Filthy Socks & Poopy Diapers

[MarinaVanessa]

I also sort of have to wonder why your daycare hasn't had a call from child services. I used to watch a little girl regularly (before DC) and the mom had child services called on her and her case worker called me and even came to my home to ask questions about the little girl. She asked things like did I see any odd behavior, what were the mom's interactions like with her when I saw her, did she come clean and wearing clean clothing, did she seem hungry, etc. I'm wondering then if this isn't done everywhere.

[dEHmom]

I also sort of have to wonder why your daycare hasn't had a call from child services. I used to watch a little girl regularly (before DC) and the mom had child services called on her and her case worker called me and even came to my home to ask questions about the little girl. She asked things like did I see any odd behavior, what were the mom's interactions like with her when I saw her, did she come clean and wearing clean clothing, did she seem hungry, etc. I'm wondering then if this isn't done everywhere.

i can see this happening 6 months from now. or depending on what the claim was opened for. If its physical abuse, sexual abuse, etc.

[wdmmom]

She is thru the state they will pay me most of the money she will pay a portion but the state cant decide what that is until she gets paperwork in. Her last extention is coming up next week and she intends on waiting until the last day.

I wouldn't really have less stress because then I would definatley have NO way to pay all my bills. I am a single mom this is my only income. They have been here for months but recently left due to an injury with DCM and is now back but the certificate expired so she is renewing and taking her time. The CC&R office manager basically talked me into taking them and told me she will be approved once they subitt the last form but did say I didnt have to rovide care. I need an income and the state only pays once a month so I couldnt risk waiting and definatley having nothing so I opted to take this risk and atleast have a hope of getting paid. This DCM has 2 kids. They are my ONLY full time kids so I need the money until more come along.

Are you sure this family will even qualify for subsidy? If not, she's in several hundred dollars to you right off the bat. Not a good idea.

I'd be making her pay until the state approves or denies her. If they approve her, give her back the money, if they deny, at least you have been paid!

I would specifically tell DCM "THESE ARE MY HOURS >>> TO<<<) IF YOU NO LONGER FEEL YOU CAN ACCOMMODATE A PICK UP TIME AT OR BEFORE 4PM, I HAVE NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE BUT TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A 2 WEEK NOTICE. I HOPE YOU CAN FIND ANOTHER PROVIDER THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE YOUR FAMILIES SCHEDULE AND NEEDS.

ALSO...is the state really willing to pay 60-66 hours of childcare for 2 children each week?! That's insane!

And...STOP WORKING WEEKENDS! She can find a babysitter for that!

[Crystal]

I feel badly for you, really I do, but I have to say you cannot be taken advantage of if you don't allow it, and you ARE allowing it.

Put your foot down. She is picking up late without so much as an apology because YOU are allowing it and SHE KNOWS you aren't going to stop her.

Tell her today, this is it, one more late pick up and services will be terminated effective immediatley. Then enforce it.

[nannyde]

She is thru the state they will pay me most of the money she will pay a portion but the state cant decide what that is until she gets paperwork in. Her last extention is coming up next week and she intends on waiting until the last day.

I wouldn't really have less stress because then I would definatley have NO way to pay all my bills. I am a single mom this is my only income. They have been here for months but recently left due to an injury with DCM and is now back but the certificate expired so she is renewing and taking her time. The CC&R office manager basically talked me into taking them and told me she will be approved once they subitt the last form but did say I didnt have to rovide care. I need an income and the state only pays once a month so I couldnt risk waiting and definatley having nothing so I opted to take this risk and atleast have a hope of getting paid. This DCM has 2 kids. They are my ONLY full time kids so I need the money until more come along.

This doesn't sound good at all. NEVER take the word of a worker. You HAVE to have it in writing.

You could easily get taken on this. The Mom has NOTHING to loose.

It doesn't make sense that the Dad can't care for the kids. Why is the State paying for child care when the Dad is home... disability or not. It's discriminatory to HIM to not allow him to care for his own children WITH his diability.

Is this funding based on their child protective case??????

[SandeeAR]

To respond to some questions here.

