New Reg: Let's Discuss

[Annalee]

I don't know all the answers, I do know that they don't care how if effects us. That is perfectly clear.

Little of it benefits kids or families, either. Well, unless your family has the biting/destructive kid and you don't want to pay for your own childcare, I suppose. I refuse to play that game, though. I have already paid my dues.

[Unregistered]

Dumbest rule EVER

I have 4 kids agree 13-18. ALL my kids would count toward ratio though they are all capable of doing babysitting on their own! Lol It used to be kids under age 12 (except when in school). Therefore, as exempt, I can't watch ANY kids 'technically' and as licensed I could watch only 4! I could watch 4+2 school agers back in the day.

Being in child care is TOO difficult. I told licensing board that beer rules are so stupid that technically every single parent that has four children and takes a child from school for a couple hours is basically breaking the rules. I ask her what the real rules are for Rideshare as far as parents who have 4 kids taking home 3 kids say from after school band practice. " well technically if you're not a licensed daycare, you're not supposed to be watching kids at all in those circumstances" most parents of older kids who need rides, are not going to be paying child care services, you know that one of those band parents are carpooling and everybody kind of switches off. I could not believe that they consider this actually child care. Really really stupid. Furthermore, I cannot believe that they actually consider 13 year olds on up to at least age 18, to be unable to entertain themselves or help out with the daycare kids or to do anything. They make it sound like they're just babies. Ridiculous

[Sunshine69]

Enough with the ridiculous regulations already!

I wish the folks who come up with these ideas would spend just one whole day providing childcare while implementing the regulations they come up with.

I haven’t seen anything in my state yet like the new regs OP posted but I’m sure if they’re starting somewhere it’s just a matter of time.

I love the “go to” answers and the expressions on the licensors faces when I ask for clarification on some rules. The way the supervision rules are written, they don’t allow for a caregiver to use the bathroom, ever. C’mon people, you gotta know we have to be allowed to use the bathroom. They’re answer is “It’s up to you to figure out how to make it work”. The equivalent of putting their hands over their ears and singing “La La La La La La”. It’s like I’m either supposed to hire another person and pay them minimum wage (more than I make in this business) should I need to use the bathroom so I can stay within the supervision ratio at any given time of the day. Or I can take a crowd of kids into the bathroom with me so I can supervise them at the same time? I don’t want my child observing their caregiver in the bathroom. Sounds like criminal charges to me.

We must have a working monitor on in any room children sleep in, check on them every 15 minutes and leave the door between rooms open. Fire code says to close the doors. My babies who require 2 naps a day sleep in a room next to the daycare playroom. I can hear the sleeping babies better without the monitor amplifying the noise from the older kids playing outside the babies room. But nope, not allowed to use my common sense and judgement as an experienced parent. Gotta follow rules that make no sense.

I’m thinking the proposed regulation of having to sit within arm’s reach at meals coincides with the family-style meals the food program had been promoting before Coronavirus. Makes no sense with little ones. I hardly have time to sit when I make dinner for adult guests and they are self-sufficient. I’m not a fan of family-style meals for daycare. Having my own child with severe food allergies, it’s too easy for another child to cause cross-contamination of a dish by accidentally using their own utensils for serving instead of the serving utensils.

It’s a shame the actual caregivers aren’t consulted on their opinions of appropriate regulations.

[springv]

Just for curiosity, are parents allowed to view the regulations that are set by childcare licensing or is it for providers and employees only?

[Cat Herder]

Just for curiosity, are parents allowed to view the regulations that are set by childcare licensing or is it for providers and employees only?

I give all the links to all the parents and anyone who will listen. I also publish them regularly so they know the bullspit we have to deal with.

http://www.decal.ga.gov/documents/attachments/Notice_FCCLH.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0qKooswRmMHt4fZtyD_uKyTNg1vr2wk_gHkGQmeIIRCnyofbIkdyJ74Ig

[Cat Herder]

I have managed to solve most of the feeding issues but cannot for the life of me figure out a plan for taking toddlers to the bathroom without having to drag infants there, too. "Sight and Sound" + "at all times".

I don't think I can afford to add a half bath after I just sunk almost 5k into the QRIS tuition/upgrades. I have not made that back yet. That is the only solution I can see. Surely I am missing something?


Help

Suggestions?

[Annalee]

I have managed to solve most of the feeding issues but cannot for the life of me figure out a plan for taking toddlers to the bathroom without having to drag infants there, too. "Sight and Sound" + "at all times".

I don't think I can afford to add a half bath after I just sunk almost 5k into the QRIS tuition/upgrades. I have not made that back yet. That is the only solution I can see. Surely I am missing something?

Help

Suggestions?

Is your bathroom where you could cut the door high enough where you could see over but still be where you could see the kids and latch the top part back during daycare time. Just a thought....

