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  • springv
    Daycare.com Member
    • Sep 2017
    • 468

    #46
    Yes they do @annalee

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    • Unregistered

      #47
      Originally posted by Cat Herder
      Ugh. That sounds awful. Kids stop counting in ratios at 13, here, but must be fingerprinted and have a comprehensive background check.
      Fingerprint a 13yo? What on earth history are they gonna have? Minor records are generally sealed, no?

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      • Cat Herder
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 13744

        #48
        Originally posted by Unregistered
        Fingerprint a 13yo? What on earth history are they gonna have? Minor records are generally sealed, no?
        Not during a comprehensive background check for childcare. There are 13 years old's with multiple felonies around here, already.

        It will just come back saying "Not cleared" and automatically updates if anything changes before it expires. It won't say why although as the parent you would generally already know.

        Last edited by Cat Herder; 09-01-2020, 10:42 AM.
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        • Baby Beluga
          Daycare.com Member
          • Aug 2014
          • 3891

          #49
          Originally posted by Cat Herder
          Interesting. What is the name of it?
          I have the same ability, a wyze cam.

          I can pull it up on my phone, zoom in, and talk to the kids through it. With an SD card it records for around 5 days. Might be 7. And you can program it to turn off/on and record during certain times. Once there is no room left on the SD card, it just records over the oldest material. Within that time if there is anything concerning I can record a clip of whatever the incident was and save it in an album, email it, text it, etc.

          And yes, it works wonders when using the bathroom! No one is unattended or unheard.

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          • Cat Herder
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 13744

            #50
            Originally posted by Baby Beluga
            I have the same ability, a wyze cam.

            I can pull it up on my phone, zoom in, and talk to the kids through it. With an SD card it records for around 5 days. Might be 7. And you can program it to turn off/on and record during certain times. Once there is no room left on the SD card, it just records over the oldest material. Within that time if there is anything concerning I can record a clip of whatever the incident was and save it in an album, email it, text it, etc.

            And yes, it works wonders when using the bathroom! No one is unattended or unheard.
            My concern is they did not stop at sight and sound, they made it impossible. "hear and see the children at all times, and able to respond promptly to the needs and actions of the children being supervised"

            They did not define promptly, of course.
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            • Baby Beluga
              Daycare.com Member
              • Aug 2014
              • 3891

              #51
              Originally posted by Cat Herder
              My concern is they did not stop at sight and sound, they made it impossible. "hear and see the children at all times, and able to respond promptly to the needs and actions of the children being supervised"

              They did not define promptly, of course.
              Well, bummer.

              You can certainly hear and see at all times with a camera. But if a provider is in the restroom in the middle of whatever, they are not going to be able to respond promptly, pending the definition of promptly. Quickly, of course! I think we all know how to have lightening fast restroom breaks ::

              Has any asked their licensor what the solution to this is? I am curious. Do they skirt around the question?

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              • Cat Herder
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 13744

                #52
                Originally posted by Baby Beluga
                Well, bummer.

                You can certainly hear and see at all times with a camera. But if a provider is in the restroom in the middle of whatever, they are not going to be able to respond promptly, pending the definition of promptly. Quickly, of course! I think we all know how to have lightening fast restroom breaks ::

                Has any asked their licensor what the solution to this is? I am curious. Do they skirt around the question?
                Crickets. And a lot of I don't knows. Per usual. We have 30 days to comply. They have no time table to set guidance. It took over 8 months last time.
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                • Alwaysgreener
                  Home Child Care Provider
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 2520

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Cat Herder
                  Crickets. And a lot of I don't knows. Per usual. We have 30 days to comply. They have no time table to set guidance. It took over 8 months last time.
                  That must be so frustrating for you. We just got our new rules last December. I had heard about the rules for over a year before and started to implement them, then found out that they were not ineffect yet. (which for some of the rules, I would have been in the wrong if I had implemented them.)
                  Then when they went into effect, I got an email 10 days before. We got the rule book a month (but the technical is not upto date) before I took the training course, 3 months after they went into effect.
                  Then the pamedemic hit and I shelved updating my e plan. Most of our changes were simple expect the e plan. I rushed to get it done before my inspection last month and I was told that it needed improvement. Then he told me that I had another year to get it done due to the pandemic, lucky me because if they had not given me an extension he would have wrote me up for it.