There is a Father, he lives with them but can't watch the kids due to a disability issue with his hands.

This was in post #10.

[PitterPatter]

Has she been paying her "portion" while waiting on the state? I understand not being able to pay bills, been there, done that too. But what are you paying the bills with now? The state isn't paying you now. I would be doing EVERY thing I could to fill her spots NOW.

IF she isn't paying her "portion" now, you will never see the back pay, even if she files the paperwork and the state starts paying.

I hope I'm wrong, but you are being taken for a ride by this lady.

We dont know what her portion will be so I cant charge her anything. I am paid at the beginning of every month for all of the kids the month before in 1 lump sum minus their little portions. I am living on last months income and money I had saved up for vaca.

I will def take her to court if she dogs me on this. Guarentee that! I am trying to fill spots but everyone is usually placed for the summer by this time.

[SandeeAR]

We dont know what her portion will be so I cant charge her anything. I am paid at the beginning of every month for all of the kids the month before in 1 lump sum minus their little portions. I am living on last months income and money I had saved up for vaca.

I will def take her to court if she dogs me on this. Guarentee that! I am trying to fill spots but everyone is usually placed for the summer by this time.

Charge her your regular rate and refund any difference. I just think you are making a Major mistake taking her word for it. I really think you are getting taken for a ride. Hate to see that happen to anyone.

She has nothing to lose. You are giving her FREE daycare.

[PitterPatter]

Okay I understand that she has an extension and I don't know how it all works in your state so does that mean that for sure they will back-pay all of the time that you've been watching the kids? I know that here in my area the subsidy program back-pays but starting only from the day that their paperwork is turned in and processed. You watch the kiddos that month and turn in the hours at the beginning of the following month you don't see payment for another month later. So in essence you're getting paid for that current month two months later. The way I do it is that I need the letter in my hand that says that they are FOR SURE getting assistance and what their family fee will be and they still pay for DC until I get that check in my hand, then I reimburse the families. That way at least I know that I get paid for sure. I don't know if you can do that where you are, not everyone allows this, but if you can you may want to think about doing this.

Let me ask you this: What will happen if she doesn't turn in her paperwork on time?

The CC&R said they will back date the certificate to cover from the day she 1st applied and I will be paid for every day. IF she doesnt turn the paperwork in then I will go after her in court and try to prevernt her from being permitted daycare service so she can't do it again. They probably do that themselves at the office but I will make sure.

[PitterPatter]

I'd even go so far as to do this: next time they arrive with filthy bodies and filthy clothes and poopy diapers: I'd give them a bath!! After bath I'd wash their clothes. Perfectly clean diaper before DCP's arrive. "I have bathed your children and washed their clothes. They are in fresh diapers. If these children do not look exactly like this tomorrow morning, I will not accept them into care. I am a required reporter of abuse and neglect. The condition your children arrive to school in has made me suspect neglect. Next time these children arrive dirty, in dried on poopy diapers or without 100% of the requested items, I will report you to DCF.".
I know this scenario is difficult. Maybe a friend can help you watch the other DCK you have while you bathe these kids and wash their clothes. Its NOT your responsibility to do it, BUT it seems like the dummie parents need a visual aid to see HOW THEIR KIDS ARE EXPECTED TO LOOK! Yes, its a threat. They need a serious wake up call.

Sorry, Pitter, this topic makes my blood BOIL. Not directed at you, but at the low lifes you have to deal with.

I know and I understand I am mad too thats why I posted. If I drop them they could go to a provider that doesnt care and they would never be taught better. I know of a provider that just sat her kids on a couch all day. At least here they get cleaned up, they get taught to wash their hands and such.

I keep telling myself when I get other kids I will be stern and demand she clean them up and if she pulls them (she will immediatley I know it) then so be it but what about the kids then. Its hard to decide.

[MarinaVanessa]

We dont know what her portion will be so I cant charge her anything. I am paid at the beginning of every month for all of the kids the month before in 1 lump sum minus their little portions. I am living on last months income and money I had saved up for vaca.