[Alwaysgreener]

I have managed to solve most of the feeding issues but cannot for the life of me figure out a plan for taking toddlers to the bathroom without having to drag infants there, too. "Sight and Sound" + "at all times".

I don't think I can afford to add a half bath after I just sunk almost 5k into the QRIS tuition/upgrades. I have not made that back yet. That is the only solution I can see. Surely I am missing something?


Help

Suggestions?

Okay so the rule says "The person(s) supervising in the child care area must be alert, positioned to maximize their ability to hear and see the children at all times, and able to respond promptly to the needs and actions of the children being supervised, as well as the actions of the volunteers and Students-in-Training, and provide timely attention to the children's actions and needs."

1. Wear depends
2. Use a camera and monitor with a microphone
3. Train them to sit outside the door
4. install a two way mirror

That's all I got for now.

[Cat Herder]

Is your bathroom where you could cut the door high enough where you could see over but still be where you could see the kids and latch the top part back during daycare time. Just a thought....

It is a guest bath across from the guest room and my husbands office. I don't think that would go over well. ::

Okay so the rule says "The person(s) supervising in the child care area must be alert, positioned to maximize their ability to hear and see the children at all times, and able to respond promptly to the needs and actions of the children being supervised, as well as the actions of the volunteers and Students-in-Training, and provide timely attention to the children's actions and needs."

1. Wear depends
2. Use a camera and monitor with a microphone
3. Train them to sit outside the door
4. install a two way mirror

That's all I got for now.

:::::: I do have a camera in there, the monitor is in the kitchen for when I am cooking. No sound, though. :dislike: You could be on to something, though. Ring. Nest. Audio/video on my phone??? I will ask my inspector if that counts.

[Cat Herder]

I have 4 kids agree 13-18. ALL my kids would count toward ratio though they are all capable of doing babysitting on their own! Lol It used to be kids under age 12 (except when in school). Therefore, as exempt, I can't watch ANY kids 'technically' and as licensed I could watch only 4! I could watch 4+2 school agers back in the day.

Being in child care is TOO difficult. I told licensing board that beer rules are so stupid that technically every single parent that has four children and takes a child from school for a couple hours is basically breaking the rules. I ask her what the real rules are for Rideshare as far as parents who have 4 kids taking home 3 kids say from after school band practice. " well technically if you're not a licensed daycare, you're not supposed to be watching kids at all in those circumstances" most parents of older kids who need rides, are not going to be paying child care services, you know that one of those band parents are carpooling and everybody kind of switches off. I could not believe that they consider this actually child care. Really really stupid. Furthermore, I cannot believe that they actually consider 13 year olds on up to at least age 18, to be unable to entertain themselves or help out with the daycare kids or to do anything. They make it sound like they're just babies. Ridiculous

Ugh. That sounds awful. Kids stop counting in ratios at 13, here, but must be fingerprinted and have a comprehensive background check.

[Annalee]

Other than put in a porta-potty or let the kids wear pull-ups all day; I got nothing!::::

I closed yesterday and spent the day de-qris-assessing my daycare room. My dumpster is full of materials and little signs that were hung up that I used to make sure I received credit for "everything" as I doubted my assessor's perception more times than not.

Got a little more to do today, but back to the "welcoming/engaging/non-counting items/fun-looking/etc".

While there are some issues going on within the state right now, the FCCERS-R guidelines are GONE! happyface

[Cat Herder]

Other than put in a porta-potty or let the kids wear pull-ups all day; I got nothing!::::

I closed yesterday and spent the day de-qris-assessing my daycare room. My dumpster is full of materials and little signs that were hung up that I used to make sure I received credit for "everything" as I doubted my assessor's perception more times than not.

Got a little more to do today, but back to the "welcoming/engaging/non-counting items/fun-looking/etc".

While there are some issues going on within the state right now, the FCCERS-R guidelines are GONE! happyface

Nice happyfacehappyface Congrats! I know you will enjoy it so much more, now.

[Alwaysgreener]

It is a guest bath across from the guest room and my husbands office. I don't think that would go over well. ::



:::::: I do have a camera in there, the monitor is in the kitchen for when I am cooking. No sound, though. :dislike: You could be on to something, though. Ring. Nest. Audio/video on my phone??? I will ask my inspector if that counts.

I have a camera with an app on my phone/tablet. The app allows you to zoom in, move the camera and talk to the kids.

[Cat Herder]

I have a camera with an app on my phone/tablet. The app allows you to zoom in, move the camera and talk to the kids.

Interesting. What is the name of it?

[Annalee]

Catherder, maybe you could add on your ads "come to CH daycare where your child is NEVER left alone; even while using the bathroom". ::::

The state regs are so "out-there". They need to at least have providers look at them before enforcing them:confused: