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  • dEHmom
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 2355

    #16
    Originally posted by countrymom
    dear unregistered,
    please read the post before you apply. The op said the child had 1 bite not several. Just like misquitos, you never know where they can pop up. Also, these children were old enough to be outside by themselves, i'm glad for people like you who hoover over children all day and night, they make our society so much better (do you see my sacrasm) you didn't then read the part that the mom was a flake either and that she was just looking for cheap care, she could have cared less. If she cared about the situation she would have tried to work it out with the provider. Also, its funny how you can add your 2 cents to a post but are to chicken to register and post your name.
    hallelujah !!!!!!!!

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    • jen
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 1832

      #17
      Send her a certified letter stating payment is due by whatever date and then you will begin court proceedings.

      PS: The only way to get rid of the trolls is to INGORE them. Much like a 2 year old whose having a tantrum.

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      • DaycareMomma
        Daycare.com Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 218

        #18
        Does anyone know exactly the guidelines I have to follow before I can file court papers? I live in Minnesota by the way.

        Last week I told her that her money was to be to me by June 15th and here we are on June 15th and I've received NOTHING. So I am going to get a letter written up that will be sent certified mail to her.

        Does anyone have a template that I could borrow? I want it to be very stern and black and white so she doesn't mix anything up.

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        • SandeeAR
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 1192

          #19
          Originally posted by HorseLovinMom
          Does anyone know exactly the guidelines I have to follow before I can file court papers? I live in Minnesota by the way.

          Last week I told her that her money was to be to me by June 15th and here we are on June 15th and I've received NOTHING. So I am going to get a letter written up that will be sent certified mail to her.

          Does anyone have a template that I could borrow? I want it to be very stern and black and white so she doesn't mix anything up.
          Here is the Minnesota Small Claims info.

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          • Unregistered

            #20
            so not a troll....

            and maybe someday I will register....

            But.

            I bet this mom has photos of the child covered in bites that she is quitting her job to stay home with. I bet she is worried about disease. I bet she feels awful that she let her child be in that situation for even one day. I bet the best provider in the world would have a hard time making her feel comfortable now, and that she would rather work but just can't risk it.

            I also feel that taking her to small claims court is petty, and trying to ruin her reputation is not good karma.

            Yes, I read the original post. One bite that was already bleeding, and she hurried all the kids in....after she burped and changed this infant? in full view of all the children outside? And did she carry the infant with her to do this?

            This situation was not a good fit for parent or provider. My honest, unregistered, opinion is that she should let it go and that she missed opportunities to be up front with this parent about the level of care, need for bug spray (not good for kids or infants), potential for the kids to be outside alone while she cared for the infant inside and maybe other things.

            She missed an opportunity to re-evaluate the mother's comfort level with care when mom kept her kids home the first time. She could have avoided court, and she is enjoying bashing this mom too much. I don't like it.

            Many of us have quit our jobs to be home with our kids. How many of us did it because we simply couldn't find care we were pleased or comfortable with? Once you have had a bad experience with a childcare provider, how do your expectations change? How many days do you leave your child in care that you are uncomfortable with? Why does providing bad care deserve two weeks free pay?

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            • MarinaVanessa
              Family Childcare Home
              • Jan 2010
              • 7211

              #21
              Here's a sample that I have (I changed it to fit your needs better, feel free to change it):

              Your Name
              Address
              City, State Zip Code
              Date

              Parent's Name
              Address
              City, State Zip Code

              Dear _________,
              I am writing in regard to the amount you owe me for breach of contract by not properly giving me a two-weeks notice and for non-payment of that time. On [date] you notified me that the children [child A] and [child B] would not longer be coming to me for child care. I reminded you that you are required to give a proper two-week notice and that payment is required for that time regardless of whether the children attend childcare. I gave you until June 16, 2011 to make good on your payment and as of this date you have not.

              As a final reminder I would like to notify you that as stated in our contract to which you signed and agreed to follow it states:

              "Two full weeks of advanced notice are required in writing to drop your child from the daycare facility. Payment for the two weeks is required regardless of whether or not your child attends during that time.[this is my policy so you would type in whatever your policy says]"

              "There is a $5.00 per day late payment fee if tuition is not paid on the day that your payment is due.."

              "Attempts to collect monies owed, if not successfully collected, will be sent to court and/or reported to collections should it be necessary. The parent/guardian will also be responsible for any fees and costs incurred during this process including ,but not limited to, court, attorney and collection agency fees."

              According to my records, the fees that are owed are:
              Two-week termination period June 1, 2011 through June 15, 2011 $[amount]
              Late payment fees for the period of May 30,2011 to June 15, 2011 $[amount]

              The balance due is $[amount]. This amount does not include late fees after June 15, 2011. {optional: I am willing to waive the late fees if the balance of $[amount] is paid by [date]. If this balance is not paid by the specified date a small claims suit will be filed against you for the amount due plus my costs. Your account will also be reported to ProviderWatch, a national childcare credit reporting agency catered for childcare providers to run checks on clients. ProviderWatch.com 866-267-3691


              Please contact me immediately so that we may resolve this matter.


              Sincerely,
              Signature
              Your Name
              Phone Number

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              • Cat Herder
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 13744

                #22
                This sounds like a couple posts from the "taxes" forum (although misplaced) from an unregistered user on 6-8-11. The thread is entitled "Outside regulations".

                "I have a question along the same lines. I have a 3 year old and a 4 year old at a day care that I have had nothing but issues with. Both my kids came home with bleeding bug bites all over their heads.. the kids told me that they were outside all day.. my 3 year old ran out of the house and I didn't realize it and I asked her why she said she doesn't need to ask at "Daniell's" I brought this up to her and she was very snotty and said I don't have to be outside with children over 2 I watch them out my window... BTW yard is notfenced in... "

                "thanks. She is licensed and that is why we have to pay her for 36 hrs of babysitting even though we only have her babysit for 12 hrs... because she is licensed we have to pay a minimum of 144 a week regardless of how many hrs we take the kids unless it goes over the 36 hrs then it is at a rate of 2 dollars a kid per hour."