I will def take her to court if she dogs me on this. Guarentee that! I am trying to fill spots but everyone is usually placed for the summer by this time.

Hon, even if they have most of their DC paid for it's better to start by having them pay for their chil care in full until you get that first check. Once you get your payment and cash it you can reimburse them minus their family fee. You're actually in a worse spot now vs not having a client. They're getting free childcare and you'll have to chase your money if she doesn't follow through with what she needs to do. But good luck to you, hopefully you get more children soon.

[Meeko]

The CC&R said they will back date the certificate to cover from the day she 1st applied and I will be paid for every day. IF she doesnt turn the paperwork in then I will go after her in court and try to prevernt her from being permitted daycare service so she can't do it again. They probably do that themselves at the office but I will make sure.

I am a bit confused. Here...CCRR is not the state. State welfare benefits are from the Dept of Workforce Services. CCRR here had a small program for people LOOKING for work. But if the mom is working, she should be going through DWS???

[PitterPatter]

I am a bit confused. Here...CCRR is not the state. State welfare benefits are from the Dept of Workforce Services. CCRR here had a small program for people LOOKING for work. But if the mom is working, she should be going through DWS???

No here CCRR is where she gets the certificate for childcare. She has to file all the papers with them. They are working with welfare but everything is done through their office for childcare. I hand them the sign in sheets and they do whatever and I get a direct deposit in my bank from the State treasury a week or so later.

I called the office again today because dcm was done at 3:00 and I know for a fact she has the papers with her her DH told me so. I called the office and still nothing! I talked with our manager and she said she is sorry she suggested that I could take them and be back dated because it is a simple paper to turn in but at this point dcm is obviously just slacking and doesnt care to get them in. STILL she is worried about the large bill the parent will have to be responisble for if she doesnt get it in in time. I asked if they would help me collect from her she said they could not that I have to go after her on my own and to make sure she signs in and out daily as evidence that her kids were in my care. I already knew that so I said I may have to take her to court then. She suggested I tell her, that's it no more, and put a stop to it until the papers are turned in. She said she has seen this happen before.

I asked what happens if she lets it lapse. She said she can just reapply BS! These parents shouldnt be allowed to do that until all debts owed are paid! What is wrong with this system. All I get from her is "we are here to help" yeah the wrong guy! So I am telling her tomorrow at drop off she may not bring the kids at all this weekend and if the paper is not turned in by Friday afternoon she may not bring the kids back on Monday either!

My backbone is getting stronger or maybe I am just fed up with the BS of lazy parents! Thanks ladies!

[Meeko]

No here CCRR is where she gets the certificate for childcare. She has to file all the papers with them. They are working with welfare but everything is done through their office for childcare. I hand them the sign in sheets and they do whatever and I get a direct deposit in my bank from the State treasury a week or so later.

I called the office again today because dcm was done at 3:00 and I know for a fact she has the papers with her her DH told me so. I called the office and still nothing! I talked with our manager and she said she is sorry she suggested that I could take them and be back dated because it is a simple paper to turn in but at this point dcm is obviously just slacking and doesnt care to get them in. STILL she is worried about the large bill the parent will have to be responisble for if she doesnt get it in in time. I asked if they would help me collect from her she said they could not that I have to go after her on my own and to make sure she signs in and out daily as evidence that her kids were in my care. I already knew that so I said I may have to take her to court then. She suggested I tell her, that's it no more, and put a stop to it until the papers are turned in. She said she has seen this happen before.

I asked what happens if she lets it lapse. She said she can just reapply BS! These parents shouldnt be allowed to do that until all debts owed are paid! What is wrong with this system. All I get from her is "we are here to help" yeah the wrong guy! So I am telling her tomorrow at drop off she may not bring the kids at all this weekend and if the paper is not turned in by Friday afternoon she may not bring the kids back on Monday either!

My backbone is getting stronger or maybe I am just fed up with the BS of lazy parents! Thanks ladies!

I think you need a "Pitter Patter Posse" ......some of us need to get over there and stand beside you while you tell this lazy woman off!! ::::

Good luck...hope it works out!