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  • nannyde
    All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
    • Mar 2010
    • 7320

    #46
    Originally posted by Catherder
    No, in my experience they drop the kid in their room and hang out by the directors desk to gossip if they hang out at all. Things like "Johnny's Mom drives an escalade and can't even dress her kids right, I saw that shirt at walmart when I was buying dog food. You know where she gets her money, don't you?". I DO NOT miss that.

    Occasionally you will see one or two who will peek into their child's room without being seen from the hallway, but that typically only follows a bite or scratch on their child since the provider cannot legally tell which kid did what.

    Once they feel they have identified the kid, they set in on pointing out/blowing out of proportion everything that kid does in their presence as they now view him/her as "their child's nemesis".

    In the absolute worst cases of this Mothers came to blows in the parking lot and police had to be called. Ridiculous...even the toddlers were looking embarrassed by their behavior.
    Oh yeah... NOT counting the front desk. THAT'S chocked full of parents lingering without their kids. Not too many there with their kids though.

    Why do you think that it's so important for home care but doesn't really happen in Centers?
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    • Blackcat31
      • Oct 2010
      • 36124

      #47
      [QUOTE=nannyde;123768]Oh yeah... NOT counting the front desk. THAT'S chocked full of parents lingering without their kids. Not too many there with their kids though.

      Why do you think that it's so important for home care but doesn't really happen in Centers?[/QUOTE]

      My opinion of why this happens is the general attitude (of parents) towards a home provider vs a center provider. A center is viewed as a business much more often than a home provider is. I think parents go into a center knowing full well that they are buying a service whereas they seek out a home childcare provider as hired help...kwim? That is my PO in that regard.

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      • Country Kids
        Nature Lover
        • Mar 2011
        • 5051

        #48
        I think that it is because in the home you have ONE person watching the children usually and you are relying on that one person to relay all information to you. That one person may perposely not tell you something because they are afraid of losing you, license, etc.

        In a center there are many eyes and if there is something wrong someone is bound to tell you and you can question different people to see what the truth is. You are more likely to be welcomed to stay and observe children in a center than a home.

        I know when my child went to a center I was welcomed anytime to come and watch her. They even had two way mirrors in the classroom so I could come, watch and not disturb her if I didn't want to go in. My shift ended during naptime and I was always welcomed to come in and pick her up. They accomodated to the parents not the center. I never felt unwelcomed there at all.

        I think if I wasn't allowed to come into the place where my child was all day long I would be leary wondering what was going on. I do believe in family style childcare, everyone at ease with everyone else. I have a couple sets of cousins, parents that work with each other, and some that are just friends. Basically everyone knew each other before even starting here.
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        Never look back on regrets
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        • Country Kids
          Nature Lover
          • Mar 2011
          • 5051

          #49
          [QUOTE=Blackcat31;123774]
          Originally posted by nannyde
          Oh yeah... NOT counting the front desk. THAT'S chocked full of parents lingering without their kids. Not too many there with their kids though.

          Why do you think that it's so important for home care but doesn't really happen in Centers?[/QUOTE]

          My opinion of why this happens is the general attitude (of parents) towards a home provider vs a center provider. A center is viewed as a business much more often than a home provider is. I think parents go into a center knowing full well that they are buying a service whereas they seek out a home childcare provider as hired help...kwim? That is my PO in that regard.
          I agree with this 100% and also with what I posted above. Please remember most of the time parents will refer to us a the babysitter.
          Each day is a fresh start
          Never look back on regrets
          Live life to the fullest
          We only get one shot at this!!

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          • nannyde
            All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
            • Mar 2010
            • 7320

            #50
            Originally posted by Country Kids
            I think that it is because in the home you have ONE person watching the children usually and you are relying on that one person to relay all information to you. That one person may perposely not tell you something because they are afraid of losing you, license, etc.

            In a center there are many eyes and if there is something wrong someone is bound to tell you and you can question different people to see what the truth is. You are more likely to be welcomed to stay and observe children in a center than a home.

