Payment During Coronavirus

[CountryRoads]

I am so sorry. :hug: Ours still only has the "no more than 10 people" rule. What reason did he give for the change today?

We've been getting more and more cases the past couple weeks. It's not just daycares that have to close, but also all public spaces.

[Annalee]

I am remaining open.

Parents who are quarantined or decided to NOT have their child attend had two options.

-Terminate contract, pay final tuition bill
-Pay 1/2 rate for the duration of the pandemic.

I may be the odd provider out, but I disagree with closing AND charging 100% tuition. If the parent is working/working from home they may be paying double for care. If they aren't working they may/may not be being paid. I also don't incur 100% of costs when the kids are (all) absent. I would meet them halfway at 50%.

All of our centers are shut down and I am almost full but with essential personnel. I could replace, they even increased my license, but decided not to for the increased risk with more children present.

I have a child in private school and we are paying FULL tuition, the teachers are being paid 1/2. IMHO they aren't even incurring their regular expenses as they aren't paying their staff full wages. :confused:

I have 4-6 months in savings, (depending on expenses/taxes), both personal and business so I'm trying to hold out as long as possible with a full roster until I have to draw on that.

My parents are all working from home or within the hospital, or a teacher who is getting paid. I plan to charge if the state makes me close. I'm only having 4-5 per day since this started.

[Cat Herder]

We've been getting more and more cases the past couple weeks. It's not just daycares that have to close, but also all public spaces.

Got it. We do, too. 2683 with 83 dead, so far. They are not going to close daycares, though. Well, not family providers, anyway. We can only keep 6 kids regardless so it had virtually no effect on us unless we chose to close or had several family members living in our homes.

The "10 per contained room rule" made many centers close. They are forcing them to pay the Pre-K teachers to stay home and also provide care for those same kids in the regular daycare for up to 6.5 hours per day if their parents are working. The centers get to keep the subsidy funds to cover those pre-k teachers and closed classrooms but not the teachers they are having to pay to watch the pre-k kids, now, or the paying kids they are forcing out. Many are reporting a loss of 60-70% of paid enrollment.

This is actually hitting the centers here much worse than private providers now. And they extended it until April 30th. I am really shocked by that. I expected there to more resources for centers since they provide so many jobs. Their employees are eligible for unemployment (if they made enough last year) but to my knowledge, the owners are not. :confused:

[Meeko]

Daycare providers that are FORCED to close by licensing ARE included in the relief package and are able to claim unemployment......as long as you can prove income and loss of it. So a tax return and a letter from your state licensing office telling you to close, would work.

If you CHOOSE to close, you are probably not eligible.

[Cat Herder]

If you CHOOSE to close, you are probably not eligible.

That is my understanding as well. Most states declared us essential.

I have been looking at Facebook posts of these news stations and the biased reporting bashing providers that must still charge clients while closed, then also bashing us as money-grubbing if we stay open. Which is it? Will they only be happy if we all just start working for free? Unbelievable.

example: https://upnorthlive.com/news/local/t...rKxkOYbsK_-h10

[MomBoss]

Hopefully your provider talks to other providers.

I know after this is said and done, the first question of parents calling for care will be why they left their previous provider.

Attitude about this situation will be the deciding factor for me and your last sentence says alot about how much you care about and/or respect the person caring for your child(ren).

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/child...b6eab77944237a

I agree with this. I had 4 out of 5 families leave.
#1- Left because they are a teacher and are working from home and only needed care until the end of the school uear. So I understand.
#2- Part time child, keeping home due to childs autoimmune disease. Still paying full tuition. Parent is getting unemployment.
#3- Had to pull child because parent cant afford to hold the spot. Self employed, no unemployment. Want to re enroll if i have openings once this is all over. So I understand and will let them.
#4- part time child. Keeping home do to working from home. Paying full price (for now). Only needed care until the end of school year, so we will see...

Between the 1 kid actually attending and the 2 part times still paying, i cant pay all my bills. I need this childcare grant to come through!

[Annalee]

I am still open and considered essential even after the shelter-in-place for our state yesterday, but I did work with licensing developing a plan, then talk with attending children and clarified days/times each would be attending and will now be closing early to limit exposure/contact.

I have now placed it back on my clients where if they do not comply, then the only alternative is to CLOSE. Hopefully, this whole thing will end soon because each day seems to bring something new.

[lblanke]

Guidance in Tennessee is that self-employed will be eligible for panedemic unemployment.

https://www.tn.gov/workforce/covid-19/faq.html?fbclid=IwAR2gxaAbBvD08tMiucQjOeovjC7HZ2XM4RdI3tlDxjdZnSOi6jXl25tQprI

[Pestle]

The mayor just pulled the trigger--I'm closed as of this Saturday. I've sent out a message to my families that I'll be charging partial tuition. I only have two enrolled families right now so I'm dependent upon my husband's income; my mother's job is secure right now (medical coding!) and my MIL has a federal pension, so we'll tap them if my husband's job is affected. Right now, his job is in high demand--he's working with longhaul truckers, and some of the loads are FEMA supplies. Best case scenario, our income will only be minimally disrupted.

[Ac114]

Those providers in those states are not eligible for unemployment benefits. That is where the issue lies for so many of these providers.

Many would choose to stay open but they aren't allowed.

I don't see them charging full tuition as the wrong thing to do.

I am one of those providers! Can’t claim unemployment, been closed for 2 weeks and have 4 more to go...for now. I am the only one working in my family. My MIL is kindly helping us with groceries and we have a small emergency fund but that will be gone by next month.

[Unregistered]

Hopefully your provider talks to other providers.

I know after this is said and done, the first question of parents calling for care will be why they left their previous provider.

Attitude about this situation will be the deciding factor for me and your last sentence says alot about how much you care about and/or respect the person caring for your child(ren).

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/child...b6eab77944237a

Why? So my child is “black balled”? A sentence like that shows how it’s only a business and not really for the kids. I see it as a business too, you provide a service, I pay you. I don’t have to like you, respect you, but you will treat my child right, based on state guidelines.

A provider like you, I would tell you and your business to shove that contact up your ass. Another daycare will take my child in...money talks.

[Josiegirl]

Why? So my child is “black balled”? A sentence like that shows how it’s only a business and not really for the kids. I see it as a business too, you provide a service, I pay you. I don’t have to like you, respect you, but you will treat my child right, based on state guidelines.

A provider like you, I would tell you and your business to shove that contact up your ass. Another daycare will take my child in...money talks.

And that other daycare would be so lucky to have you.

[Josiegirl]

I have a question:
If a provider only has a very small percentage of their regular group of children and therefore not earning nearly as much as before to live on and pay bills, do they have any option to file for partial unemployment?

Just curious.

[Cat Herder]

I have a question:
If a provider only has a very small percentage of their regular group of children and therefore not earning nearly as much as before to live on and pay bills, do they have any option to file for partial unemployment?

Just curious.

My understanding is that they can earn up to $300 per week without interfering with full benefits.

I don't know anyone who was approved and actually receieving benefits, though. :confused:

[Lil_Diddle]

My understanding is that they can earn up to $300 per week without interfering with full benefits.

I don't know anyone who was approved and actually receieving benefits, though. :confused:

I was just approved for unemployment under the PUA just today, I still need to file some forms, I’m not sure how any of it works yet. My income was cut to 1/4 of what it used to be not enough to get by.