter on the nose which left scrapes.

                    Yeah...he's vicious. I figured out his trigger though and we eliminated it so all seems to be well.
                    Hee hee! Look, I have a signature!

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                    • littlemommy
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 568

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Catherder
                      I just noticed that Care Courses is offering a training course on this. It is $17 but it is worth 2 hours credit, too. It is called "Biting Hurts".



                      It may help a bit and you can pass it on to the parents so it becomes a team effort. It is worth a shot??

                      I'd have given anything to know that classes were available online a couple years ago...

                      I had to learn the hard way...
                      Thanks Catherder. You are very supportive, as I'm sure you've gone through this a time or two.

                      That link didn't work tho. I'll try googling it.

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                      • Cat Herder
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 13744

                        #26
                        Originally posted by littlemommy
                        Thanks Catherder. You are very supportive, as I'm sure you've gone through this a time or two.

                        That link didn't work tho. I'll try googling it.
                        I fixed it... I type it in by hand after writing it on a post it note... The C was not a capitol letter..

                        I have NO computer skills... I pay for all my kids computer classes, though... That counts, right??::::::

                        I have been through the biting, oh, yes... Mine was politically loaded, too... NEVER keep a child of your spouses employer...just sayin'
                        - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                        • littlemommy
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 568

                          #27
                          Originally posted by SilverSabre25
                          As for the mark being there until 7 PM...my biter boy (who thankfully seems to have stopped, although the bites were always far between) would leave bruises that would last for DAYS, even a week. He almost broke the skin on my daughter's chest...through her shirt! He also bit one of my dcb's on the cheek and left a bruise for a week, and then my daughter on the nose which left scrapes.

                          Yeah...he's vicious. I figured out his trigger though and we eliminated it so all seems to be well.
                          Can I ask what his trigger was?

                          Like I said earlier, the bites only seem to happen here when the other 2 dcb's are here. Has anyone noticed biting be more of a boy thing?

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                          • SilverSabre25
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 7585

                            #28
                            Originally posted by littlemommy
                            Can I ask what his trigger was?

                            Like I said earlier, the bites only seem to happen here when the other 2 dcb's are here. Has anyone noticed biting be more of a boy thing?
                            His trigger was/is chaos. If the room is overwhelming for some reason, he ends up biting. So, when we have a particularly rowdy day, or extra kids who riled everyone up, or everyone is extra fractious and worked up, he's likely to bite.
                            Hee hee! Look, I have a signature!

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                            • littlemommy
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 568

                              #29
                              I think that's my son's problem, but only with boys.

                              I still need to figure out who the other biter is.

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                              • Country Kids
                                Nature Lover
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 5051

                                #30
                                Where was he bitten? The reason I ask is it either wasn't very noticeable so how do you know for sure that it didn't happen after he left. You didn't notice it and the mother didn't notice it till AFTER she had him at home. That is what would worry me, the things that seem to appear after the child leaves my care and then they question me on it. So if it was still there that late, it seems it would have been noticeable upon pick up.
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