            I know when my child went to a center I was welcomed anytime to come and watch her. They even had two way mirrors in the classroom so I could come, watch and not disturb her if I didn't want to go in. My shift ended during naptime and I was always welcomed to come in and pick her up. They accomodated to the parents not the center. I never felt unwelcomed there at all.

            I think if I wasn't allowed to come into the place where my child was all day long I would be leary wondering what was going on. I do believe in family style childcare, everyone at ease with everyone else. I have a couple sets of cousins, parents that work with each other, and some that are just friends. Basically everyone knew each other before even starting here.
            There is definitely safety in numbers. Children are definitely safer in Centers for serious intentional injury or death. Children are safer at any form of child care than they are with their parents or in a car.

            Basically everyone knew each other before even starting here I do the opposite. I don't want clients that know each other or are relatives of me or each other. For me, it works best to have a singular relationship with everyone. The few times I have bent that rule it hasn't worked out.

            No neighbors
            No relatives
            No friends
            No friends of dc parents
            No relatives of dc parents
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            • nannyde
              All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
              • Mar 2010
              • 7320

              #51
              [QUOTE=Country Kids;123780][QUOTE=Blackcat31;123774]

              I agree with this 100% and also with what I posted above. Please remember most of the time parents will refer to us a the babysitter.[/QUOTE]

              I AM the babysitter. They all refer to me as the babysitter because that's what I do. I've never wanted to be a professional child care provider.
              http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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              • Michelle
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 1932

                #52
                Our notification of parents rights states that,
                As a parent/authorized representative, you will have the right to:
                !. Enter and inspect the facility child care home without advance notice whenever children are in care

                we have never had a relative do this but we had some parents come in for a spot visit. I totally encourage them. I want them to know that I am taking very good care of their kids and my house is clean and safe.

                The majority of the moms I have now I would trust with my own child.
                Last year I took them to v.b.s. and they were suppose to dress up from another country and I wanted to do Nigeria. I asked one mom if she could braid my daughters hair and if she had any clothes from her country I could borrow She said she would make my daughter a formal Nigerian dress and braid my daughters very long hair! I just love these moms!!!
                How on earth could I say "no, don't feed your baby in my home?"
                I would not take a family that I am not comfortable with.
                I have never had a bf mom stay longer than 20 minutes.

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                • cheerfuldom
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 7413

                  #53
                  I am glad some of you have had good experiences with BFing moms coming during the day. I have not and at this point, I do the rules based on what is best for me and group as a whole. Baby will be just fine on a bottle during the day and mom can pump. I have pumped while working outside of the home and two of my current moms do it, its not impossible. I don't allow "come in and hang out" because most of the time it involves mom wanting to socialize while kid is ignored or sniffing over my shoulder and criticizing everything I do, like I don't know how to change a diaper after the thousands I have changed by now. Parents can pop in whenever they want but that doesn't mean they can stay for a long time and do whatever they want.

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                  • Blackcat31
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 36124

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Michelle
                    Our notification of parents rights states that,
                    As a parent/authorized representative, you will have the right to:
                    !. Enter and inspect the facility child care home without advance notice whenever children are in care

                    we have never had a relative do this but we had some parents come in for a spot visit. I totally encourage them. I want them to know that I am taking very good care of their kids and my house is clean and safe.

                    The majority of the moms I have now I would trust with my own child.
                    Last year I took them to v.b.s. and they were suppose to dress up from another country and I wanted to do Nigeria. I asked one mom if she could braid my daughters hair and if she had any clothes from her country I could borrow She said she would make my daughter a formal Nigerian dress and braid my daughters very long hair! I just love these moms!!!
                    How on earth could I say "no, don't feed your baby in my home?"
                    I would not take a family that I am not comfortable with.
                    I have never had a bf mom stay longer than 20 minutes.
                    Michelle~ I think judging from previous posts in this thread, you are definitely in the minority BUT, it is awesome that you have found a market and a way to run your business the way you do because I think it sounds fabulous! I am completely and unequivicably 100% jealous that you have managed to make such close relationships with your families and never feel as though they are taking advantage of you. (I am NOT being snarky...I seriously mean this.)

