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  • Cat Herder
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 13744

    #16
    Passive Aggressive ::::

    At least now you know how to give her her term notice if you get to that point. Tuck in bag, then hand it to her with a big grin as you shut the door. :::: No, not really...... There has to be at least one adult in this relationship.

    I don't allow any of that in their bed anyway, so it can be done. I promise.

    Try the "full belly, box fan and white noise" trick.

    Outdoor water play is always a sure fire deep sleep inducer as well....all that splashing and sunshine works every time.
    - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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    • lil angels
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 643

      #17
      Get an add in the paper and hang up as many fliers as you can and get another kid or 2 and get rid of the situation. WOW Lets make everyone miserable so that we don't have to be around our child at night. :confused:

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      • momma4many
        Daycare.com Member
        • May 2011
        • 80

        #18
        Originally posted by Catherder
        Passive Aggressive ::::

        At least now you know how to give her her term notice if you get to that point. Tuck in bag, then hand it to her with a big grin as you shut the door. :::: No, not really...... There has to be at least one adult in this relationship.

        I don't allow any of that in their bed anyway, so it can be done. I promise.

        Try the "full belly, box fan and white noise" trick.

        Outdoor water play is always a sure fire deep sleep inducer as well....all that splashing and sunshine works every time.
        Ha! Good idea about the term notice!
        I was thinking that about her nap anyway, that she should not have that in her bed w/ her, so this is probably a good thing. I don't know why I get so upset about these people! I just love dcg, but they drive me nuts! I sometimes think they do this passive agressive/always an issue crap b/c it gives them the illusion of having "control" over me and they don't feel as bad about leaving her here for 11 hours a day. Maybe I'm way off, but for some reason it makes sense LOL!!

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        • nannyde
          All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
          • Mar 2010
          • 7320

          #19
          Originally posted by Catherder
          I agree with most of what you said, Tylenol builds up to toxic levels pretty quickly in the liver and the damage is irreversible. I do, however, give Motrin for TRUE painful teething from time to time. I was feeling too sympathetic to teething today, I guess to have missed the "Tylenol EVERY DAY" part....

          I actually gave motrin to a 14 month old today for teething. First time in a long while. He has a molar coming in and the gum is swollen, red, hot and miserable. There is even a bit of ulceration in it.

          He keeps shoving two fingers into the back of his throat and biting as hard as he can, it keeps bleeding and I am afraid of infection/cross infection if he does not get a bit of relief for the next couple days. Not to mention he has triggered his gag reflex a couple times and was dry heaving.

          I do look in their mouth myself to confirm when I suspect it is ONLY teething since I already caught parent diagnosed "Teething" twice this year I rarely get sick, but the "bugs" seem to be getting stronger (or me weaker, you knows :

          Not every kid gets this bad with teething, but every now and again one really has a bad time with it. Mom was on a end of year field trip with big brother today or I probably would have sent him home. "Big Brother" earned Honor Roll and wanted his Mom to himself for the day, I just did not have the heart to call

          Mom is taking DCB to the dentist in the AM.
          I'm not saying there aren't some situations where a child would need advil or tylenol for teething pain. I'm just saying I have never had to give it to them. I would rather "I" give it to them here though then be told they have had it at home. The fact that this medicine masks fevers has to be weighed into its value.

          Tylenol and Advil for teething is the gateway for most of the illness brought into child care for the birth to two crowd.
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          • momma4many
            Daycare.com Member
            • May 2011
            • 80

            #20
            Originally posted by nannyde
            What you have are parents who want their child to go to bed as easy as possible and as early as possible.

            BINGO! That's exactly what dcd said yesterday, although today mom was mad that she didn't nap well and was fussy when she picked her up They want her to sleep as long as possible.

            They are doing this because they don't want to be around her when she is awake. They know that having her awake is a lot harder than having her while she is sleeping. They are telling you what they KNOW works to have her sleeping as much as possible when she is with them.

            At her age she should have two naps. An hour to an hour and a half in the morning and a two to two and a half hour nap in the afternoon. Even with those naps she should sleep a 10.5-12 hour night.

            Ah, thank you! I was thinking the same thing!
            She is fussy and frentic because she is growing her brain and body with severe sleep deprivation. Adding daily tylenol to the mix is very hard on her little body. She should not be taking tylenol every day. It masks illness and is unnecessary. (I have done home child care for nearly 18 years and I have never once given Tylenol or advil for teething) The fussy inconsolable crying is toxic to her also.

            They are just doing it wrong and you are on the front lines of dealing with their lack of knowledge and selfishness. You have to decide for yourself what you will and won't do for the money.
            Oh how I wish I didn't need the money so badly! There have been so many issues already with this family. Today was another doozie. Now they are wondering why I don't have any more kids besides their dd. I told them that I was interviewing, left it at that. The only thing this family has going for them is the fact that they pay 2 weeks ahead....I pray that soon I will not have to keep a family just b/c we need the money. Unfortunately, that's just not the case right now.