                  I am in agreement with most of the rules, expect I find doing the e plan to be difficult since I have never had training on what to do for a man made threat or experienced the after facts of a natural disaster.
                  Although today was interesting in itself. (We had an armed suspect less than a mile away with a road block at the end of our road, I had DCD come another route to my home to get the kids)
                  I do have tighter rules on use of a pack and play, which is a good thing that this board had talked me into switching to portable cribs before I knew about the rules on PNP.


                  Anyway, I would think you could use the camera microphone to respond promptly to the kids.
                  "Jimmy put Suize down" "Mikey I know you like it, but please stop tasting everything!"

                  Or back to my random thought list...

                  How to respond promptly while still on the toilet??

                  1. A robot with a monitor that shows your face
                  2. Service Dog with CPR/1st aid training
                  3. Remote control car instead of a robot
                  4. Movie magic
                  5. A stunt double

                  Okay that is all I got for now...

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                  • Alwaysgreener
                    Home Child Care Provider
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 2520

                    #54
                    A note from your doctor saying that your body needs to eliminate every couple of hours in private. Lol

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                    • Sunshine69
                      New Daycare.com Member
                      • Jan 2020
                      • 182

                      #55
                      My regs specifically say that video monitoring is not an acceptable form of supervision.

                      We can only use monitors for supervision while kids are asleep and still must physically check on them every 15 minutes. We cannot leave the floor that the children are sleeping on so there’s no running upstairs to use the bathroom even while all the kids nap.

                      I was told by one of my licensors that if they arrived and I was in the bathroom with the door closed, they could violate me. Luckily, we have to keep the entrance doors locked so it’s not like they are gonna walk in and catch a provider using the bathroom. Just make sure the door is answered quickly when they knock though.

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                      • Alwaysgreener
                        Home Child Care Provider
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 2520

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Cat Herder
                        At least one Staff person with a satisfactory Comprehensive Records Check Determination shall supervise Children at all times appropriate to the individual age, needs and capabilities of each child.

                        Such supervision must include, but not be limited to, indoor and outdoor activities, mealtimes, naptime, transportation, field trips, and transitions between activities.

                        "Supervision" means Staff members are providing watchful oversight to the children, volunteers and Students-in-Training.

                        The person(s) supervising in the child care area must be alert, positioned to maximize their ability to hear and see the children at all times, and able to respond promptly to the needs and actions of the children being supervised, as well as the actions of the volunteers and Students-in-Training, and provide timely attention to the children's actions and needs.

                        Staff shall be attentive and participating with all children during mealtimes and shall be seated within an arm’s length away from children thirty-six (36) months of age and younger.

                        Plans shall be made to obtain additional Staff help in cases of emergencies.
                        I was thinking about you the other day, when the baby I have in care woke while the kids were eating lunch and I had to feed her a bottle, I thought hmm "how is CH going to feed a bottle and eat with the kids at the same time?"

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                        • Cat Herder
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 13744

                          #57
                          Originally posted by 284878
                          I was thinking about you the other day, when the baby I have in care woke while the kids were eating lunch and I had to feed her a bottle, I thought hmm "how is CH going to feed a bottle and eat with the kids at the same time?"
                          Apparently, I am not.

                          If tested, I would just move everyone's plates to the center of the table, scoot back their chairs then grab baby. :confused:

                          Generally, I would have had little one settled in in preparation for lunch but they sure don't seem to give us any wiggle room.

                          I would love to see any one of them follow their own regs. I know they can't.
                          - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                          • AmyKidsCo
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 3786

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Cat Herder
                            "Food for infants or children less than one (1) year of age shall be cut into pieces one-quarter inch or smaller and food for toddlers shall be cut into pieces one-half inch or smaller to prevent choking." - I do have one who will go ballistic if I cut his apples, pears or bananas.
                            THIS is why we have 3 year olds who don't chew their food and don't know how to take a bite out of anything!

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                            • Cat Herder
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 13744

                              #59
                              Originally posted by AmyKidsCo
                              THIS is why we have 3 year olds who don't chew their food and don't know how to take a bite out of anything!
                              The 1/2 inch rule is for 3 and under.
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                              • coloradoprovider
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Sep 2016
                                • 109

                                #60
                                Originally posted by PB&J
                                Oh my gosh, ya got me there!! I never thought so many things have to be spelled out to so many people!

                                I’ve been thinking about that lunch rule in particular though: wouldn’t you be able to respond more quickly if you were already on your feet and circulating??!
                                Yes! If I was sitting at their table (kid size) - it would take longer to respond that if I was standing. I won't fit at their table anyway! I guess magic shrinking pills are necessary to fit!

                                Just another example of insanity!

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