                    However, most of us (atleast I do)feel as though once it doesn't work out or we have a bad experience, we don't wish to open up that can of worms again. Which is understandable since we need to do what works best for a group. I wish I could have a more personal relationship with the families I serve but I am not fortunate enough to have families like you have that are willing to be as respectful and understanding. Oh, don't get me wrong, I have had a few come my way that have made working in this field an absolutely wonderful experience but they are sadly far and few between.

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                    • Country Kids
                      Nature Lover
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 5051

                      #55
                      Originally posted by nannyde
                      There is definitely safety in numbers. Children are definitely safer in Centers for serious intentional injury or death. Children are safer at any form of child care than they are with their parents or in a car.

                      Basically everyone knew each other before even starting here I do the opposite. I don't want clients that know each other or are relatives of me or each other. For me, it works best to have a singular relationship with everyone. The few times I have bent that rule it hasn't worked out.

                      No neighbors
                      No relatives
                      No friends
                      No friends of dc parents
                      No relatives of dc parents
                      I'm not being sarcastic by any means but how do you get your clients? Over the 15 years I have done this all mine have been by word of mouth. I even had some referells by people that never came here but knew by the reputation and services I offer that they were comfortable giving me a high recommendation to people.

                      Never though do I do care for my own personal family or friends. Big no, no there!

                      How would you even tell someone that you wouldn't except a child because they already have a relative or friend that already goes there. I can't imagine telling someone that. My fear is losing clients because of this. Also, what would you do if you didn't know they were friends till after they started? Actually that is what happened to me-I started two of mine and then found out two of the dads worked together and another was good friends of one of the dads. Right there are three families that knew each other but I didn't know till after they came.
                      Each day is a fresh start
                      Never look back on regrets
                      Live life to the fullest
                      We only get one shot at this!!

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                      • Country Kids
                        Nature Lover
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 5051

                        #56
                        [QUOTE=nannyde;123785][QUOTE=Country Kids;123780]
                        Originally posted by Blackcat31

                        I agree with this 100% and also with what I posted above. Please remember most of the time parents will refer to us a the babysitter.[/QUOTE]

                        I AM the babysitter. They all refer to me as the babysitter because that's what I do. I've never wanted to be a professional child care provider.

                        Did you by any chance read the thread that was going on while you were gone? It was all about being a babysitter or a childcare provider!
                        Each day is a fresh start
                        Never look back on regrets
                        Live life to the fullest
                        We only get one shot at this!!

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                        • nannyde
                          All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 7320

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Country Kids
                          I'm not being sarcastic by any means but how do you get your clients? Over the 15 years I have done this all mine have been by word of mouth. I even had some referells by people that never came here but knew by the reputation and services I offer that they were comfortable giving me a high recommendation to people.

                          Never though do I do care for my own personal family or friends. Big no, no there!

                          How would you even tell someone that you wouldn't except a child because they already have a relative or friend that already goes there. I can't imagine telling someone that. My fear is losing clients because of this. Also, what would you do if you didn't know they were friends till after they started? Actually that is what happened to me-I started two of mine and then found out two of the dads worked together and another was good friends of one of the dads. Right there are three families that knew each other but I didn't know till after they came.
                          I had a situation once where I worked for two ladies and found out that they knew each other. One Mom saw the other Moms kid on a walk. Find out they once were BFF's and one was the maid of honor at the others wedding years before. They broke up their bff's over a man.

                          They rekindled their friendship for a few months and then when it went sour again one gave notice and left.

                          None of it had anything to do with me. It was good while it was good but not so good when it wasn't.

                          I get my kids by advertising. My parents are here for many years so their reference is very valued by parents considering placing their kid here. I also have pictures online on my website and you can see the kids through the years here from birth to Kindy. That is a SUPER seller for the day care.

                          I've tried taking friends and it doesn't work out. It's SO risky if the incoming parent doesn't work out especially if the parents are bff's. They want their kids raised in the same house so there is a lot of value to making it work. It's a huge risk of income loss to loose both.

                          I've had to term a bff and it was very very difficult. I won't do it again.
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