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            • Mom_of_two
              Daycare.com Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 195

              #21
              UGG!!
              Personally I will not accept families who are not comfortable with ALL of my policies, including nap. I do explain that not napping is not an option (at scheduled times unless younger than 4-5 months when we start to work on it) and I work with the kids (CIO) until they are able to nap as expected. Good luck. Keep us posted!!

              Eta- just caught the part about the leaving items at home. I don't think I could work with this family. we should be allies with our families, not trying to made it hard (them)- those people sound off! Poor kid!

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              • momma4many
                Daycare.com Member
                • May 2011
                • 80

                #22
                Originally posted by Mom_of_two
                UGG!!
                Personally I will not accept families who are not comfortable with ALL of my policies, including nap. I do explain that not napping is not an option (at scheduled times unless younger than 4-5 months when we start to work on it) and I work with the kids (CIO) until they are able to nap as expected. Good luck. Keep us posted!!

                Eta- just caught the part about the leaving items at home. I don't think I could work with this family. we should be allies with our families, not trying to made it hard (them)- those people sound off! Poor kid!
                Yes, every day I am seeing more and more that is just "off", but I've decided that I am just going to do my thing and let them leave if they don't like it. I told dcm this morning that she and dcd need to read over the hand book again since they have had a new issue every day and I also am getting conflicting info from both of them. I told her that the way I do things is very clearly spelled out in the hand book and I am not willing to change things. She did say that dcg loves it here and claps her hands every time they pull in the driveway, but that they were not happy with the fact that she screams and cries for me the whole way home I just said, "Glad she likes it here" with a smile. I think they just have to say something negative or semi negative every day. It's like a compulsion, they can't help themselves....

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                • daycare
                  Advanced Daycare.com *********
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 16259

                  #23
                  Originally posted by momma4many
                  Yes, every day I am seeing more and more that is just "off", but I've decided that I am just going to do my thing and let them leave if they don't like it. I told dcm this morning that she and dcd need to read over the hand book again since they have had a new issue every day and I also am getting conflicting info from both of them. I told her that the way I do things is very clearly spelled out in the hand book and I am not willing to change things. She did say that dcg loves it here and claps her hands every time they pull in the driveway, but that they were not happy with the fact that she screams and cries for me the whole way home I just said, "Glad she likes it here" with a smile. I think they just have to say something negative or semi negative every day. It's like a compulsion, they can't help themselves....
                  sorry I never got you that PM it slipped my mind...here is something that I have put into my PHB. SOme from medical website and some from people on here... a mix of words..



                  Napping Policy:

                  Crucial physical and mental development occurs in early childhood, and naps provide much-needed downtime for growth and rejuvenation. Naps also help keep kids from becoming overtired, which not only takes a toll on their moods but may also make it harder for them to fall asleep at night. Not to mention that it is a major requirement for good health.

                  Please keep in mind that the children have a very busy and active day here so they may require more sleep than you’re used to at home on the weekends. Children under 5 require an average of 12-13 hours of sleep for each 24 hour period. Children need to get enough sleep on a daily basis since sleep deprivation in children manifests as hyperactivity, restlessness, trouble settling and a general lack of control with their emotions.
                  From 1-3:30 all children will be required to set up a mat and nap in the resting area. Unfortunately, our program does not offer services to children who do not nap.

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                  • momma4many
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 80

                    #24
                    Originally posted by daycare
                    sorry I never got you that PM it slipped my mind...here is something that I have put into my PHB. SOme from medical website and some from people on here... a mix of words..



                    Napping Policy:

                    Crucial physical and mental development occurs in early childhood, and naps provide much-needed downtime for growth and rejuvenation. Naps also help keep kids from becoming overtired, which not only takes a toll on their moods but may also make it harder for them to fall asleep at night. Not to mention that it is a major requirement for good health.

                    Please keep in mind that the children have a very busy and active day here so they may require more sleep than you’re used to at home on the weekends. Children under 5 require an average of 12-13 hours of sleep for each 24 hour period. Children need to get enough sleep on a daily basis since sleep deprivation in children manifests as hyperactivity, restlessness, trouble settling and a general lack of control with their emotions.
                    From 1-3:30 all children will be required to set up a mat and nap in the resting area. Unfortunately, our program does not offer services to children who do not nap.
                    That is a great way of wording it! Thanks for sharing. If you don't mind, can I reword that to put in my hand book?

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                    • daycare
                      Advanced Daycare.com *********
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 16259

                      #25
                      Originally posted by momma4many
                      That is a great way of wording it! Thanks for sharing. If you don't mind, can I reword that to put in my hand book?
                      of course...like I said i made mine from online research as well as some others from here that allowed me to use their policy too. I feel for you when you are trying to tell a parent something and they don't want to hear you. IT really ****s...

                      I feel like saying if you don't trust my word and advice for your child than why am I caring for your child again......but I have never and would never...I have no backbone....

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