                Have you seen them Horselovinmom??
                - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                • MarinaVanessa
                  Family Childcare Home
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 7211

                  #23
                  Gets her popcorn.

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                  • Live and Learn
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 956

                    #24
                    Wow, Cat Herder!
                    You are quite the sleuth.

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                    • Cat Herder
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 13744

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Live and Learn
                      Wow, Cat Herder!
                      You are quite the sleuth.
                      Nah, I am just the one who answered her a couple times.....so I remembered her.
                      - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                      • Mike Lassiter
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 93

                        #26
                        Unregistered postings that I read on here mostly appear to be big talking people that like to belittle those who post that registered. It takes a lot of balls to talk about people here that are sharing with each other when you can hide behind unregistered guest. I and others than have registered here consider unregistered guest to be unregistered pest. You want to engage us with your toughts and ideas but it seems you need to hide to be brave enought to do it. You know the saying about opinions and a$$holes I imagine.

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                        • dEHmom
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 2355

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered
                          and maybe someday I will register....

                          But.

                          I bet this mom has photos of the child covered in bites that she is quitting her job to stay home with. I bet she is worried about disease. I bet she feels awful that she let her child be in that situation for even one day. I bet the best provider in the world would have a hard time making her feel comfortable now, and that she would rather work but just can't risk it.

                          I also feel that taking her to small claims court is petty, and trying to ruin her reputation is not good karma.

                          Yes, I read the original post. One bite that was already bleeding, and she hurried all the kids in....after she burped and changed this infant? in full view of all the children outside? And did she carry the infant with her to do this?

                          This situation was not a good fit for parent or provider. My honest, unregistered, opinion is that she should let it go and that she missed opportunities to be up front with this parent about the level of care, need for bug spray (not good for kids or infants), potential for the kids to be outside alone while she cared for the infant inside and maybe other things.

                          She missed an opportunity to re-evaluate the mother's comfort level with care when mom kept her kids home the first time. She could have avoided court, and she is enjoying bashing this mom too much. I don't like it.

                          Many of us have quit our jobs to be home with our kids. How many of us did it because we simply couldn't find care we were pleased or comfortable with? Once you have had a bad experience with a childcare provider, how do your expectations change? How many days do you leave your child in care that you are uncomfortable with? Why does providing bad care deserve two weeks free pay?
                          Truth is, we can't assume that. We can only respond to the information we are given.

                          Many moms would MUCH MUCH MUCH rather to stay home with their child. Some would MUCH MUCH MUCH rather just not work. If their dh is saying you have to go to work, that type of mom might rather find a way OUT of having to work.
                          Some moms are ridiculously over protective. You cannot, even if your child is sitting on your lap, avoid every single bug bite. unless you are hovering above your child, or place them in a bubble, there is no way to see 100% or 360 degrees of their body. If you're looking them in the face, can you see a bug biting the back of their leg? NO.

                          We ALL have to remember that when someone posts on here, we are receiving THEIR version of a story. we are receiving the information they provide, their opinion of what went on, their perception of the event. When someone tells you a story, and you turn around and tell someone else, it's not identical to the original version. I believe there is a game called telephone that proves this very thing.

                          Stop bashing us for providing OUR OPINION of what happened based on what the original poster gave for info. If the original poster tells us the mom was beating her kids right in front of her, well we can only offer our advice, opinions or concerns on that information.
                          Last edited by dEHmom; 06-16-2011, 05:14 AM.

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                          • DaycareMomma
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 218

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Catherder
                            This sounds like a couple posts from the "taxes" forum (although misplaced) from an unregistered user on 6-8-11. The thread is entitled "Outside regulations".

                            "I have a question along the same lines. I have a 3 year old and a 4 year old at a day care that I have had nothing but issues with. Both my kids came home with bleeding bug bites all over their heads.. the kids told me that they were outside all day.. my 3 year old ran out of the house and I didn't realize it and I asked her why she said she doesn't need to ask at "Daniell's" I brought this up to her and she was very snotty and said I don't have to be outside with children over 2 I watch them out my window... BTW yard is notfenced in... "

                            "thanks. She is licensed and that is why we have to pay her for 36 hrs of babysitting even though we only have her babysit for 12 hrs... because she is licensed we have to pay a minimum of 144 a week regardless of how many hrs we take the kids unless it goes over the 36 hrs then it is at a rate of 2 dollars a kid per hour."


                            Have you seen them Horselovinmom??

                            Sounds a lot like the situation I'm going through. The only difference is my backyard is 98% fenced in. The only open spots is along my house, where the kids are not allowed to play and right by my back door.

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                            • DaycareMomma
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 218

                              #29
                              I am not bashing this mom, I thought she was very nice. I just don't agree with parents that don't follow contracts. I also wish she would have come to me at the first sign of a problem. I'm a very easy going person and not hard to talk to.

                              I agree that daycares and parents don't always mix, but communication is #1.

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                              • Sugar Magnolia
                                Blossoms Blooming
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 2647

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Mike Lassiter
                                Unregistered postings that I read on here mostly appear to be big talking people that like to belittle those who post that registered. It takes a lot of balls to talk about people here that are sharing with each other when you can hide behind unregistered guest. I and others than have registered here consider unregistered guest to be unregistered pest. You want to engage us with your toughts and ideas but it seems you need to hide to be brave enought to do it. You know the saying about opinions and a$$holes I imagine.
                                I like you Mike!

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